Lee Yong Dae ( 이용대 / 李龍大)

**sylvester_dc** · 01-20-2010, 06:20 PM

i believe that LHJ has already given her country so much pride & glory throughout the years she has been playing. most noteworthy is her gold medal win in the 2008 olympics. she has been made to feel special for so as long as the korean team can remember as she not only gave her best in xd but wd as well. she was a force to reckon with in terms of strength & strategy. however, there comes a time in a player's life where inevitable setbacks come in -- injuries, physical concerns that come with age, loss of focus, the constant pressure to perform well, as well as the threat of younger and stronger players coming into the picture. although, i agree that age is a big factor in terms of stamina there are also exceptions like Zhang Ning who became olympic champion (again) at the age of 33. she retired earning the respect of the entire badminton world. though it is true that changing partners is never really easy, the interest of the whole national team should put into consideration when they enter the international badminton arena. Gao Ling retired with her pride in her sleeve. Her xd partner Zheng Bo was given Ma Jin as a replacement and now they're ranked world #3. change will always have its advantage & disadvantage. ultimately, it's the team's key objectives that will dictate the 'changing of the guards' or the 'passing of the torch'

**lee-lee** · 01-20-2010, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by ceanne

In my opinion, something is holding LHJ back - her age. she's 28/29 now and for a woman, by that age, it's kind of hard to be consistent. first, stamina wise, it's already given that LHJ's might have been weaken. LYD is a young player therefore,he can do all the moves on court and a man's (boy's) stamina does not deteriorate(i am not sure if this is the appropriate term to use) easily and we have witnessed this to the likes of Cai Yun, JJS (he's 27), Danish pair and so on. second is the ever-presence of pressure for having grabbed the olympic title. it is somewhat obvious that LHJ feels pressured all the time especially because his partner LYD, is a very dynamic player. I think what is needed is to push LHJ more and made her feel she's good. Look, everytime we put the blame on her whenever they lose, what do you think would be the impact of our opinions to her. She has to gain her confidence/self-esteem back. Changing/Switching partner is never easy. It takes time. What if the new partner of LYD cannot cope up with his pace? The result's just gonna be the same. LHJ's advantage over other Korean women player would be her experience. It is something you cannot take away from her. If the coaching staff of the Korean team does not believe that LHJ is still competitive, why do you think would they keep her and LYD's partnership? If they don't think she's still capable of winning a title, why didn't they seel for a new partner for LYD this 2010 considering that it is still 2 years away from the olympics? She just needs to refocus.

I wholeheartedly agree! thank you for putting it so eloquently!

And I think what's holding her back is her ankle injury. With LYD, she was out for one of the Korean tournament last month because of it. I think both LYD and LHJ need time to heal and recuperate/rehabilitate. Competiting too much when they're not 100% is hurting both of them, I think.

**badminto** · 01-20-2010, 09:26 PM

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! LYD/JJS LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COME NO1 SAID ANYTHING??????? how could they lose to an unseeded pair able just winning over world champions????

**george@chongwei** · 01-20-2010, 10:33 PM

from what i see yesterday, his md match with JJS...during the 1st and 2nd set.. they didn't smash much though.

IN the xd category, he also didn't smash much. The reason why the match being forced till the rubber set was lee hyo jung was making too much erros in front of the net as usual.

**hanilam** · 01-20-2010, 10:42 PM

I feel sad when korean md lost in the 1st round especially when play in their homeland. knowing it is not easy to change partners as when one player understand in every movement of their partners well, but bear in mind all these are competation whereby it must be handle like the most precious valuble time and object. if it not? it would a lost to korea as they are going up the mountain behind China. GOOD LUCK TO KOREAN BADMINTON TEAM, MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!! to LYD

**ctjcad** · 01-21-2010, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by hanilam

I feel sad when korean md lost in the 1st round especially when play in their homeland. knowing it is not easy to change partners as when one player understand in every movement of their partners well,
...

