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    why can't we all just give it a break?
    it doesn't matter who said what and why?

    let them play it out on court, isn't that all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajat_remar View Post
    I've heard her interviews immediately after the match in Hindi and she was by no means being disrespectful to any player she has played....i think its the media who are misinterpreting her views.
    Yes, I agree. There was lots of posts previously about her arrogance but when someone posted the actual video (I think it was cobalt), what she said was the total opposite.

    Anyway coming back to the Oly, WX was running out of gas by the end of the 1st set which made Saina close the gap. I have no doubts she would have won the match if not for the injury given her superior stamina. Anyway it is just my opinion, if anyone does not agree it is fine as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    Saina needs to focus on strategy in countering WYH by outmaneuvering and forcing mistakes. Easier said than done given WYH's advantage in height and reach.

    She should do what LCW did to Chen Long. Perfect strategy was employed by keeping CL guessing on the shot and driving it to the body.

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    One of the more serious and respected, and less sensationalist national papers had this complete report.

    'Miracle win': Saina Nehwal wins bronze medal after opponent pulls out

    The Indian Express
    London, Sat Aug 04 2012

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mi...s-out/983888/0

    Full story:


    Saina Nehwal today created history by becoming the first Indian to win an Olympic Games bronze medal in badminton, though under fortuitous circumstances, as her world number two Chinese opponent retired from the play-off because of a knee injury.

    The 22-year-old Saina was trailing 18-21, 0-1 in the high-voltage bronze medal play-off match when her second seeded opponent Xin Wang retired hurt, giving India an unexpected medal without having to sweat much.

    Saina also became the second Indian woman to win an Olympic medal, after Karnam Malleswari's weightlifting bronze in 2000 Sydney Olympics.

    With the addition of Saina's bronze, India's medal collection in the ongoing Olympics has gone upto three with pistol shooter Vijay Kumar (silver) and seasoned marksman Gagan Narang (bronze) being the other medal winners.

    The packed Wembly arena, which had a seizable chunk of vociferous Indian supporters cheering for Saina, were taken by surprise when the script suddenly changed with Wang getting injured towards the very end of the first game.

    Wang got herself medical attention and even went in for the second game but conceded the match after just one point. A thunderous roar greeted Saina when it was announced that she had won the bronze medal and Wang had retired.

    "I still can't believe that I have won a medal. In badminton, I never believed that India could win a medal because the competition is so tough. It is a dream come true for me," Saina said after the match.

    "I had trained hard and there was a lot of expectation. I initially thought that she was just taking rest as she was tiring, but then I realised she was injured. It's sad that she got injured, but I was confident of beating her as I was coming into rhythm," she said.

    Saina said her defeat against top ranked player Yihan Wang of China yesterday was still rankling her as she had adopted a wrong strategy against her.

    "Today's match was crucial. But I was still thinking about what happened yesterday. But as the game went, I began to play better. I felt that she was tiring and I had my chance," the ace shuttler said.

    Saina, seeded fourth, started off well by taking an early lead but the Chinese clawed back and the score moved neck and neck till 6-6. From then on, the Chinese increased the lead by not allowing Saina to play her natural game.
    Wang took a lead of 16-10 but the Indian again showed her tenacity by reducing the margin and engaging her opponent in long rallies, a tactics which she could not do in the semifinal match.

    The turning point came when the score was 20-18 in the first game. In her bid to finish off the game, Wang leaped into the air and unleashed a blistering smash from the baseline but landed awkwardly and injured her left knee in the process.

    She bandaged her knee and took the court for the second game but conceded after just one point, much to the delight of the Indian spectators and IOA officials who were present at the venue.

    "Today my strategy was to engage her in long rallies and it did work to some extent. Yesterday also we had the same strategy, but it did not work. I should have tried something else and played my own game instead of trying to match her," Saina said.

    "I had never won a match like this before. May be, the medal was written for me. I have always wanted an Olympic medal. I always wanted to see India's national flag going up at the podium," she said. The moment it was known that she was the bronze medal, Saina first waved at her coach P Gopichand, who was sitting on the coach's chair, and then acknowledged the cheers from the spectators, most of whom were Indians.

