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Thread: Kung Fu and the Art of Badminton
03-23-2006, 03:13 AM #86
Martial Arts is the ultimate discipline. I have been practicing Aikido for about 15 yrs. Then I ventured badminton, been playing for a month now and I would say that I can match the skill of an intermediate player whos been playing for a year or two. Which means martial arts do enhanced your ability in any discipline(sports), eg. badminton, basketball etc. And yes, I am a dan holder in Aikido.
03-24-2006, 10:42 AM #87
I would imagine the reason that badminton and martial arts have similar technique in areas is because it is the most efficient way to move. For example, imagine you are throwing a tennis ball... or anything for that matter. You pull your arm back and bend your elbow and then when you throw your arm straightens to maximise power, which is similar to smash/ clear movement.
So in conclusion I think the similarities come from the fact that both use the quickest and most efficient movement, which happens to be similar. As for the fact that Asia tend to do better at badminton: I think this is a mixture of vigorous training and fast twitch muscles (hence the use of wrist and poor tennis players who play long heavy swings)
03-24-2006, 12:12 PM #88
Reminds me of the first day i start learning badminton as a little kid.
The coach skip all the technical terms and gave us a easy example to follow
You hold your racket as if you are holding a big ass Knife with one hand
and so happen there is a water melon above you in the air and you want to
slice it in half with 1 quick swing.
You don't want to cut yourself so you swing with a diagonal movemnt
and the swing will finish at the non racket hand side of your body.
MA? i guess.
04-12-2006, 07:31 AM #89
Why martial arts?
I mean why martial arts? Fencers should be very agile, gymnasist have good balance, muscles. Too many myths surround MA. Job for myth busters I guess.
Next time you recognise me as a better badminton player, if I can do a tameshigiri on 5 Yonex racquets
Oh well, just my 2 cents. Besides, I'm a geek myself. 2nd year of aikido. Gives me a bit better balance and awareness, but so what. I could have attained it with figure skating
04-12-2006, 08:15 AM #90
MA and boxing sports build a leaner fast contracting muscles with exellent stamina.........Fitness(cardio), Flexibility, Discipline, Footwork/balance etc too many things that also benefits badminton.
Not sure if sliding around on ice has in comon with moving around a court as much as a boxer moving around a ring and moving around a court of simular size.
Fencing-------------> yes, can see that a benefit. Precise fast movements with the same hand as you hold a racket. Would do wonders for building skills of anticipating moves/reading opponents.
Not all forms of MA are of great benefit to badminton.(Rigid styles)
I have personally found great benefit in cross-training.
Badminton and boxing. I have stopped training in badminton for now and only play my weekly games.
I have changed my 'strict training regime' and diet as of the last 2 weeks to what i have previous stated in my previous posts.
I have cut down on Badminton and replaced that time with 'Core Muscle' workouts...........This new 'program' I have set myself goes for 8 weeks----------dam I have been sleeping well lately though.
I already have found a increase in my stamina and speed/power during matches in 2 weeks, which is motivating me to push harder with what I am doing for the remaining 6 weeks.
In the last 2 weeks i have brought my body fat down 3% and my weight has increased 3kgs.
Stick with your Akido, if you stop I am sure you would see a drop in your performance over time
07-27-2006, 12:08 AM #91
Kung Fu and the Art of Badminton
I noticed that even if many european players ranked fairly, still our fellow chinese players topped consistently, not only in badminton but also with other sports ( table tennis among others) I admired Lin Dan and his playing style, just like his teamates..I am also a fan of numerous kung fu movies, be it 70's 80's or recent..even if i dont understand their language..i just watch the fighting scene and i am amazed how they stunt their feat and those moves..very fluid and powerful..
Is there any relation between Kung Fu and Badminton and why chinese really dominates this sports..and how about our fellow malaysian/indonesian/thailander players..i believe they have their own set of martial arts too..
07-27-2006, 12:23 AM #92
do a search, many threads on this topic
07-27-2006, 12:30 AM #93
07-27-2006, 03:58 PM #94
They are both sports with an emphasis on agility and which likely work the same energy systems. For an untrained athlete, playing other sports might be a part of what people call "general physical preparation" (GPP), essentially basic athletic ability which covers agility, general conditioning, coordination, etc. For a high level athlete, however, this basic sporting ability tends to be much higher so taking martial arts will be unlikely to provide much benefits in this case.
