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    Quote Originally Posted by LongReach
    Keep your mind set the way it is.....at 15 you sound like you already understand discipline, respect, focus and self control. Many people never learn this in their entire life.
    You remind me as a kid a MA, I listened to my sensei with absolute focus and attention.........Your sensei knows which students will go far.
    If your friends cannot focus for five minutes on simple things like listening to their coach..............they have already lost focus on what they are there for!

    You have a good attitute.........you will go far!

    Excellent post!
    Thank you sir.

    I really do hope I go far, be it in MA, badminton, or life in general!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoTheBearMan
    Thank you sir.

    I really do hope I go far, be it in MA, badminton, or life in general!
    yes, life in general, that i hope will be your best reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    True. In my pyramid, mental supercede fitness/speed.

    quiz: What supercede mental skill (which i had not talk about at all before)

    hint: many have said it before but in generic term.


    Ahh ........Chi Flow? hehe

    MMMMmmmm.........Probably wrong, My answer.is.......self discipline/self control.

    The reason I place that on top? A person with all those good attributes in MA and Hard Arts(ring fighting) have the potential to be......dangerous to others.

    Very few martial Artists are thugs-----> Taught discipline and self control.

    Many boxers train hard, become super fit, and mentally tuff----> discipline and self control are not taught....well at most gyms------> Dangerous to others.


    ie: Mike Tyson.........rapist, assaults people visciously in road rage.....A man who has little self control of the skill he possesses.


    I hope I am right,hehe, thought about this for a long time blah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    yes, life in general, that i hope will be your best reward.


    Yes Leo the Bear, in life.................You badminton and Ma are part of your life already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongReach
    Yes Leo the Bear, in life.................You badminton and Ma are part of your life already.
    Sorry, I meant the other aspects of my life not including badminton and MA like my schooling for example.


    Quote Originally Posted by LongReach
    MMMMmmmm.........Probably wrong, My answer.is.......self discipline/self control.
    Just a thought but isn't mental skill basically the same as self discipline/self control? Please correct me if I am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongReach
    Beleive it or not but my success in kickboxing was mainly due to my superior footwork learnt from badminton, lunges are used (straight right to low to the stomach.........the scissor kick was a great adaptation to kickboxing.......when someone attempted a 'leg kick' to my front leg, I would 'scissor' that leg out of the way and come straight back forward with a big straight right kick to the head.......crowd pleaser and a good counter attack. It makes it appear i am moving back where in actual fact I am withdrawing that front leg to come over the top of the opponents low kick in one swift fast.....and powerfull kick with body rotation and stepping through an opponent with full weight..
    I like that move!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixMateria
    But back to BL... He didn't really "revolutionize many of the old kung fu styles into one practical system". He practically shunned Kung Fu, deeming it impractical, and only kept some basic principles from the Wing Chun form. He learned from other MA, but he ultimately created his own Way.
    my sloppy writing(the confusion arised due to the word 'kung fu' has different meaning and imagination from different people so i spoke of it in generic term). Yes, BL had viewed the traditional kung fu as too flowery and contain many useless movements. He took the best of each style and formulate his own jeet kune do. Yes, wing chun is the closest form he had retained. In a sense, he has no fix style.

    back to badminton. I try to follow that principle too in stringing. The racket and its user dictate my pattern and choice of string to be employed. I follow no fix pattern and technique. That is why it is hard to describe my stringing when people asked how i string them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixMateria
    My main thing a few years back was TaeKwon-Do. In TaeKwon-Do, speed is king. It's pretty standardized, and sparring is either no contact or minimal contact.

    In a real fight, however, you need power to go along with that. They can't hurt you if they can't touch you, and the basic sense of MA is to defend yourself. But if someone's in danger, you need to be able to put someone out quickly. Then again, you can't achieve anything if you lack speed.

    I've learned much from the works of BL and many other sources over the years, along with personal experience in the MA. Though many other elements have taken much more importance, speed is still the penultimate skill to have in MA.

