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Thread: Annoying overhead clear
09-27-2006, 12:23 AM #1
Annoying overhead clear
I and my partner play double most of the time. We have hard time defeating a pair which often use attacking clear everytime they got a lift (cleared) from us. I usually were expecting for a smash of drop, but this time I always off guarded and imbalanced when they do overhead clear. The way I see it is that their style of playing is just like a single style. Seldom did they smash....and I can see that they enjoy making overhead clear waiting for us to smash.........PLZZZZZZ give me some tips against this type of players
09-27-2006, 12:30 AM #2Originally Posted by rotanimod
09-27-2006, 01:06 AM #3
maybe u need to smash harder and steeper ?
09-27-2006, 01:14 AM #4
keep smashing/fast-dropping... if you keep it down, they won't even have a chance to attack clear...
perfect opponent to practice your smashes...
09-27-2006, 01:37 AM #5Originally Posted by rotanimod
It think it's a common tactic at least in lower level doubles, not a singles tactic, to use attacking clears to push the weaker smasher/player to the rear court. Between you and your partner, is one of you clearly the stronger smasher/player?
09-27-2006, 03:24 AM #6
If your opponents keep clearing to you and your partner in doubles then you should thank them, because they have made your job easier-it is easier to win hitting down than hitting up. The fact that such clears are giving you and your partner trouble is probably that both of you cannot handle attacking clears and/or do not know how to put away those clears with an attacking game.
09-27-2006, 09:19 AM #7
Besides the strokes practice (smash, drop, etc), you need to also work on footwork and court coverage. If you and/or partner often caught off guard during a clear return, that means your guys having coverage problems, either due to footwork, fitness, edurance or team coordination, or a combo of above.
09-27-2006, 09:28 AM #8
I recommend you smash, smash and smash some more!
And make sure that you follow up your smashes to put more pressure on them and move into the net if you can.
Also it's a good opportunity to practice your fast drops and cross court drops. Sometimes you can catch people out by doing a couple of good smashes and then just when they are expecting another one you throw in a drop and catch them off guard, especially if you use some disguise and shape your body like you're going to do another smash.
Good luck. Hopefully next time you will beat them easily, then we can answer their questions about how to beat a pair who smash winners off all their clears!
09-27-2006, 10:02 AM #9
more placement in your smash might help.....smash down their backhand side, and their lift probably won't be a very good one. the front man's followup is also important.
and perhaps you should take note if their clears are out sometimes?
09-27-2006, 10:17 AM #10
You've got to mix up pace and angles. I tedn to really crank the shuttle, but after a while most people I play against do adjust.
Thus I start throwing in some half smashes and more specifically some different angles. I tend to go "chest hunting" followed by a steep angle or a cross court cut smash.
09-27-2006, 11:19 AM #11
I don't think the problem is to do with smashing.
You cleared and charged forward to finished them off, because you expected them to drop, weak smash, or clear back to half court. This strategy is fine against weaker opponents. But you can't do that with stronger players. Try not going so far forward after you clear.
09-27-2006, 11:50 AM #12
Stagger your stance, have one leg further in front so you can go backwards or forwards more easily.
09-27-2006, 02:00 PM #13Originally Posted by rotanimod
Instead you guys should reply them with a very fast and powerful attacking clear.... then we shall see what happen..
09-27-2006, 10:27 PM #14
You should just stop and wait in a defensive formation with your legs staggered like what Eurasian said. Do a splitstep/hop when the opponents reply. They're taking advantage of the fact that you guys expect a certain shots and jump your guns before you even know what shots they make. If you're a fast player, just wait confidently for their reply and only move when you're certain what shots they make (or when the shuttle left the opponent's racquet).
09-27-2006, 10:38 PM #15
IMO, if your shashes arent working, do the next best thing, a drop shot .
more drop shots mean more lifts from them which you will occasionally get one that doesnt reach the back court and thereby be able to uber OHKO smash, or have your partner ready to netkill a bad netshot.
09-27-2006, 10:48 PM #16Originally Posted by t3tsubo
09-28-2006, 12:35 AM #17
Once in a tournament finals, my partner and I faced a very strong defensive team. They would clear nearly everything as if to just dare us to smash. We tried to take the offensive, but they returned everything well. So we decided to try playing their game. Instead of hitting down, we tried attacking clears or very high, deep defensive clears. We found their offense was not as good as their defense, and we were able to work the rally to where we could take control and get a much better set-up, and we ended up winning a match we would have surely lost if we had used more conventional strategy.
This doesn't always work, but some players will try to win on the strength of their defense. They may not be prepared to take it when it's given back to them.
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