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    I think I can answer the 'Professional' one. Professional would be playing for money? I think..

    The rest.. usually depends on opinion..? Haha. Most usually have different methods of judging.

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    Beginner - Does not know how to hold the racquet correctly.

    Intermediate - Hold's the racquet correctly and have some form of basic footwork with some consistent basic shots such as lobs, drops and smashes eg around 60% of the shots produced always go to the intended directions

    Advanced - Those that have mastered some of the basic shots and improvised on it. tend to be much better than intermediates on difficult shots such as back hand, chops and smashes(eg might be jump smashes). They are also the ones that usually reach the quarters of semis of some good tournaments.

    Professional - Have probably won some titles here and there and probably is a full time badminton player that is dedicated to badminton perfection.

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    Complete beginner: Less than 10 hours court time, no real knowledge of grips etc. Can hit shuttles back over but no/very little control. Due to the lack of skill, I would not introduce a complete beginner to doubles.

    Beginner: Has knowledge of grips and can sometimes apply that knowledge in games ie: using backhand thumb grip for a backhand drive. Can return most shots with a degree of control. I would allow a beginner to play doubles but the result probably wouldn't be too great.

    Intermediate: Applies a variety of grips in games to enable greater control and power over difficult shots. Can return all but the most difficult shots. They play the best shot they can for the majority of situations and use a variety of shots to try and overcome their opponent. They attempt deception but it is often easily read. In doubles, they have spacial awareness of both sides of the court. They move in to positions that are beneficial for themselves and their partner and play shots that are challenging for their opponents to return.

    Advanced: A player who regularly represents their club and has a strong allround game. They are difficult to beat and have a shot for almost all circumstances. The can use slice to deceive the opponent as well as dummying shots before playing a dropshot. They use the court effectively and punish mistakes. In doubles, they (and a partner of a similar level) can split their opponents and open up space to finish the rally. They punish mistakes and very rarely get in their partner's way or make bad mistakes.

    Professional: At least as good as or better than an advanced player. I regard a professional player as someone who is sponsored and/or plays tournaments for money.

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    Wink How Do You Grade Badminton Skills?

    Perhaps a different sort of guide will be of help:

    1. Beginners - One guy's trousers are on the verge of descent... and the other's shoes are about to come off. Beginners have almost no game skills but do know how to hit the shuttle around (and down). Here's another example and yet another example.

    2. Intermediates - Those nearer to the camera are intermediate players having fun against two others who are obviously beginners. Intermediates have good game skills and, when moving around, are aware of player positions, net height and the size of the playing area. Here's another example.

    3. High Intermediates - These are better than Intermediates in that their on-court awareness level and game skills are higher. Here's another example.

    4. Advanced - These players could have made it to the senior national squad in one of the top badminton-playing nations but either lost out to better peers or chose not to pursue such a career. Of course, should they migrate even today to, say, Armenia or Bhutan, they would reign as the national champion for at least a decade. Here's another example.

    5. Professional - These are players that have gained varying but high levels of mastery over both the physical and mental aspects of advanced badminton. Their skills are finely honed and they devise and execute strategies on the move. They can sustain a rally until the perfect opportunity for a kill arises. Here's another example and yet another example.


    Special Categories:

    I. Retards - This group largely comprises idiots who were on holiday when brains were being distributed. The others in this group want us to believe they're having fun. When encountering such individuals, an act of most tender mercy would be 'shoot at sight', preferably with a large-calibre gun. Here's another example and yet another example and yet yet another example.

    II. Pros In The Making - For the most part, these are youngsters determined to make their way up. They have excellent listening skills, possess a willingness to develop strength & stamina, and display a commitment to hard work while still having fun. Here's another example.

    III. Gods - They create magic with empty spaces, a frame, taut strings, a feathered cork and their presence. They are ambassadors for everything that's wonderful about badminton... and then some. Here's another example and yet another example.

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    wait, so Taufik is a God, or just a Professional?
    Or is he The Professional god? =D

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    you guys forgot elite, which is between professional and advanced.

