Lee Yong Dae ( 이용대 / 李龍大)

**ytyang** · 08-18-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by pramana

The question is back to: Are you playing for your country or yourself?

Are you really expecting an answer from LYD??

I don't think LYD is a forum member....

**narnia** · 08-18-2009, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by pramana

The question is back to: Are you playing for your country or yourself?

Thomas Cup or Sudirman Cup does not bring "money" to the players. It is only for the prestige of the country.

Taufik is doing well since he bailed out from PBSI. He could pick and choose which tournaments to play, plus he negotiated freely for Yonex contracts.

I am sure for being 20ish years old, LYD will have better "future" to be independent and obtain longer and favorable contracts from Yonex/ Li-Ning or other sports products manufactures.

Koreans are people who respect collectivism or team spirits. It usually doesn't happen to get supported individually as all the players are belong to the National Team. He respect for his seniors and juniors.

So, he will not act individually. BTW, after Olympics, he is one of steady super stars in Korea to be called for many company ads, governments, etc. But still he keeps his humility that's give us quite good impression for him.

**ctjcad** · 08-19-2009, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by pramana

The question is back to: Are you playing for your country or yourself?

Thomas Cup or Sudirman Cup does not bring "money" to the players. It is only for the prestige of the country.

Taufik is doing well since he bailed out from PBSI. He could pick and choose which tournaments to play, plus he negotiated freely for Yonex contracts.

I am sure for being 20ish years old, LYD will have better "future" to be independent and obtain longer and favorable contracts from Yonex/ Li-Ning or other sports products manufactures.

Off topic:
- Unfortunately right now, pro badminton is still considered a team/country based sport. Meaning a lot of the process goes through a centralized national body which of course has some relation with the govt.
Yes, there are a few pros who have already jumped to that "pro"/independent level but there are only a handful of them.
Sure, independent players would be able to keep most if not all of their winning prize money. But the main issue is the prize money for tourneys and how it will support those players who participate. Playing as an independent pro is not cheap as one has to pay for the training, coaches, travel, lodging, registration expenses. I read somewhere, in tennis alone, even if a player is eliminated early, s/he would still go home with some reasonable pay. In badminton, with the amt of prize money they're offering, fuhgeddaboutit.
As long as the prize money/incentives in badminton is not as appealing as in tennis, don't expect many pro players would want to go independent. Maybe only a very few of them and if they can get some kind of sponsorship.
Btw, BCers have somewhat brought up/discussed abt this issue in another thread, on how to popularize badminton and should pro badminton go the tennis route or stay as is?
- Yes, T&UC and SC don't bring tangible, prize-winning money to players. Rather they only bring pride for one's country. But reality is, the nature and long tradition of the sport & both of those events will be hard to abandon. It will take the road tennis has undertaken to make T&UC and SC akin to a Davis Cup tourney.
- Yes, Taufik is doing so partly because he has a pretty good financial backing himself (well, you guys know his status). So, by going and playing independently, even if he doesn't win the tournament, he could still survive.
But for many baddy pros, even if they're to go on their independent route and play for themselves, the money just isn't there should they lose.
- I'm sure LYD has already received some endorsements and ads; check out his thread and see his pics. Heck, wouldn't winning an Olympic XD Gold do that to you??..

Originally Posted by narnia

...XD: more like Singles for men, can get some breaths while making strategic strokes
MD: should be instantly and automatically reacted. more flat and effective attacking styles needed
...

..the way i see it:
XD requires the male player to be the pillar and stronger player, more of a supporter.
MD, usually one player is more of a playmaker and the other the finisher.

In LYD's case, his role in the XD will be greater than in the MD. It'll be even greater if his XD partner is not reliable/consistent. In the MD, he still needs to do some work but he will have his partner to complement him. Usually a player like LYD, who plays in multiple events, will have a stronger finishing partner.

Approach to the game for each event, yes, i concur with what you wrote.

**narnia** · 08-19-2009, 11:43 PM

Did you guys know that LYD deliberately do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP2LenSWi74

1. touching the net tape
2. wobbling after that

He's very good at this. Check out his returns in your videos if you see more.

Enjoy~

**george@chongwei** · 08-20-2009, 02:27 AM

nice one..thanks for sharing though

**jinnie7** · 08-20-2009, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by narnia

Did you guys know that LYD deliberately do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP2LenSWi74

1. touching the net tape
2. wobbling after that

He's very good at this. Check out his returns in your videos if you see more.

Enjoy~

Yes, I knew it.
Actually he gave us a demonstration of that skill at the fan meeting last month.

**terry** · 08-20-2009, 08:04 AM

Not sure whether this been post or not? just want to share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXg3CYCjHAU

**vanxiaoyi** · 08-20-2009, 10:32 AM

i watched that, it was amazing, smashed the watermelon until it broke, lol

**YeLLoWind** · 08-20-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by jinnie7

Yes, I knew it.
Actually he gave us a demonstration of that skill at the fan meeting last month.

hhoo
how lucky u are ^_^

did he teach u all how to do that?? ^_^

btw ,,,, thanks for share Narnia

**Amin Khalili** · 08-20-2009, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by YeLLoWind

hhoo
how lucky u are ^_^

did he teach u all how to do that?? ^_^

btw ,,,, thanks for share Narnia

really lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!

**limsy** · 08-20-2009, 01:54 PM

already more viewer than bcl thread ,but still a few post short
haha^^
go lyd go
^^

**ctjcad** · 08-20-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by terry

Not sure whether this been post or not? just want to share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXg3CYCjHAU

(see pg. 73, post #1241 and pg. 74, post #1243 of this thread)
..but for some reason the higher quality versions have been deleted from youtube. The show was several minutes long..

**cherry_cupcakes** · 08-21-2009, 09:16 AM

in game 3, lyd seems like throwing his racket and look very upset

, even the judge gave him a warning, anyone know why?

**vanxiaoyi** · 08-21-2009, 09:31 AM

it is because he complained to the judge and the judge didnt accept his complain, something like that

**george@chongwei** · 08-21-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by cherry_cupcakes

in game 3, lyd seems like throwing his racket and look very upset

, even the judge gave him a warning, anyone know why?

you can't show your 'great' temper during a match..and no racket throwing here and there please

**thein90** · 08-21-2009, 09:55 AM

lyd are very bad-temper ppl i think,maybe he cant comunicate with the judge ...because his english level is limited..wakaka

**vanxiaoyi** · 08-21-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by thein90

lyd are very bad-temper ppl i think,maybe he cant comunicate with the judge ...because his english level is limited..wakaka

lol, im a big fan of LYD, and i hate that he has a bad english skill, but very true, that's why badminton players should learn the international/global language, hahaha, lol