So who wants to see Taufik not playing?

**quik_silver** · 08-31-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by george333

Why, what did Taufik do Treker?

Prolly Treker is a Taufik hater.

**quik_silver** · 08-31-2006, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by khwong

I don't think this is necessary. I am sure IBF will come up with some form of punishment to prevent players from walking out of tournaments. It's damaging to the the world of badminton.

Taufik prolly earned enough, he might think he's too good for badminton.

And when did he walk out of the tournament.

**ctjcad** · 08-31-2006, 02:35 PM

.....thanks for all the pics..sorry, just able to follow up on this thread this morning..
Cheung, i thought you said you weren't going to take any pics, rather enjoy the match??..hehe

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Anyways, thanks again for the coverage, Cheung..You even ran outside to take a pic of Taufik and his coach walking down the stair..

**ctjcad** · 08-31-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by phaarix

But they CAN leave whenever they want. They CAN default the match to the opposition. Not everyone is the same though. Taufik personally likes to only play in a fair environment, and if he thinks it is unfair, whether it be true or not, he has the right to stop playing.

If Taufik participates in this yr's WC and meet LinDan again, hopefully he or LinDan will not do the same mistake again. Because for sure, Taufik will arrive in Madrid with a "bull's-eye" on his back..As all eyes will be on him, watching his every move on and off the court...
I'll say, no matter if Taufik believe what he did was "right" for him or not to play in an "unfair" environment, his actions definitely embarrassed not only his coach, teammates, countrymen, his fans worldwide but also his family..

**ctjcad** · 08-31-2006, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by vsdelfin

My 2 cents:
Taufik plays for himself, NOT TO ENTERTAIN the spectators. If he thinks that there is no point in continuing, its his decision. To demand him: "play for me bitch" is what is immature, not Taufik. Taufik is not your family doctor or your neighborhood policeman, he has no responsibility of playing to your satisfaction.

As to who is really the top dawg, the big daddy, the head honcho ... one more month and everybody can shut the hell up.

Hmm, Taufik doesn't realize(maybe he did, but just wasn't thinking right) he's playing in an International competition, not some local tournaments/exhibitions...And one which people pay "real" money to see...And my guess is the money itself is probably what the tournament's prize monies are comprised of??..Walking out like that after just a start of the game and acting rudely like he's the "top brass", esp. to a volunteer lineslady, in front of thousands or possibly millions of people, after a close or questionable call is not the way to go..It's totally uncalled for and worst, it's disrespectful to the fans who paid money to see..

..Even if Taufik is to compete and if he's able to defend his World Championship title next month(which i highly doubt he will), he will be playing with a "mark" on himself..Hopefully he's embarrassed by his actions and will put forth an apology(if not to the lineslady or to the organizer or to the fans, just like LinDan "sort of" did after the MO incident)..Because if not, he'll be putting more pressure on himself next month..

**TrueBlue** · 08-31-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Treker

I think Taufik's behavior is severely damaged the sports. So here are the suggestions to IBF:

1) Suspend Taufik for rest of the year;
2) Set up instant replay for all the 5* and 6* tournaments.

IBF's website is http://www.internationalbadminton.org/ibf.asp. Go to Inside IBF page and call or email your local IBF council (all email all of them) to send in the suggestion.

If you love this sport, please act!

Thanks!

He should also excuse himself for his behaviour at you.

**ctjcad** · 08-31-2006, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by red00ecstrat

at that time. i was sitting on the floor right next to that line judge with my shoulder touched her knee. so, instead of her. i dare to say no one can see it clearer than me! that shuttle was indeed landed on the line. the only problem was the line judge called an out at the beginning. but within 1/125 second later

she "re-call" it as in. and that's why taufik wasn't convinced!

that's what i thought also, that it was a very tough and hard to call...sigh

**Eurasian =--(O)** · 08-31-2006, 03:30 PM

What if the IBF fines or suspends Taufik and he quits?! Taufik knows the WBF (new IBF right?) can't do much to him because of his value to the sport and marketability.

**madbad** · 08-31-2006, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by khwong

I don't think this is necessary. I am sure IBF will come up with some form of punishment to prevent players from walking out of tournaments. It's damaging to the the world of badminton.

No they won't (or at least meaningfully). IBF has no backbone

**Vtec101** · 08-31-2006, 03:38 PM

I really can't believe how some people are actually trying to justify TH's actions. TH is competing at the highest level of the sport and for him to act this way is embarrasing, not only to himself, but to the sport. Everyone who plays this sport have had bad calls, not that I'm saying the lineslady made a bad call.
For those of you who says TH can't compete due to the unfairness, would he have walked off the court had a linesperson made a bad call against his opponent? Of course not. It's all part of the sport, everyone makes mistakes. And for TH to act this way due to ONE call perceived as "bad" by him, that's not a mark of a sportsman. And as someone mentioned, if he is worried about getting bad calls, he should just play in Indonesia, then he MIGHT get all the calls his way.
I used to admire TH for his skill and talent, but unless he matures and stop acting so spoiled, I won't miss him playing.

