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    Default Hendrawan to help Taufik Hidayat from 16-Oct-2006

    Greetings,

    After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

    I have just received this report.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

    ====== start report ======

    Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

    The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

    Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

    "Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

    "I will do my best," he said.

    Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

    "I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

    Source: Xinhua

    ====== endt report ======

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    [quote=chris@ccc]Greetings,

    After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

    I have just received this report.

    Cheers... chris@ccc
    [quote]


    Yes, the news is true.

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    They are replacing Joko Suprianto? Wow! Any idea where he is going to work now?

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    looks like a sad state of affair for INA singles.
    We got an blurry outlook response from hendrawan 'i'll do my best' and another coach (joko) who see job status (me me me) more important than helping his country (with pay). How ironic that hendrawan is still so patriotic to INA when he was a second class citizen for most of his life, denied of a visa until the dying minutes (literally) so he can fly out to play for indonesia in WC and then bring back a gold for INA.
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    Could you explain a bit about Hendrawan being 2nd class citizen? What does that mean? Indonesia has caste system like India or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    looks like a sad state of affair for INA singles.
    We got an blurry outlook response from hendrawan 'i'll do my best' and another coach (joko) who see job status (me me me) more important than helping his country (with pay). How ironic that hendrawan is still so patriotic to INA when he was a second class citizen for most of his life, denied of a visa until the dying minutes (literally) so he can fly out to play for indonesia in WC and then bring back a gold for INA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333
    Could you explain a bit about Hendrawan being 2nd class citizen? What does that mean? Indonesia has caste system like India or something?
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...i+Sukarnoputri

    please refrain from dwelling further into this topic, dont want the thread get closed Beside, it is mostly history now, i think things are improving

    I was only praising hendrawan, for being a women team coach that no one wanted and now men coach position as a last resort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc
    Greetings,

    After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

    I have just received this report.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

    ====== start report ======

    Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

    The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

    Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

    "Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

    "I will do my best," he said.

    Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

    "I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

    Source: Xinhua

    ====== endt report ======
    thx for sharing the news, chris@ccc...sounds interesting & i wonder which players will be under him ...I'm just wondering, who will take over his spot as the Women's Singles coach??..

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    cooler ........ dun try to spread provocation here boss ........

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    looks like a sad state of affair for INA singles.
    We got an blurry outlook response from hendrawan 'i'll do my best' and another coach (joko) who see job status (me me me) more important than helping his country (with pay). How ironic that hendrawan is still so patriotic to INA when he was a second class citizen for most of his life, denied of a visa until the dying minutes (literally) so he can fly out to play for indonesia in WC and then bring back a gold for INA.

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    that's old story ......... nowadays especially after this August 2006 (new citizen bill), all Indonesian-Chinese can use their own name into his/her Indonesia passport, also all Indonesians are allowed to have dual-citizenship till 18 years old (especially who was born at overseas), and after that should choose whether still want to be Indonesian or whatever.
    I talked with many Indonesian-Chinese here in Singapore who hold Permanent Resident status and asked why they still hold Indonesian Passport eventhough has lived more than 1o-years, they said coz they love Indonesia.

    you do not want this thread to be closed, but you yourself started by saying 2nd-class of Indonesian .........

    to moderator, you have better close this thread ... thanks to cooler.

    Quote Originally Posted by cooler
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...i+Sukarnoputri

    please refrain from dwelling further into this topic, dont want the thread get closed Beside, it is mostly history now, i think things are improving
    I was only praising hendrawan, for being a women team coach that no one wanted and now men coach position as a last resort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad
    thx for sharing the news, chris@ccc...sounds interesting & i wonder which players will be under him ...I'm just wondering, who will take over his spot as the Women's Singles coach??..
    another interesting thing is, based on this thread's heading, then i wonder how will Taufik's personal coach(Mulyo) feel abt Hendrawan joining the camp??..Specifically, what will Hendrawan's role be??..