07-28-2006, 01:08 AM #95
Originally Posted by Syndrome_B
Let me quote you a sentence from a western action movie that uses quite a lot of kung fu-style fighting moves; "Assumption is the mother of all f**k ups".
07-28-2006, 06:04 AM #96
Thanks for the comment. I just hope you are not sounded as if you are offended..FYI, Im not trying to corelate kung fu training to adulthood ...I didnt mention the word or mean "assumption" coz when you asumme, you are making the ASS of U and ME. I didnt mentiion any derogative remarks on any in fact i admired chinese players as well as other players around the world..It so happen that kung fu is undeniably chinese right? This forum i believe is created for learning, not for raising any racist or ignorant remarks. Hmm..maybe u misinterpreted my post or maybe u didnt get my point. In that case our fellow here "stumblingfeet" got the case right and he stated his/her point of view well. Dont worry I appreciate different minds , different views and different people here..you've just have to ride the waves of different cultures..BUT DONT FORGET..WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BADMINTON
07-28-2006, 10:46 AM #97
To answer your question Syndrome:
Most chinese do not learn martial art.
Most chinese badminton players do not learn martial art.
The martial arts is probably not encoded in our genes
Therefore the fact that many chinese badminton players are good probably has no relation to knowledge/skill in martial arts.
Also btw, martial arts probably first arose in India.
07-28-2006, 12:01 PM #98
Martial arts probably have better application for participants of contact sports. For example, football players need to know how to take a person down to the ground when tackling. Also, hockey players need to know how to take a punch to the head and keep punching.
I don't see a lot of fighting in badminton though. Is that a good or bad thing?
07-28-2006, 06:14 PM #99
I think there's a correlation, but it's more conceptual and cultural.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the basic meaning of the term Kung-Fu goes something like "skill developed over time". Basically, something you work at consistently and improve in.
It can apply to wusu (or wushu) as well as cooking, other sports, keyboard typing... Anything that requires skills, really. I noticed how, generally, asians tend to work hard at everything they do, and I wondered if it stemmed from that concept.
But if you look at the Chinese team, they all have similar backgrounds: an early start, natural talent, and work, work work...
07-30-2006, 05:27 AM #100
Originally Posted by Syndrome_B
That has to be because of the perenial misconception of chinese people as kung fu people by westerners. That has to do with the twisted hollywood movies that constantly protray chinese as kung fu fighters and nothing else ever since the Bruce Lee days. As already mentioned, kung fu is just one of the activity around that some chinese do practise but most do not. This is similar to the misconception that westerners are *** maniacs/flirts which are absolutely not true. again, its hollywood. Its kind of frustrating sometimes to be stereotyped that way. Hope you understand.
Okay, back to sports. The reason chinese dominates many sports are because very young kids are thrown into the sports in China in a very bootcamp style. They eat and breathe the sport for 5.5 days every week for all their lives and does nothing much else while sportsmen in other countries have other interesting things to do besides sports. This MAY be because of the communist/socialist culture and we can see that previously from Russia, etc. So, chinese dominates many sports through hardcore training.
07-31-2006, 04:41 AM #101
Hi again, EastDevil!
Thats okay my friend, i do understand your point as well as your valuable insight about our fellow chinese and their way of living under socialist/communist government.. I know how frustrating it is to be stereotyped, but as i have said we have to ride the different waves of culture...we cant control what will others say about us but we have total control about how we will react to them.
Again, thanks very much!
Originally Posted by EastDevil
08-09-2006, 12:25 PM #102
to me i think it depends on what kind of martial arts u practise.
Martial Arts have its own style and badminton has its own style.
if u were to combine badminton with karate or muay thai, then i think u would get more strength with smash. If you to combine with TWD, Wushu, Sanshou, or any martial arts that involves with the foot or kicks, then your footwork would be good and u would have no problem playing around the court. But martial arts alone won't make u a good badminton player, u would also need the skills and the form to play badminton. Its like how martial arts need the right form to do kicks or punchs.
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