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10-01-2006, 09:13 AM #35Originally Posted by taneepak
10-01-2006, 10:05 AM #36
in tennis before the eagle eye system was employed, most players seldom challenged the judge like mad even at game, set or match points in multi-million-dollar major events. badminton could be an even more gentleman game, like snooker and golf. play with grace, win or lose with grace. any game can deteriorate to be as nasty as NBA or NFL. fun to watch too. both sides are equipped with the freedom of playing all kinds dirty tricks allowed by rules in the game. and if it's too dirty to be protected by the rules, you get punished. so it's fine still and fair still.
Last edited by franxon; 10-01-2006 at 10:09 AM.
10-01-2006, 09:36 PM #37Originally Posted by samkool
For marketing purposes the 21 pt system ensures explicit changes in the scoreline the audience can follow vs. the old 15 pts where the service could be traded back & forth w/ no change in score until 1 player wins 2 rallies in a row.
I prefer the 15 pt system but can accept some changes need to be made to increase the appeal of the game.
But to support this... it's time to get serious about accurate and fair line calls and officiating. W/ 21 pt a wrong line call or officiating error does twice the dammage. Instead of being awarded a point ur opponent gets one total impact is 2 points difference!
Better get out the instant replay folks.
10-01-2006, 10:42 PM #38Originally Posted by franxon
10-02-2006, 12:34 AM #39Originally Posted by hollywood_t
i use the beach volleyball comparison due to the more individual nature of the sport, as opposed to a 6-person team.
i have yet to see the better team lose due to the rally scoring system.
Originally Posted by hollywood_t
Originally Posted by hollywood_t
10-02-2006, 12:38 AM #40Originally Posted by chikkubhai
The 21 system is too quick
while Players have not sweated yet, the game is over
The bottom line is CHANGE it to the 15 score system.....
10-02-2006, 01:03 AM #41Originally Posted by indra
Originally Posted by samkool
10-02-2006, 02:18 AM #42
FYI, the NSS was given a one year trial period before it was officially adopted this May, 2006, at the same time the 2006 Thomas Cup Challenge Round was played in Japan. It was adopted with 100% of the votes. So, if you must blame some one, go after your own national badminton association officials who voted for the new system. All the votes from Canada, USA, Japan, Denmark, England, etc., etc. voted for the NSS. The best way to revert back to the old system is to go after your own officials and curse them for selling you out.
10-02-2006, 04:21 AM #43
how about 5x21 for men, and 3x21 for women, like tennis?
make mixed 3x25.
10-02-2006, 04:52 AM #44Originally Posted by franxon
I hope IBF realizes this good point..
Originally Posted by taneepak
Badminton is the fastest raquet sport and needs you warmed up... In comparison it seems that unlike volleyball where you have 6 people playing on each side with best of 3 or 5 sets and in TableTennis you have 5x21 it absolutely makes sense to have atleast 5x21 for mens... This is one good suggestion, way better than the current scenario where it adds way too much pressure especially at the end,
BUT badminton actually stands out with the 15 points system where the players have a chance to come back if they make a mistake.
We have alllllll clearly witnessed how it changed from a fun sport to an agressive sport in WC06. I hope whatever happens happens for the best of badminton
10-02-2006, 11:04 AM #45Originally Posted by twobeer
10-02-2006, 10:19 PM #46Originally Posted by taneepak
Btw, is there already a petition that we can sign? And if not, should I bother to make one? (Like, a layout similar to a guestbook?) I mean, an online petition probably won't gain too much attention from IBF unless you get like...thousands of signatures...
10-02-2006, 10:48 PM #47Originally Posted by Aozora
1. That 75% of total votes at a special general meeting approves the change. Any such approved change can only be effective from May, 2011.
2. That 100% of total votes at a special general meeting approves the change. In this case the change can be effective immediately.
The right way to do this is for each badminton club in Canada affiliated to Badminton Canada to put in writing in a letter to Badminton Canada. With all the inputs from its affiliated clubs, Badminton Canada should then take a position reflecting the wishes of the majority of the clubs. Badminton Canada should then vote the way the clubs want it to vote. This should be the way.
10-02-2006, 10:59 PM #48
Hmm...I wish I could do something, but since I'm not in any affiliated badminton clubs... T_T I shall hope for the best then... =) thx taneepak, useful information =D
10-03-2006, 03:26 AM #49Originally Posted by taneepak
The problem is even wider than the NSS itself. The problem is: how the IBF (or BWF) works, what is their mechanism of making decisions, who and how generates all these ideas which then are "adopted with 100% of the votes". I can agree that some of the ideas are maybe not bad, or even good (NSS is one of the worst, IMHO), but the way how they are invented, discussed and promoted is not good - it is simply wilful and not professional.
10-03-2006, 04:22 AM #50Originally Posted by taneepak
IMO these are very autocratic and very badly managed organizations. If one tries to bring up a different opinion or idea than the powers of these organizations, you better be ready to forget about being part of any badminton activity in the future; or they will make it "hell" for you to continue playing or being involved. I have seen too many examples.
Why do you think all these votes are 100% to one side? How often do you see in a true democratic society having 100% voting to one opinion, and zero votes for dissenting opinions? After the experimantation period was over, did the IBF take a vote on the 5x7 system? I doubt it. Was anybody allowed to propose the 5x7 to be voted on? I doubt it.
Last edited by dropper; 10-03-2006 at 04:36 AM.
10-03-2006, 08:19 AM #51
Having gone through all the posts, I think the majority of us agreed that the NSS system is not good for the game. However I think most of us also agreed that NSS may still be acceptable if the objectives of increase TV coverage, and increase sponsorships is achieved. Have anyone any data to indicates that TV coverage and sponsorship is on the increase?
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