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    [quote=By You][quote=chris@ccc]Greetings,

    After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

    I have just received this report.

    Cheers... chris@ccc


    Yes, the news is true.
    I think taufik's coach is mulyo handoyo......

    so how come hendrawan will be helping taufik.......as we known taufik is "bad boy" he only want listen to his coach (mulyo)... he is like "golden boy" for national team.......even Icuk sugiarto (eks natioanl player) he had to argued.......imposible if taufik want to hendrawan as his coach.....

    however, hendrawan's job is to replace joko's place as a coach.....
    so I think he will be coaching for sony dwi kuncoro.....because joko had to coached him (sony) before......

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    [quote=By You][quote=chris@ccc]Greetings,

    After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

    I have just received this report.

    Cheers... chris@ccc


    Yes, the news is true.
    I think taufik's coach is mulyo handoyo......

    so how come hendrawan will be helping taufik.......as we known taufik is "bad boy" he only want listen to his coach (mulyo)... he is like "golden boy" for national team.......even Icuk sugiarto (eks natioanl player) he had to argued.......imposible if taufik want to hendrawan as his coach.....

    however, hendrawan's job is to replace joko's place as a coach.....
    so I think he will be coaching for sony dwi kuncoro.....because joko had to coached him (sony) before......

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    Default Here's the article..

    ..indra, babonimut or anyone else, please feel free to jump in and help with the translation..thanks in advance.
    ================================================== =======
    http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/j...=1671&Itemid=2

    Hendrawan Siap Tangani Tunggal Putra
    Written by Antara News
    Monday, 16 October 2006

    Hendrawan Tertantang, Joko Jenuh, Tim inti Piala Sudirman ditentukan Juara
    dunia 2001 Hendrawan mengaku siap melatih tunggal putra Pelatnas Cipayung, meski tugas tersebut dinilainya cukup berat karena ia dituntut memperbaiki prestasi.


    "Ini sebuah tantangan bagi saya karena tuntutannya harus lebih baik dari sekarang," ujar Hendrawan di Jakarta, Senin.

    Hendrawan yang selama ini melatih tunggal putri pelatnas, diminta untuk menangani tunggal putra sejak salah satu pelatih tunggal putra Joko Supriyanto mengundurkan diri, Sabtu (14/10) lalu.

    "Saya akan coba semaksimal mungkin sampai 2008, karena sejak bersedia menangani tunggal putri pun hanya sampai 2008," kata Hendrawan yang mengaku agak berat meninggalkan para pemain tunggal putri.

    "Memang sampai sekarang mereka (tunggal putri) belum mencapai prestasi yang spektakuler, namun paling tidak sudah ada peningkatan. Tetapi rencananya penanganan putri akan dilanjutkan oleh Sandiarto asisten saya, jadi tidak masalah. Tetapi semuanya masih menunggu SK (Surat Keputusan)," tambahnya.

    Sementara itu saat dikonfirmasi atas penguduran dirinya, Joko Supriyanto mengatakan bahwa ia menyatakan mundur setelah ditawari untuk melatih tunggal putri.

    "Saya mundur karena merasa kurang `sreg` dengan posisi baru saya, melatih tunggal putri. Jadi karena digeser kesitu saya memilih untuk istirahat dulu, sudah jenuh," jelas Joko.

    Joko memperkirakan alasan ia digeser mungkin karena prestasi pemain tunggal putra yang ia latih, salah satunya Sony Dwi Kuncoro, tidak juga mengalami peningkatan.

    "Sejak Sony prestasinya menurun karena cedera, bahkan tahun ini saja ia absen dari delapan turnamen besar, saya merasa menjadi `sasaran tembak`," katanya.

    Usai pengunduran dirinya tersebut, Joko yang pernah membawa Taufik Hidayat menjadi juara Indonesia Terbuka dan Sony menjadi tigakali Juara Asia serta peraih medali perunggu Olimpiade Athena mengaku masih ingin beristirahat. "Belum ada rencana apa-apa," kata juara dunia 1993 itu.