**ctjcad** · 08-31-2006, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Eurasian =--(O)

What if the IBF fines or suspends Taufik and he quits?! Taufik knows the WBF (new IBF right?) can't do much to him because of his value to the sport and marketability.

For all that matter, i doubt if Taufik really cares if he'll still compete in IBF or not...It seemed like Taufik has taken the sport, for what it has given him in his career, for granted...

If i'm PBSI or IBF's President, this might sound too harsh for those Taufik's fans, but i will disciplined him for the rest of the year or even longer by not allowing him to participate in any tournament(s), yes incl. the WC next month and the World Cup at end of yr?? This is to show who is "boss" and it is not Taufik. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't only apply to Taufik but to all players. Let him feel how it is not playing the sport he's been successful at and just watching it from home on his tv. If he wants to participate again, let him write a letter to the top PBSI or IBF brass requesting a re-instatement to play again, but with some conditions.
It sounds silly considering he's the current Olympic and World Champ, but hey, they've got to get this kind of actions/behaviors "locked up". Trust me, doing this will benefit the sport more in the long run rather than "baby" a player like Taufik..

Besides, he's got enough money to burn and it's not as if badminton will "die" without him...

**madbad** · 08-31-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

For all that matter, i doubt if Taufik really cares if he'll still compete in IBF or not...It seemed like Taufik has taken the sport, for what it has given him in his career, for granted...

If i'm PBSI or IBF's President, this might sound too harsh for those Taufik's fans, but i will disciplined him for the rest of the year or even longer by not allowing him to participate in any tournament(s). This not only apply to Taufik but to all players. Let him feel how it is not playing the sport and just watching it from home. If he wants to participate again, let him write a letter to the top PBSI or IBF brass requesting a re-instatement to play again, but with some conditions.
It sounds silly considering he's the current Olympic and World Champ, but hey, they've got to get this kind of actions "locked up".
Besides, he's got enough money to burn and it's not as if badminton will "die" without him...

I agree. Taufik's talents are unquestioned but his attitude is wrong. I think many have grown tired of his act and have no more time for it. I for one (a big ex-Taufik fan now), have. That said, badminton will go on without him. There are still many great players that can maintain spectator interest in international badminton.

Sadly, even if IBF or PBSI take action in whatever form–fine, suspension, both–it wouldn't hurt Taufik much, at least from a monetary standpoint. I bet he could just walk away from the game without batting an eyelid. Personally, I see a man who has lost his competitive zest for the game.

**Vtec101** · 08-31-2006, 03:49 PM

These were TH's words after he beat the spectator with his racket back in 2001.

"The spectators don't have the right to offend me because I take part in the tournament to entertain them. He does not have any respect for me."

So for those of you who says he's not there to entertain the fans, but only play for himself, I think you need to rethink that idea. Without the fans, there will be no sport, whether it's badminton, auto racing, football or basketball.

**chibe_K** · 08-31-2006, 04:25 PM

It would be inappropriate if Taufik did that to other players, but with LD, I cheer for Taufik! Good job !!! I hope more players will slap on LD face. This is not my prejudice against players from China. In fact, one of my favourites MDs is Fu/Cai. I just don't have respect for LD for his lack of sportsmanship.

**madbad** · 08-31-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by chibe_K

I just don't have respect for LD for his lack of sportsmanship.

Sportsmanship? Did you not just contradict yourself in support of Taufik?

***kwun*** · 08-31-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by chibe_K

It would be inappropriate if Taufik did that to other players, but with LD, I cheer for Taufik! Good job !!! I hope more players will slap on LD face. This is not my prejudice against players from China. In fact, one of my favourites MDs is Fu/Cai. I just don't have respect for LD for his lack of sportsmanship.

i disagree. this is not the best way to slap on LD's face. the best way is for TH to beat LD square and fair. play till the end of the game and show LD who's the boss.

TH walked out like this not only give LD the right to advance to the next round, also comes with it are higher ranking points and more prize money for LD. and at the same time, TH gets a bad reputation and get condemned by fans. to me, that's more like a slap on TH's own face than LD's.

**chibe_K** · 08-31-2006, 04:55 PM

I always like to hear different opinions...what you all said against TH make a whole lot sense to me. I am sure most would agree that what TH did was wrong, he was not using his head, there are better ways to protest, ...etc. At least, he cared enough to walk over to LD and shook his hand. After the incident, IBF should look into the matter seriously what triggered TH's behavior. This is not the first time player protests against a bad line call. "IBF, its time to do something and improve the standard of running a tournament". Also, what about the incident few months ago that LD refused to accept the ..not sure what you call that hat...on the podium at Malaysia Open. Did IBF do something serious about it ????