    But back to BL... He didn't really "revolutionize many of the old kung fu styles into one practical system". He practically shunned Kung Fu, deeming it impractical, and only kept some basic principles from the Wing Chun form. He learned from other MA, but he ultimately created his own Way.

    And Cooler... It's never too late to learn and practice MA. You see old geezers starting out in Tang Soo Do for health development and longer living, and it's as good an age and reason as anything else.

    I practice MA for the competition, the practical uses, and because I love it. Just don't start doing Muay Thai if you have kneecap problems and such...
    yes, what u said is correct, speed isnt the only component. The reason i talk about speed alot because many here have asked which skill to learn in badminton is the most important. I had also debated with many here about the virtue of speed versus stroke, strategy, strength and stamina resulting in many closed threads. Btw, stamina is just another angle of speed, if u cant keep up the speed, u don't have the speed to finish the business

    As u can see in this thread http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ighlight=beres, i have said speed and strength of lower class (lowly canadian national MS) is enough to beat someone with superior experience and stroke talents (pros WS) . Of course i was talking about 1 class difference like pros ws vs A's ms, or B's WS vs C's MS. Actually, if i'm a coach, strokes and shuttle hitting is the least important part of students training. U ask euroasian, which part of his training is most difficult and grueling hard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoTheBearMan
    Sorry, I meant the other aspects of my life not including badminton and MA like my schooling for example.




    Just a thought but isn't mental skill basically the same as self discipline/self control? Please correct me if I am wrong.

    I say life as in.............everything you do in life, be it school, sport, girls..
    I say life to wish you all success in everything you do.


    MMMMmmmm.....interpretation of words varies alot. I do not think you are wrong. I see mental skill as : The ability to think fast and clear and maintain high levels of concentration and focus.

    I see Self control as discipline, to control you skills you have learned, remaining calm if someone offends you and having the control to restrain from hurting someone just because you have the ability to do so. I have restrained myself many a time. I know what I am capable of and i know when I have bitten off more than I can chew. Self control can also be seen as being in control of ones emotions...........The hardest emotion I find to control is 'Anger' .....I think many will agree here. Anger overides logic in alot of circumstances and you do not think as clearly.

    You are not wrong or right........this is just what i think those words mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung
    I like that move!!!
    Yeah it was very effective....a suprise move not used all the time.
    Once an opponent goes to kick that leg, one of his feet is off the ground.........he is now for just a for a moment stationary....as I scissor that leg back........he misses and is put off balance on one leg.....his arms may drop to regain balance......the right leg comes in quick over the top of his kick..........not much for him to do....he is offbalance, stationary....and to make things worse he has lowered his hands......mmmm....bad situation. I was a more of a counter attacker than a brawler.
    That scissor kick is so simular in execution to the one used in badminton.
    Also my stance in receiving of serve is just about the same as standing in a kickboxing stance.....exept I have a racket in my hands. left leg forward, heels off the ground balance and poised to move in any direction and both arms in front of hands held at about chin height.


    . ......although there are more instances where I could not react or predict fast enough and.............my left knee and leg have copped a hidding in those years..............the reason I came back to badminton. My joints in my hips are now 'clicky'. I suufered cartlege damage to my left knee from a kick and it took 3months to stop using crutches and a further 3 months to walk without a limp.........My physiothearapist said that with that damage i will never be able to walk without a noticable limp..........sorry mister ex-physiotherapist, hehe I have no limp, I run, jump and any limitations are only slight and know one says 'hey, have you got a sore leg or knee to me . It does hurt sometimes.....but I just keep playing......I never say die.

    LongReach is was my trainers nickname for me........or 'The Girraffe'
    That is my favourite animal.....he is mostly docile......he eats the sweetest leaves at the top of the trees and does not interfere with other animals............but can kill a lion with a single kick if he has too.
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    how do u guys divide times between MA and badminton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    how do u guys divide times between MA and badminton?
    MA on saturday, badminton every other day of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongReach
    I say life as in.............everything you do in life, be it school, sport, girls..
    I say life to wish you all success in everything you do.


