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    Sometime, best of 5 games would be absolutely useless if played vs very bad player... It may be good to have it in the finals but it has the inconvenient that it can be very frustrating to win the first 2 games and then lose the 3 other which must be very rare. 3 is better because if it's 1-1, they can give what the have on the last game and that become a great match.
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    Default Best of 5 x 15 points please!

    Haven't read through the whole thread but I find the most feasible compromise is a best of 5 x 15 points, using the rally point scoring system. Firstly, there are more natural ad breaks for TV to pay their bills (what the BWF wanted). From a player's perspective, it becomes not just a test of skill and power but also of physical and mental endurance, so a more well rounded player should deserve to win.

    Say even in a match lasting just 3 games, the winner has to secure 45 points, which is not much different from the 42 you require in the current scoring system. Time span is not much different plus the BWF gets its extra TV breaks.

    I'd like to see matches last all 5 games and let attrition take over. Never will the term "only the fittest survive" ring more true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    Haven't read through the whole thread but I find the most feasible compromise is a best of 5 x 15 points, using the rally point scoring system. Firstly, there are more natural ad breaks for TV to pay their bills (what the BWF wanted). From a player's perspective, it becomes not just a test of skill and power but also of physical and mental endurance, so a more well rounded player should deserve to win.

    Say even in a match lasting just 3 games, the winner has to secure 45 points, which is not much different from the 42 you require in the current scoring system. Time span is not much different plus the BWF gets its extra TV breaks.

    I'd like to see matches last all 5 games and let attrition take over. Never will the term "only the fittest survive" ring more true.
    This may be true about mental endurance but like you said the points and time span are about the same. Then can I know how it would be that you need more physical endurance to play about the same points and about the same time span? Plus the players will get to rest up more with the breaks.

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    Whoops! Sorry my mistake. I forgot the part about you saying if it only took 3 games!

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    I don't see why we have to change the number of points and the number of points every three years or so 3x21 is probably enough however if you were to change it to 5x15 then it would be fine however where do you have a mid game interval or do you get rid of that
    I still prefer 3x21

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    I don't see why we have to change the number of points and the number of points every three years or so 3x21 is probably enough however if you were to change it to 5x15 then it would be fine however where do you have a mid game interval or do you get rid of that
    I still prefer 3x21
    Yes I would have an interval after 8 points.

    For the reasons I have stated, I think the 5 x 15 format makes the most sense if there was to be a change. We have to accept the game and the economics governing it is constantly evolving. In an era where TV money can push the game ahead, the game has to adapt. And one of the ways of doing it is by modifying the scoring. Sure not everyone is going to be happy; just think back to the near riots when it changed from the OSS to the 21 pt NSS. Give people time and they get used to what is the current standard.

    That said, if the BWF lays a huge egg, which they are more than capable of doing, the opportunity to advance the game with media exposure will pass by and leave badminton a fringe international sport.

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    i feel that the current system of 3 games isnt enough
    Also is too short T.T
    5 games will allow a bigger margin of error for mistakes and also allow comebacks. Stamina should be factored in so strategy will be able to play a bigger part

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    I don't like the idea of trying to turn badminton into something like tennis(tons of sets/games with very few rallies per game/set).

    WTH is wrong with tennis? Winning 4 shots then you are allowed to rest for more than 2 mins(the best part is the players get to sit on nice chairs and enjoy the sun during intervals)? It's no wonder they can play the game for 5 hours or go on and on till forever.

    So cutting the rallies played in a games and increase the match plays certainly won't help(coz you get more rest). If you must make the stamina of players a big factor in the game, make it like 25 or 30 points per match for 3 games.
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    anyone for 7 sets each up to eleven points
    First to 4 sets (minimum points for win 44) breaks of 1 minute between sets with every two sets a two minute break aloows for combacks and tv breaks

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    What do you guys think ?

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    Best of5 games ---21 point system ! That would determine the Men from the Boys

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    How about Volleyball scoring system, but with few changes. It's something like best out of 5 but the 5th set is 15 points unlike the rest that are 25 points. Nonetheless, I like the current scoring system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbad View Post
    Yes I would have an interval after 8 points.

    For the reasons I have stated, I think the 5 x 15 format makes the most sense if there was to be a change. We have to accept the game and the economics governing it is constantly evolving. In an era where TV money can push the game ahead, the game has to adapt. And one of the ways of doing it is by modifying the scoring. Sure not everyone is going to be happy; just think back to the near riots when it changed from the OSS to the 21 pt NSS. Give people time and they get used to what is the current standard.

    That said, if the BWF lays a huge egg, which they are more than capable of doing, the opportunity to advance the game with media exposure will pass by and leave badminton a fringe international sport.
    I would support a 5 game match on this. But I also think 5 games gives more combinations to make a match more interesting. 2 games down and you think the game is over but then there is an incredible comeback. Sounds more interesting than 1 game down and coming to win 1-3. Such comebacks are good for reporting and generating interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majyun View Post
    I don't like the idea of trying to turn badminton into something like tennis(tons of sets/games with very few rallies per game/set).

    WTH is wrong with tennis? Winning 4 shots then you are allowed to rest for more than 2 mins(the best part is the players get to sit on nice chairs and enjoy the sun during intervals)? It's no wonder they can play the game for 5 hours or go on and on till forever.

    So cutting the rallies played in a games and increase the match plays certainly won't help(coz you get more rest). If you must make the stamina of players a big factor in the game, make it like 25 or 30 points per match for 3 games.
    I don't think you really have to worry about badminton turning much more like tennis because it wouldn't be badminton anymore . Badminton does not have nowhere near the rest intervals like tennis. We also do not get as much serve opportunities as tennis. Mess up a serve in tennis? No problem bounce the ball for a few seconds walk around and serve again. If the 15 X 5 system is adopted 15 rallies to win is much more than 4 shots in tennis (if that is the case to win a set). So I don't think there really is a trend toward lesser rallies per set.

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    3X21 for singles.
    5X21 for doubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majyun View Post
    I don't like the idea of trying to turn badminton into something like tennis(tons of sets/games with very few rallies per game/set).

    WTH is wrong with tennis? Winning 4 shots then you are allowed to rest for more than 2 mins(the best part is the players get to sit on nice chairs and enjoy the sun during intervals)? It's no wonder they can play the game for 5 hours or go on and on till forever.

    So cutting the rallies played in a games and increase the match plays certainly won't help(coz you get more rest). If you must make the stamina of players a big factor in the game, make it like 25 or 30 points per match for 3 games.
    The 2 minutes interval is not just sitting and enjoying the sun. That is for TV commercial. When not go to commercial, the fans can see Maria Sharapova walking over the comfy chair in her tight dress with the Nike swoosh on it, wiping her sweat, and drinking her Gatorade bottle. Those are the TV moments that advertisers dream for.

    For us baddy fans, wouldn't you like to see some close up shot of Reiko, Wang Lin, or whoever you favorite players are? How much (more) Li Ning would pay for wearing their logo? Which company will supply the drink?

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    Best of 3.

    ..........unless you've lost the first 2 of course.

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