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    Quote Originally Posted by red00ecstrat
    i m glad u are no taufik. just relax man! i've been doing my job professionally for the past 15 years. i know what is right and what is wrong. my shoulder wasn't actually touched that line judge's knee. i was just sitting 1 seat behind her with that side by side distance. is that clear enough?
    besides, do u think the umpire will allow me to sit that close?
    I was only joking. Should have added a there.

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    Sometimes players go thru a moment of madness....even great players....I guess taufik reacted in the heat of the moment....Remember a certain Zinedine Zidane who headbutted Marco Materazzi in the FIFA world cup

    I m not saying what taufik did was right...just saying some people tend to act with their emotions rather than their heads....

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    Taufik boycotts semifinal due to judging dispute
    (CRIENGLISH.com)
    Updated: 2006-09-01 10:22

    Indonesia's badminton star Taufik Hidayat boycotted a match against the defending champion Chinese Lin Dan because of a judging dispute in the Hong Kong Open semifinals.

    Lin Dan of China won the match aganist Taufik of Indonesia to advance August 31, 2006. [Xinhua]


    Taufik, who claimed both titles from the Athens Olympics in 2004 and the world championship in 2005, announced to quit the match after a dissension with the match's umpires.

    The dispute came at the beginning of the first set as a side referee changed her judgment from out to in on a dispute point which makes Lin take a 4-1 lead.

    Taufik assailed the referee and then went to the umpire asking for a scoring change. But the umpire refused it, which enraged the bad-tempered Indonesian who was once to boycott another match due to a same reason during the men's team final against the hosts South Korea in the Busan Asian Games in 2002.

    Senior judging official Lui Ming Kai, who tried to mediate Taufik and the umpire but failed, had to announced the end of the match.

    "The umpire and the side referee made the same judgment on the point but the player could not accept it. He insisted on boycotting the match, and what I can do is only to accept it and to report it to the International Badminton Federation," said Lui.

    While Taufik refused to commented on the match, his rival Lin said it's an unexpected result.

    "It's out of my expectation," said Lin. "I hoped to have a good match as there are not many chances to play against Taufik.

    "I think respecting the umpire's decision should be a common sense for players. If I had been in the same situation, I would have chosen to go on playing.

    "Actually it's just the beginning of the match, it's not a match point. No need to quit it just because of such a little dispute.

    "Like players, referee also need time to warm up," said Lin.

    Lin had won four of previous eight clash with Taufik and their ninth clash came into the spot light in the fourth day of the Hong Kong Open which is the last warm-up tournament ahead of the next month's world championships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juniorjunior
    Sometimes players go thru a moment of madness....even great players....I guess taufik reacted in the heat of the moment....Remember a certain Zinedine Zidane who headbutted Marco Materazzi in the FIFA world cup

    I m not saying what taufik did was right...just saying some people tend to act with their emotions rather than their heads....
    Yes, and Zidane got a three-match ban, not that it mattered to him.

    Acting with emotions is not an excuse for doing something wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcyong
    Yes, and Zidane got a three-match ban, not that it mattered to him.

    Acting with emotions is not an excuse for doing something wrong.
    that's true....but there is always one controversial player in every sport.....badminton=taufik, boxing=mike tyson, cricket=shane warne, rugby=countless , tennis=john mcenroe etc etc...haha...that's what makes the world of sport interesting....

    These players do the most outrageous things and will undoubtedly pay for it....guess the politically right thing to say is what taufik is did was wrong and he will probably get what's coming to him(from the PBSI-maybe not....more likely from the IBF if they have the balls)

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    totally agree with the report..

    i believe we do agree with what Lin Dan say, showed maturity with his reply that even referees also need to warm up, and that is same for the linesmen.

    see the mentality? "I think respecting the umpire's decision should be a common sense for players. If I had been in the same situation, I would have chosen to go on playing."

    that is the true spirit of a national player.
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    Any clear picture of the lineswoman?????

