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**vienb** · 05-04-2010, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Robbo77

Yeah CBA had the TOUGHEST B grade I have ever seen!!!

One of the guys that won A doubles came back the next day with a slightly weaker partner in B and did well! We had a few girls in the B grade that could easily have played A grade, if not Open. We had a few singles players that would nearly win A Singles come down to B, and also a few guys like Aaron and Dee who can mix it well enough in A grade come down and slaughter us poor real B graders hehe

I played 8 matches and lost every one of them, which isn't my average result in B grade matches!

Speaking about the French guy, I totally feel for him. Those Nemesis Honky supporters were the most rude ppl I have ever seen. They showed no understanding of sportsmanship at all. Its quite ok to be vocal in supporting your players, but to clap and jeer the opponent when he makes a mistake is totally uncool and they should have been kicked out of the stadium and told to come back when they learn some manners/courtesy.

Whilst I am on another badminton rant, another thing is not cool is when players ignore the umpire at the end of the match = Vickii Hyunh

Nobody really wants to be an umpire and especially when you make an unpopular line call, but hey, this is the job and at the end of the match (AGAIN) it is courtesy to shake the umpire's hand or at least acknowledge their involvement in the match grrrrr

Sounds like someone has a case of the Cranky Old Man idus
Well since you're going to have a whinge .. so am I ...
my gripe is with Mr Tap L.
What's up with the cold shoulder and silent treatment I'm getting from Tap ... I say hi to him, comment on how pretty he looks that day and how lovely he smells .. and how feminine his ass swaggering walk is and pinch him on the bottom in a complimentary way ... and nothing, not a single acknowledgment from him .. justs walk pass and saids hi to everyone else around but not me

You've change Tap ... you're no longer the same Tap I once caringly spread rumours about his sexuality anymore!!!

**Robbo77** · 05-04-2010, 01:04 AM

what's wrong with whinging, its almost as fun as trophy hunting

**vienb** · 05-04-2010, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by Robbo77

what's wrong with whinging, its almost as fun as trophy hunting

You look younger in that photo Anthony

**Robbo77** · 05-04-2010, 02:26 AM

Grrrrrr

I am not that old really! - look here is my very first computer I owned, latest technology - 64kb of RAM, cassette driven wowowow!

Originally Posted by vienb

You look younger in that photo Anthony

**btchia** · 05-04-2010, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Robbo77

Yeah CBA had the TOUGHEST B grade I have ever seen!!!

One of the guys that won A doubles came back the next day with a slightly weaker partner in B and did well! We had a few girls in the B grade that could easily have played A grade, if not Open. We had a few singles players that would nearly win A Singles come down to B, and also a few guys like Aaron and Dee who can mix it well enough in A grade come down and slaughter us poor real B graders hehe

I played 8 matches and lost every one of them, which isn't my average result in B grade matches!

Speaking about the French guy, I totally feel for him. Those Nemesis Honky supporters were the most rude ppl I have ever seen. They showed no understanding of sportsmanship at all. Its quite ok to be vocal in supporting your players, but to clap and jeer the opponent when he makes a mistake is totally uncool and they should have been kicked out of the stadium and told to come back when they learn some manners/courtesy.

Whilst I am on another badminton rant, another thing is not cool is when players ignore the umpire at the end of the match = Vickii Hyunh

Nobody really wants to be an umpire and especially when you make an unpopular line call, but hey, this is the job and at the end of the match (AGAIN) it is courtesy to shake the umpire's hand or at least acknowledge their involvement in the match grrrrr

I just happened to come across this threads, i was there watching the game well, from my point of view i dont see any reason why you said they got no sportmanship at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2B7...eature=channel have a look at this short game , particular on 0.33/2.49, Bao smashed out, u still heard the claps from the supporter, i cant see anything wrong when happened in CBA tournament....during the tournament, you will see a lot of people got no sportmanship...bad temper, shouting, throwing racket...etc

i would suggest if you unhappy at that time, you should voice out to gary, get Nemesis guys kicked out of the stadium....

I felt unhappy when i was try to capture some nice action photos for both of them, someone just told me it just within 2m range "you using a ZOOM lens?", this seem very sarcastic to me, i was really unhappy about this, but what to do? people like to talk, at first I was thinking how well he know about photography or indoor sport photography ?? A SUPER long white lens doesnt mean i showing off what i got.

**Chrischen** · 05-04-2010, 08:28 AM

I just happened to come across this threads, i was there watching the game well, from my point of view i dont see any reason why you said they got no sportmanship at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2B7...eature=channel have a look at this short game , particular on 0.33/2.49, Bao smashed out, u still heard the claps from the supporter, i cant see anything wrong when happened in CBA tournament....during the tournament, you will see a lot of people got no sportmanship...bad temper, shouting, throwing racket...etc

i would suggest if you unhappy at that time, you should voice out to gary, get Nemesis guys kicked out of the stadium....

I felt unhappy when i was try to capture some nice action photos for both of them, someone just told me it just within 2m range "you using a ZOOM lens?", this seem very sarcastic to me, i was really unhappy about this, but what to do? people like to talk, at first I was thinking how well he know about photography or indoor sport photography ?? A SUPER long white lens doesnt mean i showing off what i got.

I am totally agree with you btchia.

As a player, you cannot control any of the audiences who watch your match. Think it this way, people just clap for their players who win the point, but not for your mistake. If you cant take it, you should not have been in the tourament at all.

