A look back on the 21 point rally system after WC06

**Aozora** · 10-11-2006, 06:21 PM

yay, we went from IBF (also International Boxing Federation) to WBF (World Boxing Federation)!!! and we can now also be associated with the World Bridge Federation...too little acronyms for so many things =/

I tried the NSS and I didn't feel too much difference since I'm still playing badminton either way, but...now it's even harder to keep score T_T Also, I may not be qualified to comment on this since I never had any coaching for myself, but...one of the changes that came out was about allowing coaching during games. Again, I have no experience in this, but I think being able to think for yourself in a game is important in badminton...iunno, just a thought.

**chikkubhai** · 10-18-2006, 01:01 AM

Those who have witnessed the experienced MD TonyGunawan and WijayaCandra Finesse in JP Yonex 2006 Open should also have seen how they changed their game plan to a full power game to quickly finish off. The games were completely different, as they realized that they would rather not withstand longer durations with much younger players. They completed their games in less than half hours using the 21 point rally system... So quickly is yet another reason to change the rally point scoring system.

Hats off ZN who displayed amazing consistent rallies, the only good game to boast of in the Japan open 06. TH singles was a disappointment though which also completed really quickly, the whole of the tournament ended in less than the ~4 hours some times its the time taken for a single tennis match, if WBF is thinking of a reason for promoting badminton for example with more people wanting to come to see the games (for more time) or for more commerical time with the rally point scoring system then they have done a mistake. Wow Iam finding too many reasons to change the rally point scoring system, bad for me for fault finding.

**shuttlehead** · 10-20-2006, 11:45 PM

I discovered badminton less than a year ago. I love the game and wish that I had started playing sooner. I now play 8-9 hrs a week. Since I only played 15 pt. scoring at the local club for about 2 mos. I didn't miss it when 21 pt, scoring was introduced. I now play mostly singles and some doubles using ralley scoring two days a week and doubles only using 2 hand scoring two days a week. I prefer ralley scoring because it is has a faster momentum, is better exercise, and I don't have to wait as long to get a court. There is less time for muscles to cool down between games. I would like to see the win by 2 provision removed and have sudden death added. I believe badminton is best served when it is allowed to evolve along its own path with its own rules rather than trying to imitate another sport.

**Neil Nicholls** · 10-21-2006, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by andymcg

I have done my research...if indeed the IBF council voted for the system, then these are the people that voted:
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Rudy Hartono - Indonesia
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Shame on him.......

**krisss** · 02-18-2009, 09:05 AM

Sorry to dig up this old thread:O

But what are people views on the new current scoring system?

I personally am still hating it - and think that the BWF chould change them back

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I just wanted to find out what people views are now?

**ctjcad** · 02-18-2009, 10:10 AM

..anyone else can still chime in on the NSS in this thread (which is a continuation from its original poll)..

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=39849

**krisss** · 02-18-2009, 11:28 AM

Thanks ^^ I will have a look

**shuttlehead** · 02-18-2009, 11:55 AM

Where is it written in stone that badminton has to follow the lead of other sports like tennis. Badminton is an ancient sport that has changed continuously. I played at a club that uses both rally and two hand. I learned that this club which was started about 1964 first used the ABCD serving system. A served once then B served once then C and D and back to A. I am not certain but I believe the points were awarded to the side that won the rally. Well this system was replaced by another system which was replaced by the 15 point two hand system and hear we are.

I think rally scoring is the best although I wouldn't mind trying the ABCD.

**chris-ccc** · 02-18-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by krisss

Sorry to dig up this old thread:O

But what are people views on the new current scoring system?

I personally am still hating it - and think that the BWF chould change them back

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I just wanted to find out what people views are now?

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krisss ... It's good that you have dug up this old thread. This is because we can now get opinions from newer Badminton players who have never played with the OSS (Old Scoring System) before.

Let's talk about the Singles Games first.

Many of my trainees who have never played with the OSS asked me to teach them how it was played. And this I did. And after they have tried it, I asked them...

Question: What do you think of the OSS compared to the NSS (New Scoring System)?

Answer: It's exactly they same, except that in the OSS, you don't get awarded a point when it's 'Service Over' to you. No wonder the NSS is extended to 21 points. It is to cover the extra points gained at 'Service Overs'.

It's good to hear such a simple explanation from them.

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**gamepurpose** · 07-20-2009, 03:15 PM

either system is ok to me.
I think New one is more like...
I guess we just want best of the best, we want players now a day to train hard to make no mistake and able to clear out their mind when they playing a match (nervous, scared, worried, and etc ...)
and some1 mention it way back then, that OSS is just too long. Especially first round, if the tournament is just too big, you might not able to finish the first round in one day. And we all know times are money to some of the players. Therefore, we won't able to have big tournaments with whole lots of people with OSS, and have to limit the amount of players.
And I do want to see or go to big tournaments, so that you meet more people and learn something new.
If anyone think they can donate some money in gamepurpose's foundation please do. All the money will be contribute to me and me only >.< so that I can travel other country and watch the big tournament. Rather than staying in USA, I think the usa open was a joke. this might offend some people, but yea It was small, not whole lot of top players join and play.

**Deathsticks** · 07-20-2009, 07:01 PM

i think this system is a yes for any attacking player
for 21 point system you would always want to atk
idk about 15 sys but id say both

**shuttlehead** · 07-21-2009, 01:17 AM

Rally Scoring System has been a big success where I play. Two hand scoring seems like something from the distant past. Once in a while a player shows up who has never played rally scoring. No big deal. A few waves of the hand and five minutes playing time and they have the hang of it. It's really a very simple scoring method.
Now if we could only hurry up and replace those old feather shuttles with a standard nylon shuttle the game would improve even more. The Yonex 2000 shuttles are a big improvement over feathers. Maybe this will be the first official nylon tournament shuttle?

**gustaff** · 07-22-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by shuttlehead

Rally Scoring System has been a big success where I play. Two hand scoring seems like something from the distant past. Once in a while a player shows up who has never played rally scoring. No big deal. A few waves of the hand and five minutes playing time and they have the hang of it. It's really a very simple scoring method.
Now if we could only hurry up and replace those old feather shuttles with a standard nylon shuttle the game would improve even more. The Yonex 2000 shuttles are a big improvement over feathers. Maybe this will be the first official nylon tournament shuttle?

You got to be kiddin' me? Nylon is nowhere near feather in feeling... Not even the YY2k...

Yes, it's a good replacement for beginners or people who think feathers are too expensive but they take away alot of what's special with badminton.

Honestly, I hate the feeling on impact with nylon shuttles...