Miracle of Indonesia

**Bao** · 09-15-2006, 11:59 PM

In 2005, Indonesia only delegate 10 their top players, very small Squad I think. but see how dangerous they are in World Campionship 2005. they pick 3 tickets in Final and two of them get the tittle, again with only 10 players. in only three categories.
this year their player are getting worse and Indonesia still confidence delegating only 11 players with 6 same players as previously. Will indonesia Surprising World again as 2005? its very intresting to be followed.

**seawell** · 09-16-2006, 01:43 AM

Indonesian badminton players and officials arrive in Madrid

http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/?id=20129

**seawell** · 09-16-2006, 01:53 AM

Indonesian men's doubles face tough task at badminton worlds

Once a dominant force in badminton, the Indonesian men's doubles are losing their ground and have a long shot at next week's world championships in Madrid.

The duo of Luluk Hadiyanto and Alvent Yulianto, currently ranked ninth in the world, have yet to win a title in their eight tournaments this year, with their best results a semifinal finish at the Indonesia Open and Asian badminton championships.

Juniors Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan, now ranked 10th, won the Hong Kong Open on Sept. 3.

"They still have a chance but it's going to be tough," national trainer Lius Pongoh was quoted Thursday by The Jakarta Post newspaper as saying.

Indoenesia has won the men's doubles six times since 1977 when the event was included at the world championships.

Alvent was more cautious, saying he would take it one step at a time.

"We may have a relatively easy draw in the event but the third round will be a tougher test."

Alvent/Luluk will benefit from a first-round bye, meeting the winner between Glenn Warfe/Ross Smith of Australia and Dean Choppe/Matthew Fogarty of the US in the second round.

They are likely to face top seeds Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun of China in the quarterfinals.

Kido/Hendra meet Ali Shahhoseini/Golam Reza Bagheri of Iran in the first round and are likely to face Sudhet Prapakamol/Patapol Ngernsrisuk of Thailand in the next round.

"There's no domination in the men's doubles today," said badminton great Christian Hadinata, who won the world champion title in 1980.

"They only need to focus on their match and maintain their condition."

However, Alvent said he was still unhappy with the 21-point scoring system.

"I don't like it. It makes the game move so fast... without we realizing it, it's over."

Source: Xinhua

**ctjcad** · 09-16-2006, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by seawell

Indonesian badminton players and officials arrive in Madrid

http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/?id=20129

seawell, thanks for this link...btw, in the article, i didn't notice coach Christian's name..probably they forgot to add his name..

**taufik-ist** · 09-16-2006, 04:35 AM

a small squad is a special force

**eskey** · 09-16-2006, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

i didn't notice coach Christian's name..probably they forgot to add his name..

Christian Hadinata didn't go with the team. He didn't get VISA. Not sure whether he will go later or not going at all.

http://www.bolanews.com/edisi-cetak/bultang.htm

**ctjcad** · 09-16-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by eskey

Christian Hadinata didn't go with the team. He didn't get VISA. Not sure whether he will go later or not going at all.

http://www.bolanews.com/edisi-cetak/bultang.htm

alright, thanks for the info, eskey....should be interesting who will the 2 young MD pairs will rely on for coaching from the sideline..

BTW, eskey, you must be Indonesian??..

**CLELY** · 09-16-2006, 11:37 PM

Small squad with big mission. Certainly, PBSI know what they do! Good Luck for 11 musketeer!

**badMania** · 09-16-2006, 11:44 PM

I will be happy enough if the squad comes back with 1 title (most probably from the mixed doubles).

**ctjcad** · 09-17-2006, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by badMania

I will be happy enough if the squad comes back with 1 title (most probably from the mixed doubles).

yah, that's more realistic...

...The 2 MD pairs could make a bit of run, but i doubt they'll go far. R16 is more realistic. I'll be quite surprise if either or both of them go as far as the QF or even SF.
As for Taufik, hmm, i'm afraid with his early match on Monday, who knows how much stamina even if he's able to advance and go further in the tournament, considering all the reports that he didn't do much training in preparation(Remember in last yr's WC, i believe he didn't start playing til the 2nd or 3rd day of competition). Not this yr....we'll see, hopefully he won't create another scene during his match and just play his match as usual..

***Cheung*** · 09-17-2006, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

yah, that's more realistic...

...The 2 MD pairs could make a bit of run, but i doubt they'll go far. R16 is more realistic. I'll be quite surprise if either or both of them go as far as the QF or even SF.
As for Taufik, hmm, i'm afraid with his early match on Monday, who knows how much stamina even if he's able to advance and go further in the tournament, considering all the reports that he didn't do much training in preparation(Remember in last yr's WC, i believe he didn't start playing til the 2nd or 3rd day of competition). Not this yr....we'll see, hopefully he won't create another scene during his match and just play his match as usual..

This time he has no excuses. It's on neutral ground...aww, he'll probably blame the umpire or service judge instead.

**eskey** · 09-18-2006, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

alright, thanks for the info, eskey....should be interesting who will the 2 young MD pairs will rely on for coaching from the sideline..

BTW, eskey, you must be Indonesian??..

yes, you are correct. I am Indonesian

**Bao** · 09-20-2006, 02:00 PM

as predicted before, no women of Indonesia will survive untill 3rd round, Fransisca Ratnasari lost to Malaysian MWC in 2nd Round. and Jo NOvita/Gresya Poli lost to no 1 seeded GL/HS in 3rd Round

THe Rest of very confident squad untill 3rd round are:
Alven-Luluk
Kido-Setiawan
Widianto-Natsir
Taufik Hidayat (will play againts Cheng-Hong)
Sony Dwi Kuncoro (will play againts Bao Chun Lai)

will miracle occur again by Indonesian?

**kobe77sg** · 09-20-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by ctjcad

alright, thanks for the info, eskey....should be interesting who will the 2 young MD pairs will rely on for coaching from the sideline..

BTW, eskey, you must be Indonesian??..

the coach is Herry IP

**ctjcad** · 09-20-2006, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by kobe77sg

the coach is Herry IP

ah, it's him...thanks for the info, kobe77sg

**badMania** · 09-20-2006, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by kobe77sg

the coach is Herry IP

As always...Ko Herry is the coach. Interestingly, if you watch the Korea Open MD Final, he was the one coaching Tony/Candra

They were the pair who beat Kido/Hendra the previous day...and were not even representing Pelatnas

**badMania** · 09-20-2006, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bao

as predicted before, no women of Indonesia will survive untill 3rd round, Fransisca Ratnasari lost to Malaysian MWC in 2nd Round. and Jo NOvita/Gresya Poli lost to no 1 seeded GL/HS in 3rd Round

THe Rest of very confident squad untill 3rd round are:
Alven-Luluk
Kido-Setiawan
Widianto-Natsir
Taufik Hidayat (will play againts Cheng-Hong)
Sony Dwi Kuncoro (will play againts Bao Chun Lai)

will miracle occur again by Indonesian?

I am not hoping much from Sony...a win will represent a miracle given his form.

I am more hoping for Kido/Hendra to win..and prove that they are ready to take on the best! Seems like ppl here are still not convinced of their ability