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Thread: Lee Yong Dae ( 이용대 / 李龍大)
05-03-2009, 04:11 AM #2007
05-03-2009, 04:26 AM #2008
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM #2009
(BTW, LYD's sense of anticipation is very well known among the Korean players. Have you ever heard of that in Korea?)
All my arguments are from my watching the games on internet and in videos. I usually enjoy watching LYD's games on internet live and then in videos at least a couple of times in analytical way with slow replays. I like to talk about this kind of stuff in more details with the game content itself not just from the scores or results.
Let me just comment on the losses against ZB/MJ in the past three consecutive tournaments. That would sound some excuse but it would be reasonable.
Usually, I see the success of the KOR MX somewhat depends on LHJ's plays. I don't want to argue that it's always up to woman in MX. But on the three tourneys, LHJ did many errors with not much information/experiences about MJ who have shown extraordinary performance recently. As MJ is rising as a top-ranked player, the KOR duo will need more games with her to anticipate her playing styles. IMO, at the next rematch, I'm optimistic for KOR as they will then know much more about MJ. (And ZB was in a very good form at the games.)
One more thing to note is... in 2009 Swiss Open, right one day before he played with LHJ in the final against ZB/MJ (which was the first match among the Final matches), he and SBC finished over-one-hour fierce battle against Boe/Mogensen which was the last match among the Semi-finals and finished after midnight! In sum, It was the last match he did through the whole Europe tours. In Swiss, LHJ was not bad, but in this case, LYD looked very tired as you can check how his movements were not that effective while ZB, who plays MX only, was flying over the court.
(Note he had played all MX and MD for the three weeks as he usually advance to the SF or F.) (Against Boe/Mogensen, they was leading but in rubber set, you can check how SBC, who is younger than LYD, making errors.)
I think LYD now know how MJ plays and I'm still go for him that he will manage MJ in his next matches with her.
Until JJS/LYD rising as 2008 AE champion, they had to store up sufficient experiences about world top-rankers. LYD was learning the others' playing styles ascribing them into his body. Finally, from 2008 AE, they started to show super performance, never lose to WR #1 and #2 Cai/Fu and Kido/Markis afterwards. Especially watch the video of AE 2008 SF against the MAS uncles to know how LYD saved the rubber set from 16-20; that's because he then knew how the uncles moved around court. (I have a bunch of things to prove about his learned plays. Just reflect that he always win the rubber set - why? - because he then came to learn how his opponents play. If you are occasional player in your club, you might know how this works IN PLAY.)
However, the most difficult style they can manage looks of danish. Rasmussen is a peculiar one who had failed KORs in many ways. (You surely know how KDM/LKM lost to him and Olsen in 2004 Athens Olympics.)
BTW, in the most recent game, which was 2009 KOR Open SF, JJS/LYD completely defeated the DEN team with absolute scores; It was reported a revenge match after 2008 Beijing defeat to them. (In the KOR Open, they lost in Final against another DEN team, Boe/Mogensen, in which, if you see the video, you might detect how the younger Danish players did something strange to make it through their seniors loss one day before. Reasonable excuse.) And in the 2009 Swiss Open, LYD could have won over the team even with rookie, SBC, which turned to be failure with SBC's lack of experiences as the commentator said about that.
OK, that's my partial argument to prove how LYD is an outstanding learning player in current world badminton.
I "don't" think that LYD is a good smasher(his smash speed is just so and so and look his jump-smash form which is very awkward) or a fast-moving, etc. player. But, he has very good credential for a badminton player, that is "sense of anticipation". (He looks very fast moving. Actually I would say No, he just moves effectively with anticipation that makes him look move faster.)
And this sense is acquired after learning in the situations on the court through the real games against another players. He always, hits the bird after checking all moves of his opponents and the court status. In slow videos, it would be helpful if you can check how differently he sends the bird and how uniquely he moses back and forth to manage his opponents.
So, he plays with knowledge of his opponents. If he faces a new strong opponents, he would lose. But after some learning time, He turns to be "yet another" player to the same opponents; he plays differently in a very brilliant way.
LYD is very likely of winning in the rubber set. And,
LYD is very likely of winning in the next match against new rising faces like MJ. (New rising stars can win LYD a couple of games, but not in later ones.)
Last words, I'm not saying he's a super-man, never losing, ever-winning. Just forgive me as I have somewhat exaggerated about his ability to make it noticeable. Thanks!
Last edited by narnia; 05-03-2009 at 04:55 PM.