    Tim bayangan

    Sementara itu, Ketua Sub Bidang Pelatnas PB PBSI Lius Pongoh menyampaikan pembentukan tim bayangan Piala Sudirman.

    Tim bayangan yang dibentuk berdasarkan nominasi yang diumumkan Juli lalu itu terdiri atas 21 pemain diantaranya lima pemain tunggal, tiga putra (Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso), dan dua putri (Adrianti Firdasari dan Fransisca Ratnasari).

    Dua pemain tunggal putri yang termasuk dalam nominasi, Pia Zebadiah dan Aprilia Yuswandari tidak termasuk dalam tim bayangan.

    Sektor ganda putra juga mengalami perubahan, semula tiga pasangan yakni Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yuliano, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan dan Flandy Limpele/Sigit Budiarto masuk dalam nominasi, tetapi pada tim bayangan pasangan Flandy/Sigit digantikan Hendra AG/Joko Riyadi.

    Perubahan juga terjadi pada ganda campuran yang semula menominasikan pasangan Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir dan Anggun Nugroho/Vita Marissa. Anggun/Vita akhirnya diganti oleh pasangan yang baru menjuarai Jepang Terbuka, Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa pada tim bayangan.

    Seperti tunggal putra, sektor ganda putri yang semula menominasikan tiga pasangan tidak mengalami perubahan dengan pasangan Jo Novita/Greysia Polii, Lita Nurlita/Nathalia Poluakan dan Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti.

    "Tim inti Piala Sudirman akan ditentukan Januari mendatang," ujar Lius.

    Kejuaraan dunia beregu campuran Piala Sudirman akan digelar di Glasgow, Skotlandia pada 10-17 Juni 2007.(*)
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    Default And here's a related article to why Joko left Pelatnas

    ..again indra, babonimut or anyone else, please feel free to do the translation..there's some very interesting points in the article and in a way sort of proof the presence of politics-in-play...thanks in advance..
    ================================================== ========
    http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/j...=1670&Itemid=2

    Joko Berontak
    Written by Jawa Pos
    Monday, 16 October 2006

    Tolak Latih Tunggal Wanita, Mundur dari Cipayung
    Pelatnas Cipayung bergolak. Setelah pemain ganda pria Sigit Budiarto meninggalkan kawah candradimuka bulu tangkis tanah air tersebut, kemarin giliran pelatih tunggal pria, Joko Suprianto, yang melakukan keputusan serupa.


    "Saya bukan lagi pelatih Pelatnas Cipayung, saya telah berhenti," kata Joko kepada Jawa Pos kemarin.

    Kenapa Joko berhenti? Pria asal Solo, Jateng, itu merasa keberadaannya di Cipayung sengaja dipinggirkan beberapa rekannya sesama pelatih dan pengurus pelatnas. Tanpa alasan yang jelas dan pembicaraan lebih dulu, dalam pertemuan di kediaman Ketua Umum PBSI, Sutiyoso, Sabtu (15/10) malam lalu, dia tiba-tiba diputuskan melatih tunggal wanita.

    "Kabid Binpres (Rudy Hartono, red) tidak pernah mengajak ngomong saya dalam masalah ini. Saya tidak bisa menerima keputusan tersebut, karena itu saya memutuskan berhenti," papar Joko.

    Untuk mengisi posisi yang ditinggalkan Joko, Hendrawan, yang sebelumnya melatih tunggal wanita, akan digeser ke tunggal pria. Posisi Hendrawan akan digantikan asistennya Sandiarto.