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    Beginner
    Fresh start on badminton, learning how to play badminton (Grip, footwork, hit, reflex initiative, etc). This guy can't do things right yet. Especially when they're fighting with Intermediate or higher level. They don't even stand a chance.

    Intermediate
    Learned how to do things right. Learning more technique, tactics, better and faster footwork, using wrist instead of shoulder, and more experience compared to the beginners. This one is capable in coordinating themselves, and playing good. Capable in fighting advanced, at least giving a fight.

    Advanced
    In this level, I'd say there are certain degree of level. As I believe, those who are in Advanced is capable in putting the ball (Shuttlecock) where they want them. These people is capable in using all the basic available in badminton as part of their technique. Has a lot better footwork, speed, reflexes, tactics, etc. Basically they're on the place where they can enjoy playing badminton compared to Beginner-Intermediate.

    Professional
    Chosen Advanced. Advanced which is spotted by Badminton Scout, have professional Contract, playing for certain club, school, any institute, or countries. This is actually can be called another advanced, and can be defeated by advanced (since I'd say people who's actually good, and not called for International Duty, refusing to join another club, and enjoying leisure playing can still be called Advanced, which is in fact s|he's probably very good).

    Just an opinion xD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jymbalaya View Post
    wait, so Taufik is a God, or just a Professional?
    Or is he The Professional god? =D
    I would say Taufik is good enough to be called both at once .

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    God would have use two racquet to play...

    No need backhand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danstevens View Post
    I would say Taufik is good enough to be called both at once .
    When he's on Fire ~_~.... When he's not... He's suck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SibugiChai View Post
    God would have use two racquet to play...

    No need backhand!
    LOL

    Taufik's backhand is so good, it may as well be a second forehand.

    @K4mu1: But you could say that about anyone.

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    Well... yea xD... lol... But, Taufik rarely reach the point of being on fire. Although I believe he'd be no 1 if he's at least as stable as Lin Dan. Since, he's... unbelieveable when he's on fire xD.

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    Please take the fan commentary elsewhere.
    This thread is not on any particular player.

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    Arrow Basically, we can classify players into 3 categories

    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980 View Post

    I'm a bit confused on the postings on the level of play/players.

    Beginner
    Intermediate
    Advanced
    Professional???

    How do you define each level and know which level you're at?

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    jk1980 ... This might help (based on the criteria used by our club).

    Basically, we can classify players into 3 categories:
    Beginner
    Intermediate
    Advanced


    (1) Beginner:
    A. Skill to perform all strokes required ......... Poor
    B. Knowledge of the Badminton laws .......... Lacking

    (2) Intermediate:
    A. Skill to perform all strokes required ......... Good
    B. Knowledge of the Badminton laws .......... Adequate

    (3) Advanced:
    A. Skill to perform all strokes required ......... Excellent
    B. Knowledge of the Badminton laws .......... Comprehensive

    As for Professionals; If you get paid to play, then you are one.

    Hope you will enjoy your Badminton... regardless of what levels you are at.


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    Often times, u think you've improved considerably... can be considered intermediate....then join a new group of people...all of a sudden feel like degraded back to beginner level...<sigh>

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    My own take on this:

    Beginner: Anything below intermediate

    Entry Intemediate: Able to direct shuttle in any direction from any court position when not under pressure with very good success. Good basic footwork that allows court coverage between all 4 corners. Observes opponent's playing style and starts to form and deploy strategies/tactics against them. Doubles: Understand the formations and movements, and effectively covers for the partner who is taking the shot.

    Entry Advanced: Able to direct shuttle in any direction from any court position even when under pressure with good success. Very good footwork that not only covers the basic 4 corners but is able to adapt the most effective footwork to the appropriate situations. Understands and effectively deploy strategies/tactics against opponents. Doubles: Understands own and opponent's partnership and effectively leverage on the various traits to improve results.

    So beginners are all about strokes, intermediates are about understanding tactics, and advanced players uses tactics effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jk1980 View Post
    Often times, u think you've improved considerably... can be considered intermediate....then join a new group of people...all of a sudden feel like degraded back to beginner level...<sigh>
    Hehe... gone thru so many of such rounds I now consider myself as a beginner all the time. Just slightly better than those who just started holding a racket.

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