    MMMMmmmm.....interpretation of words varies alot. I do not think you are wrong. I see mental skill as : The ability to think fast and clear and maintain high levels of concentration and focus.

    I see Self control as discipline, to control you skills you have learned, remaining calm if someone offends you and having the control to restrain from hurting someone just because you have the ability to do so. I have restrained myself many a time. I know what I am capable of and i know when I have bitten off more than I can chew. Self control can also be seen as being in control of ones emotions...........The hardest emotion I find to control is 'Anger' .....I think many will agree here. Anger overides logic in alot of circumstances and you do not think as clearly.

    You are not wrong or right........this is just what i think those words mean.
    ahh, i understand. different strokes for different folks yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    how do u guys divide times between MA and badminton?

    My time table:


    Monday: Play badminton , A-Grade league competition.

    Tuesday: Rest

    Wednesday: Boxing Circuit: Skipping, Bag work, Flexiblity training, power to weight exercises: Chin up, push ups, situps, Lataral raises, leg raises etc and other 'weird' exercises just to break up the bordom of 'ritual' training. Ie: laying my boxing bag on a solid table, and hitting it with downward hammer like strikes till my arms are dead.......try this very tiring.

    Thursday: rest

    Friday: Same as Wednesday......but not as hard core.....more effort on Flexibility and footwork skills than hard physical work out.


    Saturday: Badminton Coaching/ Training. Very exausting, The reason why friday is only light exercise.

    Sunday.......My fun day! ..........: Fishing, Archery, Hunting, Socialising, I do anything I like on this day, Love my hunting with bow and arrow! Extremely difficult been hunting with bows since I was 18. Hiking through the bush in harsh enviroment really helps my mental toughness........When things go wrong out there........you simply cannot break down and quit.

    I love all my hobbies and sports They all stimulate my mind and keep me active.

    I have quite a few rest days....important: Overtraining runs you down and give you poor results you can lose condition. Although I would love to play badminton everyday like Leo the Bear!
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    i envy you guys.

    Longreach profile is good enough to be shown in Austraila Tourism brochure. Compound long bow i presume? Melbourne is a major city, do u have to drive far to your hunting/fishing retreat and walk about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    i envy you guys.

    Longreach profile is good enough to be shown in Austraila Tourism brochure. Compound long bow i presume? Melbourne is a major city, do u have to drive far to your hunting/fishing retreat and walk about?

    Yeah I am a real 'hobbie boy' at 28 I still like playing with toys like a little kid.

    I use a compound bow. Don't have a long bow, but I have wooden recurves. Modern Compound bows are more compact and arrow speeds are very fast..........also easier to shoot accurately compare to long/b and recurve.

    Lots of places to fish locally...the sea is about a 10min drive.....plenty of lakes and rivers within a 3 hour drive.

    I live in a suburb outside of the city. There is alot of open paddocks and fields not yet built on with houses. I hunt rabbits/Hares/Foxes locally.......10min drive.
    And once a year me an my 'bow buddy' go up north to Queensland for Wild pigs but over christmas just past me and my mate went to Outback South Australia hunting wild goats.mmmm...very tasty! .......Red Dust, 40degrees plus tempretures everyday it was like hell.

    Hunting here is just Feral/introduce animals mainly......Canada? You guys have Antelope, Moose and deer don't you? Hunting there would be just as challenging.........Snow and cold.......I am not conditioned well for that type of weather............Longreach will freeze to death there!

    I do like it here, but I would like to travell more to other countries
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    Haven't practiced MA for about 6 months... Once I find some time and a place to practice (spring's here... we might end up training outside...), I'm going all-out.

    The problem, and most of you know this, is that you're usually not in shape for MA training after a few hours of badminton. So I'm gonna have to find a "happy medium" considering my objectives in both.

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