    Sejak menjadi pemain, Joko merasakan ada pergulatan kepentingan antarbeberapa kelompok di Pelatnas Cipayung. Ketika Icuk Sugiarto meninggalkan pelatnas sekitar setahun lalu untuk menjadi staf ahli Menpora, sejak saat itu Joko merasa karirnya di Cipayung hanya tinggal menunggu waktu. "Saya merasa sejak lama ditarget untuk meninggalkan Cipayung. Inilah puncaknya," aku Joko.

    Sementara itu, Rudy menyatakan bahwa keputusan pemindahan Joko ke tunggal wanita dengan tujuan meningkatkan prestasi bulu tangkis tanah air. Selama ini, Joko dinilai kurang mampu melahirkan juara di tunggal pria.

    "Dengan memberikan suasana baru di tunggal wanita, kami berharap Joko lebih baik. Eh, Joko malah mengundurkan diri. Kami tidak bisa menahannya karena dia mengaku jenuh," papar Rudy.

    Namun, keputusan PBSI memindahkan Joko ke tunggal wanita menyisakan sedikit tanda tanya. Pada sektor yang tengah terpuruk seperti ganda wanita, seharusnya dibesut pelatih yang handal. Kalau selama ini Joko dinilai kurang sukses melahirkan juara, PBSI seharusnya memiliki pertimbangan kalau hal itu malah akan membuat tunggal wanita makin terpuruk.

    Pemindahan Joko memang sedikit berbau "penggusuran". Seharusnya, PBSI berani mengambil sikap tegas memecat Joko jika memang dia dianggap tidak berprestasi. Sistem reward and punishment harus dilakukan secara transparan, agar setiap penghuni Pelatnas Cipayung memiliki tanggung jawab tinggi pada tugasnya.

    Pengurus PBSI pun tidak seharusnya hanya pintar menuntut. Mereka harus lebih fokus dalam memberikan perhatian pada pelatih dan pemain pelatnas. Rudy yang paling bertanggung jawab pelatnas melahirkan juara, sangat jarang berkunjung ke pelatnas. Dalam satu bulan, belum tentu dia datang sekali ke sana. (ang)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@ccc
    Greetings,

    After all that has been said about the Japan Open 2006 Men Singles Final on 15-Oct-2006, Lin Dan Vs Taufik Hidayat... Hendrawan will be helping Taufik from now on.

    I have just received this report.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

    ====== start report ======

    Indonesian Badminton names new coach for men's singles

    The Indonesian Badminton Association has named a former world champion as the new men's singles coach replacing Joko Supriyanto.

    Hendrawan, the world champion in 2001, said Monday he is ready to take his new job at the national training camp in Cipayung, East Jakarta.

    "Big challenges are facing us ahead and I have been asked to make things better than today," said Hendrawan, who was previously the coach for female shuttlers.

    "I will do my best," he said.

    Meanwhile, Joko said he resigned from the national training camp and refused a new job to coach female players.

    "I resigned because I didn't feel comfortable with my new job to coach women's singles," Joko was quoted by the national Antara news agency as saying.

    Source: Xinhua

    ====== endt report ======
    But i guess Mulyo will still be Taufik's coach ,right?

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    Default Mulyo Handoyo is still TH's close friend/mentor

    Quote Originally Posted by kemana
    But i guess Mulyo will still be Taufik's coach ,right?
    Hi kemana,

    I think TH's dear friend and mentor Mulyo Handoyo would still be TH's closest personal advisor/coach.

    But when TH plays in matches for Indonesia's PBSI glory, perhaps Hendrawan has more say.

    But will TH listen to Hendrawan ??? .

    Anyway, Hendrawan is to help all Indonesian Men Singles players to achieve/perform with better results.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

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    Default Indonesian Translator Required for Post#13 & #14

    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad
    ..again indra, babonimut or anyone else, please feel free to do the translation..there's some very interesting points in the article and in a way sort of proof the presence of politics-in-play...thanks in advance..
    As ctjcad asked...... we also hope that someone could translate Post#13 & #14 for us.

    Cheers... chris@ccc

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