06-25-2006, 12:19 AM #239
06-25-2006, 12:45 AM #240Originally Posted by twobeer
Re more 'doubles-like' low and flick-serves being used in singles in the NSS, this has also been the trend in the OSS, particularly in MS. The low and flick-serve in MS was unheard of in the old days. The then experts and world champions would think you were mad serving low in singles then. How things have changed! In WS the low serve is less used because women do not have the strength and athleticlism of men. Instead WS uses more high serves than in MS, but their high serves are not defensive in nature or intent. Do you think Wang Chen's or Roslin's high serves are for defence?
The NSS would not change the importance of the serve except to make it more critical and over time to be a catalyst to better and higher quality serves. In MS the NSS will see various ways to seize the initiative early-we now see low serves and flick-serves combination executed more effectively and the receiver rushing the serve or doing more deception. But by and large the NSS will not result in a 'doubles-type' serve although they look similar. In MS under both the OSS and the NSS the player does not stand at the very front service line to serve, so there is a longer time factor than in doubles. In MS the low serve travels a longer distance.
06-25-2006, 03:50 AM #241Originally Posted by taneepak
06-25-2006, 04:28 PM #242Originally Posted by wwcbro
If BC/BF is a good place to find (correct) information, we are just trying to do our best to provide it.
I (and others BFers included) were taught and trained under 1 concept, while others are disputing the same concept. We learned from reputatble coaches and if there are other lines of thought, it is just good to learn them as well - provided that we find them reasonable and applicable.
06-25-2006, 04:50 PM #243Originally Posted by Winex West Can
If you have gone through the posts, there is somewhere that claimed there is a perfect serve - no matter what you do you won't be able to attack it. The receiver's only option is to lift (if possible to the receiver) and the server will continue with the attack.
In order to continue with the discussion on this topic '21x3: Is is really better to attack' (??), I believe we have to make this point clear - can you attack when serving?
I never heard about the perfect serve. Never heard about attacking serve (or service). All the coaches I had, including Chinese national level coaches always stressed the 'no initiative' situation of the server, therefore the importance of defensive and counter attack skills development to score in 15x3 system.
I am looking to learn more from our illustrious contributors and the sources of their materials.
Still waiting ...
PS: apologies for the bold characters... might be Chris influence
06-25-2006, 05:12 PM #244Originally Posted by taneepak
In 1985, we can see Zhao Jianhua in AE'85, varied his serves effectively against Liem Swie King.
Yang Yang, did also the same in various matches.
Therefore, how old is old?
06-25-2006, 06:43 PM #245Originally Posted by viver
06-25-2006, 07:50 PM #246Originally Posted by Winex West Can
06-25-2006, 07:50 PM #247Originally Posted by Winex West Can
06-26-2006, 12:47 AM #248Originally Posted by viver
I think that if the IBF decide to make it fairer for the server, they should do away with the doubles serve back line, opening up the court just like in singles. That way, you can be sure that the receiver won't be toeing the front line anymore.
06-26-2006, 02:04 AM #249Originally Posted by Winex West Can
06-26-2006, 03:38 AM #250
"...He Was ATTACKING So Much..."
What Lee Chong Wei said when he lost in the rubber game against Lin Dan at the Yonex Chinese Taipei Open 2006" as reported todqy in IBF News.
Unlike in Malaysia where Lin refused the traditional celebrations of the Kuching medal ceremony, this time, he threw his bouquet to the crowd and invited Lee (Chong Wei) to join him on the podium. Lee, accepting his fate in the spirit of sportsmanship, said, “I was planning to play Lin Dan at the net but he was attacking so much that I got very tired towards the end of the match.”
06-26-2006, 07:37 PM #251Originally Posted by viver
06-26-2006, 09:02 PM #252
I so agree with sendoh on IBF, it's not the skills or the game that matters... It's all about TV ratings and the 'excitement' of the game... Somehow sports becomes somewhat of an entertainment circle nowadays...
06-26-2006, 09:36 PM #253Originally Posted by psychict
06-26-2006, 09:54 PM #254
okayy... if you put it that way
06-26-2006, 11:01 PM #255
Haven't been able to watch the match yet. Waiting for a chance to dl it.
Did you have a chance to watch the game? Was Lin Dan using more overhead or underarm attack shots?
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