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    Default Jumping on toes or foot?

    Ok , as the title has mentioned , do you jump on your toes or foot? There's certain combination of these...

    Both toe/Both foot/Toe on badminton foot onli/Toe on support foot onli

    Btw i'm using the toe on badminton foot onli for a jump

    Does it affect the gameplay? I wanna perfect every aspect of the game

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    Jump on toe or foot ? It requires clarification.If you take off on your toe you cannot go up the highest level.Do you mean heel by noting foot?How can you attain good speed and height if you keep on pressing heels?

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    as long as you go high..who gives's a crap? for height I jumpw ith both feet and try to use all the muscle I have in my legs.

    if thís is what you want to perfect, you msut already be a pro...I don't think even LD, PG or TH worry about this..there's so many thigns that are more important...

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    Do you mean jumping on the balls of your feet versus landing on your heels?

    Generally, for the best movement efficiency, moving around on the balls of your feet is what you want to do -> this allows you to store kinetic energy elastically in your achilles tendons. To do this you need: good plantarflexor strength (strong calves) as well as reactive strength in those muscles (for example, try bouncing around with your legs straight, or sprint with your legs straight).

    jerby: I disagree. Things like foot position when moving around are on of themost fundamental skills in any sport, and good mastery of this leads to faster movement, more efficient movement, higher jumps, less tiring jumps, etc.

    Now, it may be true that guys like LD, PG or TH don't worry about stuff like this - but they're elite athletes who are naturally good at those skills, who are able to do it without necessarily knowing about it. However, for more normal athletes, sometimes these things have to be taught and developed.

    Besides, you mention jumping with both feet and trying to use all the muscles in your legs -> that gets very tiring, and it makes it difficult to make many jumps in a row. Athletes with very efficient movement skills are able to transfer much of the kinetic energy they have moving to the location into their vertical jumps - the end result being that they don't have to use as much energy, leading to more jumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumblingfeet
    jerby: I disagree. Things like foot position when moving around are on of themost fundamental skills in any sport, and good mastery of this leads to faster movement, more efficient movement, higher jumps, less tiring jumps, etc.
    positioning? I ahd the impression he talked about the 'push off' on the jump...not positioning, not moving around. just jumping..

    Besides, you mention jumping with both feet and trying to use all the muscles in your legs -> that gets very tiring, and it makes it difficult to make many jumps in a row. Athletes with very efficient movement skills are able to transfer much of the kinetic energy they have moving to the location into their vertical jumps - the end result being that they don't have to use as much energy, leading to more jumping.
    Well, I have to confess I donīt have the best jump on the court, but in badminton we jump to gain height. so if you don't jump at 70-100% of your maximum, then why jump? (unless you do 25inches on 50%..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby
    positioning? I ahd the impression he talked about the 'push off' on the jump...not positioning, not moving around. just jumping..
    Your foot is the link between the ground and the rest of your body. Now, it isn't entirely unusual for this link to be the weak point in the chain of movement, especially in a vertical jump where the hips output a tremendous amount of power. If your feet/ankles aren't strong or reactive enough to maintain the optimal positioning, you'll lose a great deal of kinetic energy every time you jump. So for the same energy spent, you'll gain less height.


    Quote Originally Posted by jerby
    Well, I have to confess I donīt have the best jump on the court, but in badminton we jump to gain height. so if you don't jump at 70-100% of your maximum, then why jump? (unless you do 25inches on 50%..)
    Sure you jump to gain height, but think of how many jumps you must perform in a match. It takes about 5 minutes to recover from a maximal jump, so obviously that is not going to happen. Note that there are two ways to jump - one is muscle power dominant and the other is reactive dominant.

    An example of the muscle power dominant jumper would be an olympic weightlifter. Look for pictures of a 300 lbs guy jumping 40+ inches, and it'll likely be an olympic lifter.

    Reactive dominant jumpers are those that are able to transfer their kinetic energy into vertical movement by using their legs as springs. Consider an NBA player -> their raw vertical jumps are pretty unremarkable, but with a run up they can get pretty awesome air. Pretty much, they're just building up speed then "bouncing" off the ground into the air. It saves a lot of energy too.

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    stumblingfeet: are you a doctor or something ? u sound very technical when talking about body kinetics. maybe if u say u are a specialist in this area, you'll bring everyone to ur audience.

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    Nah, I'm not a doctor. But, like most people here, I'm interested in sports and badminton. For the most part I try to keep things simple when coaching. But sometimes, when coaching "nerdy" technical people, they want a detailed technical analysis, maybe just to see that you understand what's happening.

    Anyhow, if you look around there are a lot of great sources of information out there about coaching, physical training, biomechanics, etc. Look them up, and start reading - it's fascinating material. For a start, go look up the post I made in the strength training thread where I posted a bunch of links to some good websites. From there, move on to the texts and articles that they reference in their articles. Then come back to badminton central, and we'll have some good discussions about badminton!

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    stumblingfeet: I consider myself very nitty-gritty nerdy technical player. I guess I'm trying to make up for my weakness in my instinct/feel department.

    can I PM or email you for some specific qn, now that I know u are probably are a coach ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerby
    positioning? I ahd the impression he talked about the 'push off' on the jump...not positioning, not moving around. just jumping..

    Well, I have to confess I donīt have the best jump on the court, but in badminton we jump to gain height. so if you don't jump at 70-100% of your maximum, then why jump? (unless you do 25inches on 50%..)
    Yah , wad i meant is onli for jumping on toes or foot , not moving around wif toes or foot!!!!

    So is there any opinions abt it
    the foot btw i meant the whole foot? the heel to the toe if u cannot understand

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    i jump with the part near to the toes. imagine if you want to reach out for something taller than your reach and you raise your feet. That's how I jump. Seems to be more turbocharged than the whole foot taking off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster
    i jump with the part near to the toes. imagine if you want to reach out for something taller than your reach and you raise your feet. That's how I jump. Seems to be more turbocharged than the whole foot taking off the ground.
    using the balls of your feet activate your calv muscles

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    yes, exactly what i wanted to say ! good summary.

    it certainly feels more punch when i fly... that's hwo i jump in my basketball games too.

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    do whatever feels natural and most effortless. no point in fixing whats not broken.

    instinctively you know how to jump.

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