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    she never said that the chinese are scared of her and blah blah, after wang xin retired from the match saina was rather humble and expressed her sympathy for wang xin and said that she would have rather liked to win the medal by beating wang xin and if the match would have gone in three sets she probably would have beaten wang xin. and those who are showing proofs here should have watched saina's court side interview after the match rather than making stories here. some morons in this forum likes to accuse saina of being arrogant etc. but the thing is she's the one who has always shown the ability to beat the chinese players(does'nt mean that i am being disrespectful to chinese) at the highest level and she's only going to improve from hereon. accusing her of being arrogant will not change the facts and those who just have to say things can post as much as they wan't afterall the forum is not charging you for posting roubish so keep posting crap.. .!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerv2 View Post
    Yes, I agree. There was lots of posts previously about her arrogance but when someone posted the actual video (I think it was cobalt), what she said was the total opposite.

    Anyway coming back to the Oly, WX was running out of gas by the end of the 1st set which made Saina close the gap. I have no doubts she would have won the match if not for the injury given her superior stamina. Anyway it is just my opinion, if anyone does not agree it is fine as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    Saina needs to focus on strategy in countering WYH by outmaneuvering and forcing mistakes. Easier said than done given WYH's advantage in height and reach.

    She should do what LCW did to Chen Long. Perfect strategy was employed by keeping CL guessing on the shot and driving it to the body.
    I agree that she needs to come up with a better strategy against WYH. I dont think her strategy in SF was a failure but she was not able to apply it correctly. During the match, I saw the Saina was trying to keep WYH at the base line all the time. During that process she either committed unforced errors or was not able to hit the lob properly to clear WYH. As we all know how tall WYH is and those not-so-perfect lifts and clears were sitting ducks as WYH picked them for easy smash winners. As the match progressed Saina began to make better lobs but by that time it was too late. So the strategy of keeping WYH at baseline and engaging her in long rallies back fired. There is nothing wrong with strategy but if the execution is not perfect it can fail miserably and that too against a Chinese player it has to be inch perfect.

    Saina needs to add strokes to her repertoire as she does not have the height and strokes needed to beat WYH which SJH and LXR possess. That is one of the reasons they were able to beat WYH.

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    Don't forget a really good player can also change strategy whenever necessary. He/she should be able to size up the situation and respond quickly with a better strategy. The chess game is played out physically on the court and it demands quick thinking and quality execution.

    So with different strong opponents, one should expect to adopt different tactics and strategies to counteract them and it seems SN has still not found the solution against WYH whereas LXR has succeeded many times before.

    As proven in the past a relatively short girl can still be a champion. Size is not everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Don't forget a really good player can also change strategy whenever necessary. He/she should be able to size up the situation and respond quickly with a better strategy. The chess game is played out physically on the court and it demands quick thinking and quality execution.

    So with different strong opponents, one should expect to adopt different tactics and strategies to counteract them and it seems SN has still not found the solution against WYH whereas LXR has succeeded many times before.

    As proven in the past a relatively short girl can still be a champion. Size is not everything.
    LXR trains with WYH almost daily, so she knows her game and weakness in and out. They are also similar in height and reach. So she has an advantage here.

    Anyway SN defeated LX recently, so she could do the same to WHY but she needs to be at her best.

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    It also means WYH knows LXR's game quite well, yet she succumbed so many times. Why?

    SN might have beaten LXR the last time they met, but there is no guarantee that she will win again the next time against the latter who is better at adapting to the changing circumstances/conditions with new tactics and strategies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    It also means WYH knows LXR's game quite well, yet she succumbed so many times. Why?

    SN might have beaten LXR the last time they met, but there is no guarantee that she will win again the next time against the latter who is better at adapting to the changing circumstances/conditions with new tactics and strategies.

    Chinese... I hate referring to them by their country rather than by their names but referring them by their names in one sentence is a bit lengthy process. They all are so good, they deserve to be referred to by their names.

    Ok back to the topic... These Chinese players are hard wired with wide range of strokes, if you wake them up in the middle of the night from sleep and ask them to play a match they will show the same level of play all the time. That's how consistent they are. I don't know how they achieve it.

    On the other hand, SN and rest of the world are not up to that level of consistency. For example, when we saw SN playing INA SS in June and compare it to OG, we can see that there was some difference in her game. What I noticed was that she was not taking the shuttle early like she did in INA SS. And her footwork was a tad bit slower as well.

    During the SF she was completely out of ideas against WYH. She was rather more interested in showing her might to WYH than formulating an alternative strategy. If she wants to be number 1 then she has to beat WYH and LXR. For that she needs to add strokes and develop the capability to adapt according to the situation at hand. Fitness wise she is surprisingly superior even to Chinese.

    I am a big fan of SN. That is why I want to see her to win, be it SS or OG, fair and square on her own strength beating the best of the best in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rahuldarga View Post
    Chinese...