05-03-2009, 05:07 PM #2010
... one more addition in his MX performance.
Do you think that LYD plays better than Nova or Limpele?
I think Nova or Limpele has much better abilities than LYD as for badminton skills.
But, LYD plays more brilliantly that makes him different from other players. He knows how Nova or Limpele moves on the court (in MX, I see INA man usually covers mid-fronts keeping his lady in his back.) and he knows how to make winning against those better players.
Yeah, this is one of the key credentials for a good badminton player and every badminton lovers know it. And I'm saying that LYD is super in this aspect.
If you want me to state another player in this aspect, I would say Park Joo Bong, Kim Dong Moon in KOR, Tony Gunawan, Hendra Setiawan in INA and Gao Ling who have just married - Congratulations!
Last edited by narnia; 05-03-2009 at 05:12 PM.
05-03-2009, 10:13 PM #2011
Just finished to read ur post narnia
Agree With u ...
All the people who hates Yong Dae
or who happy for his Loses on last European Tournament should read ur post
(of course i'm not talking about u event ^_^)
maybe i'm not watching all his game
but til now ...
the most Game i love ever is
AE 2008 SF ...
The game that prove he is one of the most talented Athlete in his age ...
hmm ... so many Great Badminton Player Nowadays
but Yong Dae is one of Young age Player who won Great Title ^_^
Hwaiting Yong Dae ^_^
05-04-2009, 01:14 AM #2012
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05-06-2009, 10:59 AM #2015
New Pict from Blog
maybe not New Pict
hmm i think YD wanna said that he's getting ready for Sudirman Cup ...
hope that i'm right ^_^
05-07-2009, 02:04 AM #2016
omg...the little girl damn cute la...hm....btw r u sure it's saying that he's ready for the SC? cuz the date at the picture....hm....2005....
Last edited by Sabby; 05-07-2009 at 02:16 AM.
05-07-2009, 02:23 AM #2017
narnia: i agree with u... your opinion is just like my opinion...
hope the best to yong dae oppa...
i'm still trying to translate yong dae's news....
wow,so many photo in this thread...
good job winda....
hope narnia come back soon....
05-07-2009, 11:02 AM #2018
wow, yong dae is indeed a BIG star already in korea and in the eyes of the world
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05-08-2009, 01:49 AM #2021
윙크, 배드민턴 이용대선수와 깜짝 만남 ‘윙크남매 됐다’
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쌍둥이가수 윙크가 2008 베이징올림픽 배드민턴 국가대표 이용대 선수와 전격 조우했다.
윙크와 '윙크보이' 이용대 선수는 지난 7일 태릉선수촌에서 만남을 갖고 배드민턴과 트로트 레슨을 받는 등 1시간 여의 달콤한 데이트를 즐겼다.
이들의 만남은 배드민턴 국가대표 김중수 감독과 윙크 소속사 홍익선 대표의 인연으로 이뤄졌다. 동향인 두 사람의 인연으로 윙크와 이용대의 만남이 추진된 것.
이날 윙크는 10일 중국 광저우에서 열리는 '2009 세계혼합단체 배드민턴 선수권대회 출전을 앞둔 이용대 선수를 응원하기 위해 홍삼을 선물하는 등 금세 친남매처럼 화기애애한 분위기 속에서 오누이간의 정을 나눴다는 후문이다.
윙크는 "큰 대회를 앞두고 있어 괜히 부담을 끼칠까 염려가 됐지만 이용대 선수가 흔쾌히 만남에 응해 고마웠다. 멋진 남동생을 둔 친구들이 많이 부러웠는데 이용대 선수 같은 훌륭한 동생을 알게 돼 기뻤다"고 소감을 전했다.
이용대는 "인터넷에서 '이용대'로 검색을 하면 꼭 가수 윙크가 함께 나와 만나고 싶었는데 실제로 보니 정말 유쾌한 누나들이었다"며 "윙크가 인연이 돼 만났는데 앞으로도 좋은 누나로 지냈으면 한다"고 화답했다.
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05-08-2009, 02:09 AM #2022
is that a twins??
hmm, can't understand what does it says in korean language though.
mind to translate it?
05-08-2009, 02:32 AM #2023
Apparently those are twin singers who happen to call themselves "Wink". The article says that the national team coach Kim Joong Soo, along with Wink's agent, set up the publicity event, which lasted for about an hour and included lesson in an older popular singing style known as teuroteu. Lee Yong Dae said that because of his nickname, "Wink Boy", there is some crossover in Internet searches for him or for the singing group.
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