[pics] Which string machine among these 2 ones ???

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  1. Chilefeu

    Chilefeu Regular Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm gonna buy a string machine very soon, I hope within the end of this month or in September, and I have choice between these 2 machines :

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    It's all i can get in my area. i've already thought about buying in the States but postage cost far too much expensive and the reliability is not great :cool:
    The dropweight machine cost 400 euros whereas the Crank is 600 euros.

    So, which one would you recommend to me ?

    Thanks for your help & replies,
    :) Simon
     
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    First one, drop weight machine is easier to take care of and usually cheaper for first time stringer.
     
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    If you use it for personal usage, then drop weight is good enough. If you go for more than 3-4 rackets per day, then crank can save you a bit time and effort.

    Btw, the string progress from the pic looks to be bad. The stringer finishes the main from left to right, rather than start in the middle and alternate between 2 sides. I know it has 6 points support, but still a bit risky, especially if working with high tension. :cool:
     
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    Drop weight will take longer but will give you consistent and constant pull each time.

    Yes, the photos show very advance stringing technique :p. Do not even attempt to start the main from left to right with a six-point suspension machine.

    You might also want to consider www.stringway.com
     
  5. Chilefeu

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    Hi all

    Thanks a lot for your help and answer,

    Well, i will consider the dropweight machine.

    -I have a question : do you think "360 degree racquet rotation" is enabled on this machine ? I cannot see since the photo was taken by the up ... Moreover i don't have a lot of experience in stringing's ...:eek:

    -By the way, what do I have to buy extra to start stringing ?

    I suppose :
    - 2 floating clamps,
    - 1 awl,
    - strings (of course:D)
    - cutting tools,
    Something else ?


    As for the racquet on the photo, well, i know the stringer who started this job just before taking the photo . I met him a little time ago on a tourney . He's already strung one of my racquets (MP99). I won't ask him to string mines anymore ... He works in the shop where i'm expected to buy the string machine. But he strings like an idiot. Hope i will string better than him :D

    Many thanks for your help ! :)
     
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    The mechines in your pictures has swival clamp. These are better than floating (flying) clamps if you can replace them with badminton clamps. They are better and easier to work with than floating clamps. Check with the shop to see if you can get it has badminton one or if it is tennis clamp, can you buy additional one for badminton.
    I believe almost all the stringing machines can rotate 360 WITHOUT racquet mouted. However, both machines can not rotate 360 freely when racquet is mounted because the shaft will hit the tensioning head no metter what.
     
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    from the picture, it looks like both machines have fixed clamps.. So technically you don't need fly clamps to start stringing. It's more a matter of the stringer's preferred method to string rackets. I know PeteLSD uses a combination of both..but he's a crazy high tension stringer.
     
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    :D :D :D Nothing more satisfying than torturing a racquet to 32 lbs - the beginning of the holy grail of high tension :D :D :D.

     
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    Ok thanks all for your help ;)

    I'll ask you later for any other informations (if any...)

    :)
     
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  11. Chilefeu

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    Thanks for the link, i'm gonna consider it;)

    I'll send them a mail in the week, in order to see if everything's available and what are the shipping cost.

    A drop weight machine (pro's pro challenger) would cost me 300 € only with 2 badminton fixed clamps and many tools !!! WoW ...

    As for floating clamps, i have a question, I can get 2 of this one in my area for 20 dollars only ...
    I'm also interested cos' i could string a little faster (i asked many stringer in my area and a ot of them only use floating clamps or use a combination of the Two -floating and fixed-)

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    Do you think they worth it ?Or do you recommand me another brand ?
    I think it's all i need to start stringing, since i can replace an awl by a "teeth floss" and i already have cutting tools -scissors, pliers, grommets remover (this one is hand-made ;))- ...

    Thanks for your help and answer
    Sim:)
     
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    So ?

    Could somebody answer me please ? :crying:

    What do you think about these floating clamps ... ? Give me your opinion

    Thanks :)
     
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    Don't know about the referenced fly clamps but I will vouch for the Hi-Qua fly clamp. IMHO, it's better than Yonex as well as Gamma and Eagnas.

     
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    Well, I have just ordered any winex ones (2)

    I'll see how they perform. I paid 18 euros for them (not that much expensive)


    But i have another question now.
    How can you remove grommets with no grommets removal ???

    I have no idea ... since i'd like not to buy a grommet removal since it's quite much expensive ...

    Thanks for your help and reply
    Sim :)
     
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    The performance of the spring type of clamps is highly depend on the spring. If the spring is way too loose, then, you will lose more tension, espeically working with higher tension ranges. Personally, I know Yonex or HiQua can go the job well up to at least 25lb range.

    For gromments removal, if you don't do it very often, a nail cutter with a needle nose piler can do the job. Just be gentle, as you don't want to scratch the paint on the frame. :)
     
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    Thanks for your answer LB :) Well, I ordered this floating clamp and thus i will tell you how it performs.
    At worse, if it's not good, i will buy any HiQua ones.

    ... Besides, thanks for your help about grommets removal technic ;) . I'm gonna try your method now on a broken MP 28. It should be simple. Last, but not least, I have saved up 25 € :p
     
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    - Ok, These are pics from my machine :)
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    I've already succeeded in stringing 3 racquets : one at 21 lbs, the other one at 23 lbs (shown on the picture; at-500) and my TMP 999 at 24 lbs. Cannot go higher with ML, i need to order PG 65 or BG-65 for my club or i'll probably have negative returns from my customers:()
    I'll string mines with ML, PG66 or PG65 NEON, whereas I will string with PG 65 Neon or Power for my club. Players will have more durability and less playability. It's a great deal for me :p

    - As for flying clamp, well, it performs great ;) I tried 28 lbs and The string didn't slip at all (my shop already told me it won't move : they were right :))
    I tried stringing Micro-legend at 28 lbs (not the XL version) And I just have time to string 2 mains. And then it Snaps :D (This string might be Okay within 22-26 for this string, but not higher)

    - As for the support. I got a question. Do i just have to drop them on the racquet ? Or do I have to tighten them on the racquet ?
    Because, I don't know how to put them, so i just drop them against the racquet and that's all ...

    Any help will be appreciated ;)
     
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    Quick question: why the flying clamp while you've got swivel clamps?
     
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    Quick answer : I like to have 3 clamps in total, in any cases I string from the middle to the bottom or the top. I mean, in any cases, more than 23 lbs.
    Furtheremore, i can string faster :)
     
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    Why ask why? I have two fixed swivel clamps and 5 fly clamps. :p
     

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