    I was there Wednesday and Thursday night and found a lineswoman who is not doing her job seriously.

    I want to know if it is she that doing TH-LD match.

    I didn't go through each post but I still want to make some comments on this tournament: half-boiled planning, unprofessional attitude, only the prize-money which makes it big.

    Everyone is victim....players, audience...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung
    Here, I think IBF needs to have a discussion with the line judge, umpire and referee and get a formal match report. Then, consider if Taufik needs some sort of fine.

    For my PERSONAL OPINION, Taufik should be fined. If he refuses to pay, some sort of suspension from IBF sactioned tournaments. e.g next 3 tournaments (5*/6* tournaments)

    And the coach shouldn't be allowed on court for a some time either.
    Imposing fines or sanctions on TH ONLY for this incident will make things worse....

    Umpire, linelady and referee contributed to the incident...

    The solution is "Provide an instant video replay system in every international match especially 6* event"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Kam
    Any clear picture of the lineswoman?????

    I was there Wednesday and Thursday night and found a lineswoman who is not doing her job seriously.

    I want to know if it is she that doing TH-LD match.

    I didn't go through each post but I still want to make some comments on this tournament: half-boiled planning, unprofessional attitude, only the prize-money which makes it big.

    Everyone is victim....players, audience...
    Ha..ha...BINGO!!!

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    Default Let's give it a rest, indra..

    Quote Originally Posted by indra
    Imposing fines or sanctions on TH ONLY for this incident will make things worse....

    Umpire, linelady and referee contributed to the incident...

    The solution is "Provide an instant video replay system in every international match especially 6* event"
    indra, re the comments i've highlighted in bold above, please see red00ecstrat's account(post #90), which he witnessed himself..notice, he even said "saw the shuttle landed on the line"...Now, how would you call that?? In or out?? Out or in??...
    BTW, let's move on. No matter how much argument there are FOR Taufik's actions, I think the wise thing to do now is to follow your "partner in crime", taufik-ist's action(see his thread)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by indra
    Imposing fines or sanctions on TH ONLY for this incident will make things worse....

    Umpire, linelady and referee contributed to the incident...

    The solution is "Provide an instant video replay system in every international match especially 6* event"
    - please define 'things' in your first statement

    - I can assure u that IBF will not fine the umpire nor the linejudge. To add, the linelady corrected her error right away. Closeby spectator(s) also supported an 'in' call. So, it was a bad call only from taufik point of view, not the umpire, nor linejudge nor spectator. So u mean taufik has the right to concede a match on any what he think it's bad calls anytime when he feels like it? Let me propose this scenario: If the linelady call in and then right away call out in favor of taufik, would taufik contest this call with the officials and walk off the court because it was a bad call? would lin dan concede the game coz it was a bad call against him?

    read the ibf rule book, umpire has the final call. If video playback was use, someone still has the make the final call, and i think it would be still the umpire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juniorjunior
    Sometimes players go thru a moment of madness....even great players....I guess taufik reacted in the heat of the moment....Remember a certain Zinedine Zidane who headbutted Marco Materazzi in the FIFA world cup

    I m not saying what taufik did was right...just saying some people tend to act with their emotions rather than their heads....
    yeah, and what did zidane get after he headbutted marco?

    and what did TH get beside leaving the court? and leaving the court isn't a punishment, mind you, while zidane did get a red tix out of the field

    see the reason why we need to give TH some punishment for his action now?
    not something like a few thousand dollars, he is rich enough not to care nor learn from it either

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    Quote Originally Posted by juniorjunior
    that's true....but there is always one controversial player in every sport.....badminton=taufik, boxing=mike tyson, cricket=shane warne, rugby=countless , tennis=john mcenroe etc etc...haha...that's what makes the world of sport interesting....

