Bird Flu Effect - Quality & Supply of Shuttlecocks

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  1. jckuo

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    If you use more than 2 shuttles for a game, it costs you too much and you need to check whether the quality of your shuttles have been deteriorated. The spread of bird flu has reduced the supply of quality feathers. Every manufacturer has difficulties to obtain enough quality feathers and has to use inferior feathers. It is suggested that -
    1. Buy manufacturer's own brand, not OEM brands of shuttles - because most of manufacturers want to protect the reputation of their own brands.
    2. Check how many games you play and how many shuttles are used as well as the cost of shuttles to work out your cost per game. For example, if 20 games played and 35 shuttles used (1.75 shuttles/game) with cost $18 per dozen ($18/12=$1.50 per shuttle), your cost per game would be $1.50 x 1.75 = 2.625 per game). :) If you change to a better shuttle which can last one game even it price is $25 per dozen, your cost of $2.08 per game ($25/12x1) is still cheaper.
    3. Secure the supply of good shuttles. Your supplier may run out of stock more and more often.
    Any other suggestions?
     
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    Ive found my RSL 2nd Tourney shuttles to be much inferior to the same brand/type 2 years ago, as I used to order them in boxes from Asia which would last me a year, since I buy them in a yearly basis, I think its fair to say that I'm quite sensitive to any change in the quality of shuttles. Their shuttles used to be very sturdy, me and my friends we all have confidence playing with it, they are also quite durable average to around one per game. I felt like being robbed after playing with the deteriorated RSL shuttles nowadays as we often need to use more than 2 per game as the feathers break very easily.
     
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    Need clarification here, do you mean more than 2 shuttles total per game or do you mean each person putting out 2 shuttles? In doubles, that would be 8 total shuttles. Or do you mean 2 shuttles total per match, which can be 3 games?

    If 2 shuttles total, per game or match, no way. On average, we go through more than 8 shuttles per game. But this also depends on who we are playing and what style.
     
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    Per game of 15 points (old scoring system) or 21 points (new scoring system)

    I mean more than 2 shuttles for a game of 15 points with old scoring system or 21 points for a game of 21 points with new scoring system.
    :crying: If you use more than 8 shuttles per game. It is terrible! You need to change to other better quality of shuttles.

    Please see the following from the President of one badminton clubs in Melbourne. He used Aeroplane black label and only use 0.88 shuttles per game of 21 points.


    Hi! James,
    I used the speed 50 for the under 17 and under 13 Junior State Selection event on Saturday 5th. August. They performed very well.
    No. of Games to 21 points (Rally) = 233 games - 207 Shuttles used = .88 per game.
    No. of Matches (Rally Points 3 X21) 111 matches - 207 shuttles used = 1.86 per match
    Our next major event is in September 30th & 1st Oct, which is the Victorian Veterans Team Championship, when we will be using up to 20 courts all weekend. So I will require some shuttles for this.
    Kind regards
    George
     
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    Cost

    What is your cost of RSL 2nd Tourney shuttles? It must be the third grade of shuttle if more than 2 shuttles are used per game.
    Most of manufacturer categorize shuttles into four grades - Best grade (such as Aeroplane black label - less than one shuttle required for a game), 2nd best grade (such as Aeroplane red label - for average players, less than one per game; for strong players, 1 to 1.3 per game), 3rd grade (such as Aeroplane green label - ladies players - one per game, average players - 1.3 to 1.8 per game, stronger palyers - 1.8 to 2.5 per game), 4th grade (such as Aeroplane blue label).
    The difference of price (wholesale) between each grade is approx A$2.00 (US$1.50) only, it is better to change to better grade of shuttle if you are not satisfied with your current ones.
     
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    each tube cost me $13 AUD converted, itz probably too late to change now... since I buy them in boxes of 24 eachtime. Thanks for the info anyways..

    I was lucky enough to have used some Yonex AS60 in the past, I dont think they are any worse than the aeroplane black labels, yet they could only last for a game of 21, definitely not 15. That game was played with very good patience on the game and minimal slices/brush of shuttles because of the preciousness of the shuttle.

    I'm going to order maybe two tubes of the aeroplane black label if they are really that good, hopefully my supplier have them in stock and willing to sell them cheaply.
     
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    We already use some very good shuttles, RSL Tourney # 1 or RSL Classic and/or their equivalent.

    If lessor shuttles, we'd go through more. For instance, one time I purchased some practice grade type shuttles and in one match 3 games) we went through 35 shuttles.
     
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    Maybe my level of play is very much different(lower), but one AS-40 lasted the entire match of 2 games(almost 1 hour).
     
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    I haven't played with AS-40s in a while but yesterday, I got a tube of AS-30s and in one moderate light match (2 games), we went through 8 birds.
     
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    I forgot to tell you that the following two factors would adversely affect the durability of shuttles dramatically -
    1. the freshness of shuttle - If shuttles have been stored for too long, the humidity would be dissipated completely and become very brittle.
    2. the condition of storage - if shuttles are keeping in a dry and hot place, the feathers would become less durable.

    BTW if your group play a lot of smashes, it is better to use the best or the 2nd best grades of shuttles becuase they are the top 20% produced in a batch and there is less variation among them. Becuase most of shuttles (maybe 60 - 80% dependent on different producers) in a same batch are categorized into 3rd grade, the quality difference of each one is much bigger. You may be unlucky to buy those in the low end of that grade of shuttles.
     
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    hi buy shuttlecocks that is made of goose feather. dont go for cheap ones since they are made of duck feather which tend to break easily and the flight is not as good as goose feather.
     
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    2-3 shuttles per game (6-9 per match) is what I would expect to use in a hard game with lots of power hitting. Have used up to 6 per game to 21.....

    Not cheap but very fun :)
     
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    Hi Russki,

    If you want to try Aeroplane shuttlecocks, black, red or green labels; you can contact me at james@calibreaustralia.com. Their quality is quite good and can save you lots of money. Currently many badminton clubs in NSW, VIC, SA and even some in WA and QLD are using Aeroplane shuttles.
     
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    Hi jckuo,

    It wouldn't make a massive difference what brand we use :) We're just like that sometimes. I am quite satisfied with what I currently use.
     
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    In some months, i will email you and order shuttles :p
    Thanks.
     
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    erm..wow..
    in a normal match we go through 2-4 as30's...yikesd, 8 is a lot...

    do the feathers fray up? or does the bird desintergrate? or just mishitting (hard)?

    because 8 really is a lot...
     
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    quality of the last batch of HQ -blue shuttles has certianly improved over the ones I got last year. price is only about a buck higher now.


    Anyone else see a dip then a rebound in quality?
     
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    Usually the cage collapses (gets soft and doesn't stay round) first if there are no mishits. If mishit, bye-bye feathers.
     
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    Hi Qua Blues have been OK, saw a little dip in quality a while back but it's still OK. No rebound though.
     
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    Re your AS-30s going soft, That's normally the cork going soft isn't it? Continued use leads to detachment of cork and feathers?
     

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