**Fu Hin** · 05-04-2010, 09:22 AM

guys we certainly are going to see each other very often in the future and these quarrels are not going to make anyone happy

I am a member of the Nemesis club. Like Robbo77 said, some of us did clap when Romain(the French guy) made mistakes. But the claps were for the points our player won, but not to tease or shock Romain. And btchia had made a valid point. In the link he has posted, 2 Chinese players were playing against each other, but the supporters still clapped for their idol when the other side made mistakes. I guess those claps were quite unlikely to be insulting the other side, their compatriot? Also, if we really were trying to insult Romain, we probably would "boo" instead of clapping i guess?

guys no one feels good when we have to see each other as an enemy. lets put this to an end.

**keenweisam** · 05-04-2010, 10:41 AM

keep it clean guys. at the end of the day, badminton should be something we all love, and that brings us all TOGETHER, not creates enemies. I feel that the nemesis spirit is something that has been lacking from local tournaments. I don't ever remember seeing a group rallying together and cheering for their players. I know i certainly haven't been cheered like that before, and would love for it to happen some day!
i can also see how romain was upset. perhaps he just needed his own group of supporters too?
just my thoughts.

**BadFever** · 05-04-2010, 07:40 PM

Wow, so much happenings in just a graded tournament, especially with so many participants turned trophy hunters. Maybe trophy hunting is not such a bad idea. hehehehe....

**Frank79** · 05-04-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by BadFever

Wow, so much happenings in just a graded tournament, especially with so many participants turned trophy hunters. Maybe trophy hunting is not such a bad idea. hehehehe....

Too many Trophy Hunters!!! It is really discouraging and unfair for others when players of higher grades compete in lower grades.

**BadFever** · 05-04-2010, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Frank79

Too many Trophy Hunters!!! It is really discouraging and unfair for others when players of higher grades compete in lower grades.

Wait till you see vienb in coming Vic graded, in D grade some more.

I assume Aaron and Dee will be playing the C grade, since they already won the B in cba. They are now my idols.

**wingcctw** · 05-04-2010, 10:06 PM

I dont really think Aaron and Dee are trophies hunters as they tried so hard in the A grade. Why do they paid extra to enter the A grade if their aim was just trophies.

Speaking of the Romain's case, those claps and cheering were definitely for the players that won the point not the mistakes that Romain/his partner made. I'm also a member of Nemesis and we all know Romain. I explained to him that the cheering wasn't about his mistakes but the players who won a point and he was fine with what I have said. So i guess this is just a difference between cultures.

Btw would you please stop saying something like Nemesis Honky, Robbo77?! As I guess you have no idea of where we come from, Thanks.

**tzanthology** · 05-04-2010, 11:25 PM

To Romain, some of us were cheering for a mate, but hey, we still love you.

To Robbo77, "Nemesis Honky" huh? ur asking for it.
we know who u r, we know where u r. Apologise or u better watch ur back, u never know what "Nemesis Honkies" might get up to

**Robbo77** · 05-05-2010, 03:48 AM

So I was right. I guess this could be a clash of culture. Romain and myself saw applause of a player's errors to be teasing and putting them off, not clapping for your team. I applaud a player who makes a good shot to beat the opponent only, not when his opponent makes a silly mistake not caused by my player. That is not part of the spirit of the game where I come from.

Even without your group's ïntent", it did put Romain off, which unfortunately ruined his play (his fault for letting external factor impact on him in match), but nevertheless you go to the tennis where mostly non asian audience and you would see my point of view much more clearly to the point of if you try that tactic you would xbe thrown out of stadium!!

Originally Posted by Fu Hin

guys we certainly are going to see each other very often in the future and these quarrels are not going to make anyone happy

I am a member of the Nemesis club. Like Robbo77 said, some of us did clap when Romain(the French guy) made mistakes. But the claps were for the points our player won, but not to tease or shock Romain. And btchia had made a valid point. In the link he has posted, 2 Chinese players were playing against each other, but the supporters still clapped for their idol when the other side made mistakes. I guess those claps were quite unlikely to be insulting the other side, their compatriot? Also, if we really were trying to insult Romain, we probably would "boo" instead of clapping i guess?

guys no one feels good when we have to see each other as an enemy. lets put this to an end.

**Robbo77** · 05-05-2010, 03:53 AM

Hey mate I was talking about them playing in B grade, they are much too strong for B grade, in A grade they are very good also but are in the right grade when playing A. I have played with them many times and know their standard. I can see when they "play" with their B grade standard opponent.

I already discuss Romain incident and someone from Nemesis already explain why they clap which endorsed what I said.

Yes to me Honky meant coming from HK. Any racial slur I know of is when a black guy calls a white guy Honky in my dictionary, but if asian meaning is racist I will stop use it too ok

Originally Posted by wingcctw

I dont really think Aaron and Dee are trophies hunters as they tried so hard in the A grade. Why do they paid extra to enter the A grade if their aim was just trophies.

Speaking of the Romain's case, those claps and cheering were definitely for the players that won the point not the mistakes that Romain/his partner made. I'm also a member of Nemesis and we all know Romain. I explained to him that the cheering wasn't about his mistakes but the players who won a point and he was fine with what I have said. So i guess this is just a difference between cultures.

Btw would you please stop saying something like Nemesis Honky, Robbo77?! As I guess you have no idea of where we come from, Thanks.

**Robbo77** · 05-05-2010, 03:57 AM

I hope u r joking, otherwise

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Originally Posted by tzanthology

To Robbo77, "Nemesis Honky" huh? ur asking for it.
we know who u r, we know where u r. Apologise or u better watch ur back, u never know what "Nemesis Honkies" might get up to

**Robbo77** · 05-05-2010, 04:06 AM

Okay you go and play, try your best and have people clap because you made a silly mistake just because they want to "support" your opponent no matter what - that is called NO SPORTSMANSHIP.

[quote=btchia;1430502]I just happened to come across this threads, i was there watching the game well, from my point of view i dont see any reason why you said they got no sportmanship at all?