    Ok back to the topic... These Chinese players are hard wired with wide range of strokes, if you wake them up in the middle of the night from sleep and ask them to play a match they will show the same level of play all the time. That's how consistent they are. I don't know how they achieve it.
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    I believe some call it "rote" training, in a negative sense.

    I consider it essential for a player to perfect his strokes through repetition after repetition,
    such that at a split second's command, he could recall and execute the stroke that he wants to use under prevailing circumstances. This requires many hours of monotonous hard work in simulated conditions, yet the player will still feel not wholly satisfied with the outcome.

    It is liken in golf when one has to practise until the swing is "grooved" in.

    I'm sure SN is doing the same thing but not quite there yet compared to the Chinese.

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    Arrow I have told Saina Nehwal herself that she would be World No.1 one day

    Quote Originally Posted by rahuldarga View Post
    Chinese... I hate referring to them by their country rather than by their names but referring them by their names in one sentence is a bit lengthy process. They all are so good, they deserve to be referred to by their names.
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    Agree.

    I too follow players, not countries.

    I have told Saina Nehwal herself that she would be World No.1 one day.

    I am hoping that Saina Nehwal would be World No.1 soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paroxysmal View Post
    Reading her recently released biography
    Marriage - Had a proposal from a well known international boxer from Haryana....
    so arranged marriage ?

    She's Punjabi right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pujuma View Post
    so arranged marriage ?

    She's Punjabi right ?
    No, she is not Punjabi. Actually she is originally from Haryana state and belongs to the Jat community.

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    Default Accolades follows.......

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...w/15561418.cms
    Saina Nehwal on Sunday received a brand new BMW car for winning a bronze medal at the London Olympics from none other than batting legend Sachin Tendulkar, who said that the world is yet to see the best of the star shuttler.

    The felicitation function was organised by vice president of Andhra Badminton Association Chamundeshwari Nath, who honoured the city girl by buying her the luxurious car.

    "I am sure that she (Saina) is happy but not satisfied. We are also not satisfied because we know that you can go to greater heights. You have that ability with Gopi's guidance. There are better days ahead and as a sportsperson, you always try to believe that your best is yet to come," the iconic Indian batsman said at the felicitation function.

    While announcing a BMW car for Saina and a car each for her coach P Gopichand and budding talent PV Sindhu, Sachin said, "I am quite confident that your best is yet to come and you will emerge victorious across the world and that is what we want".

    Heaping praises on Saina, Tendulkar said, "Whatever I have seen of her there is no drama involved, it's just quality badminton and that is what you expect from a sportsperson. After winning (bronze medal) also, she has not got carried away and that's the beauty of being a champion sport person".

    Saina gave India its first-ever medal in badminton at Olympics when her Chinese opponent withdrew from the bronze medal play-off after injuring her knee.

    "This medal means a lot for India, I am sure this medal has not come without dedication, hard work, focus and having a vision," Tendulkar said.

    Congratulating all the medal winners, he said it was "terrific" for India at London. "You all deserve praise and good things that are coming your way," he added.

    Responding to the accolade, Saina said she had waited for her Olympic moment since her childhood days.

    "I dreamt of being a Olympic champion at the age of 9...It is unbelievable to have won the medal. I am so happy. I should thank Gopi sir for making it possible. He really worked hard with me for many years.

    "Myself winning the first medal will really change a lot of things for badminton in India and I am sure we shall have lot more medals in future. I hope badminton becomes one of the most popular games, though may not be like cricket, in our country," Saina said.

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    Wow... Good for her and seems like badminton received so much attention in India lately

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    yeah after Prakash Padukone left playing in early 80s there was a void in Indian badminton... Indians played the game just as a backyard pleasure nothing competitive... Its only with the 2000's that Gopichand emerged his All England titled inspired a few and another crop of players raised their game a notch up.... and look the level seriously seems rising up... India has been in the verge of now taking up the place and replacing one among the Asian Giants aka Indonesia, Malaysia or Thailand just behind CHN,Korea & Japan in the over all rankings including all the types... Indian youngsters are looking good with Saina showing them the path and installing confidence that they can also acheive something big we had another Quarterfinalist P Kashyap in the men's singles... Jayaram almost snatched his place before the Olympics so he has a competition over there too, PV Sindhu is doing great as budding WS, the likes of Saurabh Verma are also looking bright prospects with some imrovement in the doubles India could well be a force to reckon with... This new found self belief which Saina has bought in is definitely going to bring in quite a change and with the accolades and money coming in India wld get a new sport to look at....

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    saina and her coach and pv sindhu got a new car

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