    These players do the most outrageous things and will undoubtedly pay for it....guess the politically right thing to say is what taufik is did was wrong and he will probably get what's coming to him(from the PBSI-maybe not....more likely from the IBF if they have the balls)
    u should explain each case more thoroughly.

    boxing: tyson was ban from boxing in USA. People see tyson as a high pitched low IQ bully. He lost all his million$. He degraded boxing if u asked the boxing fans.

    cricket, rugby: i dunno these sports so i can't make comment

    tennis: john mckenroe protests, in humorous manner which entertained the crowd. I wouldn't call this controversal. HE NEVER WALK OFF AWAY A GAME EVER, which would piss off the crowd. That is why john is now a color commentator because he never disappointed the crowd and tv viewers.

    See the difference here?
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    i see that the people who supported taufik were between the age of 17-22. no wonder. young ones, emotion can be a powerful weapon if u use it wisely to your advantage. it can also work against you when u use it negatively. u guys will understand the consequences later in your live. we live in a world of network. everything u do has consequences, it may negatively affect the bigger picture without you knowing it.

    i just tuned into the US open between Andre Agassi and Marcos Baghdatis. What a match to see and talked about. Baghdatis fought back even after losing the first 2 sets, forcing agassi to the 5th set. then BOTH of his legs got major cramps. poor Baghdatis still fight on, limping n limping n fighting until he lost the final set 5-7!!!! Agassi tried but Baghdatis just wouldn't give up. Both players were applauded and appreciated by the fans. Baghdatis i salute u!

    I hope no one outside of badminton would know what happened to Taufik's incident. A disgrace to the sport. He absolutely do not represent the majority of players in the badminton world!

    people will talk about the glorifying agassi v. Baghdatis match, n i hope they will not look at this incident and think that badminton players are kids who give up n whine when they disagree with officials...

    u try to promo badminton? u want to see how the ppl outside of the badminton circle look at us? a small matter u think? think again.

    behave whenever u r, ESPECIALLY when you r a star, a public figure, as u represents your sport, your organization, your country. celebrities has influencial power. If George Bush walks out from a public conference because he was annoyed by a reporter's question, guess what'll happen. there are always consequences. if u still do not get my point with so many examples, then may be you really are too young...

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    Quote Originally Posted by red00ecstrat
    finally, picture number 8
    after shaked hand with lin dan yet again then walked away!
    the most funniest part is li yungbo! look at him! he just can't help laughting!!!!!
    ok! go on your discussion!!!
    I think LYB was trying to say: "Hey thanks man for the easy game !"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad
    Concur with you, modious..
    Hmm, you think so heh, phaarix?? before this incident, do you think this kind of incident could happen, (eventhough it happened with Taufik before)??..Who knew anything like this will happen, again? And especially after the LinDan's incident at the MO...
    And if this doesn't get tackled, who knows what's going to happen next??..
    Well if this is the worst type of thing that happens in Badminton, then I quite frankly couldn't care less what will happen next.

    As for the comparison between Zidane and Taufik... Come ON! You have to be joking! Physical violence in comparison to what... walking off a court.

    Look I don't know why you guys can't just live with the fact that I have my own opinion. I'm sorry if MY opinion somehow offends you . I don't like this whole "making me out to be the bad guy" thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by hcyong
    If I was Taufik, I would be pissed off, too. We can't have linejudges playing hanky-panky with the photographers. Next time, when you want to touch her knee, do it outside the game, ok?
    LOL .

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    Quote Originally Posted by phaarix
    Well if this is the worst type of thing that happens in Badminton, then I quite frankly couldn't care less what will happen next.

    As for the comparison between Zidane and Taufik... Come ON! You have to be joking! Physical violence in comparison to what... walking off a court.

    Look I don't know why you guys can't just live with the fact that I have my own opinion. I'm sorry if MY opinion somehow offends you . I don't like this whole "making me out to be the bad guy" thing.


    LOL .
    soccer is #1 sport in the world. It would take 100x of zidane action to make a dent on soccer popularity. Badminton doesn't has nor can afford this luxury yet.

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