- Which MD pair are you referring to?? LYD & JJS??
- Lost in homeland? their homeland? when?..
- When did they change partners??..I thought LYD & JJS have been a couple for a while??..

**badminto** · 01-21-2010, 02:26 AM

LYD/LHY has given a walkover to Zhang Yawen/Tao Zhiangmin who they lost to in teh KO. itrs so sad. LJD is probably exhausted.

**narnia** · 01-21-2010, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by badminto

LYD/LHY has given a walkover to Zhang Yawen/Tao Zhiangmin who they lost to in teh KO. itrs so sad. LJD is probably exhausted.

LYD got the pain back on his arm. Reported not that serious but he will get the detailed examination immediately when back to Korea.

**eaglehelang** · 01-21-2010, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by narnia

LYD got the pain back on his arm. Reported not that serious but he will get the detailed examination immediately when back to Korea.

Oh, the same elbow/arm that was injured last year? Wish him speedy recovery

**ctjcad** · 01-21-2010, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by narnia

LYD got the pain back on his arm. Reported not that serious but he will get the detailed examination immediately when back to Korea.

..is for him to rest and get well for the Thomas Cup! If need to skip the European tourneys, that's fine also. No need to aggravate his injury even more.

**ceanne** · 01-21-2010, 05:21 AM

hope its not serious... i've noticed the arm problem in KO... its understandable that he needed to get out of the tournament as soon as possible bec it might cause him much even pain... i hope 2-3 wks would be enough for him to rest... i hope he can still catch up in the coming european tournaments... anyone who'd get access to the latest news about LYD's situation, kindly post them here so we would know... thanks

**eaglehelang** · 01-21-2010, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

..is for him to rest and get well for the Thomas Cup! If need to skip the European tourneys, that's fine also. No need to aggravate his injury even more.

WOuld they have to participate in TC qualifiers 1st, in Feb?

**event** · 01-21-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

- Which MD pair are you referring to?? LYD & JJS??
- Lost in homeland? their homeland? when?..
- When did they change partners??..I thought LYD & JJS have been a couple for a while??

sounds like hanilam is speaking more general terms about Lee's first round losses. Homeland first round MD loss with a new partner describes the Suwon BAC pretty well. It was Lee's 4th tournament with Shin Baek Cheol.

**ctjcad** · 01-21-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

WOuld they have to participate in TC qualifiers 1st, in Feb?

..that's right and that'll be abt 1 month away, enough time to rest & recover. After that, it'll be a string of European tourneys and BAC slipped in between before the party in KL. Yippeeee!!

**limsy** · 01-21-2010, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

from what i see yesterday, his md match with JJS...during the 1st and 2nd set.. they didn't smash much though.

IN the xd category, he also didn't smash much. The reason why the match being forced till the rubber set was lee hyo jung was making too much erros in front of the net as usual.

u sure u are in the stadium?
they smash for each and every point
especially the 2nd set
with most of the rally is one minute or even 2 minutes long as ong/hoon return all the smashes back
anyway
the japanese pair is more clever to play more placement and cross court smash yesterday
park joo bong is brilliant

i am sad too that i cant see lyd in action

**george@chongwei** · 01-22-2010, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

u sure u are in the stadium?
they smash for each and every point
especially the 2nd set
with most of the rally is one minute or even 2 minutes long as ong/hoon return all the smashes back
anyway
the japanese pair is more clever to play more placement and cross court smash yesterday
park joo bong is brilliant

i am sad too that i cant see lyd in action

yes, I'm the stadium

they smash for each and every point only in the 3rd set, deciding set

in the 2nd set, the mas pair keep giving the shuttle high up and play as they are in training mood. Lee Yong dae and JJS also play high ball with them. Not so much smash..

**limsy** · 01-22-2010, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by george@chongwei

yes, I'm the stadium

they smash for each and every point only in the 3rd set, deciding set

in the 2nd set, the mas pair keep giving the shuttle high up and play as they are in training mood. Lee Yong dae and JJS also play high ball with them. Not so much smash..

hmm
i think also no point to argue