01-16-2008, 02:15 AM #103
01-16-2008, 02:16 AM #104
chris, i think that is because i always believe that philosophy transcends boundaries. there is basic truth about how human beings are in all philosophy. we are all really alike in our most basic emotions.
01-16-2008, 02:19 AM #105
birdwood, that picture have been there for quite sometime. just that nobody cared to look before all this mystery revealing, name guessing fiasco. hahahahah
01-16-2008, 02:25 AM #106
01-16-2008, 02:43 AM #107
01-16-2008, 02:45 AM #108
01-16-2008, 03:05 AM #109
maybe should send my kisses via pos laju (malaysia's own express courier which literally translates into "fast post")
i dont mind. chit chat keep the lethargic feelling over mundane day to day routine away. chitty chitty bang bang away!!!!!
01-16-2008, 03:07 AM #110
The make up of where most the BC members are from should explain it..
Last edited by ctjcad; 01-16-2008 at 03:16 AM.
01-16-2008, 03:49 AM #111
As to the term, "English-educated", some go to Chinese medium school, where the medium of instruction is all in Mandarin.
All subjects, except language are taught in CHinese. Then in secondary school, government school - language of instruction is in Malay, the national language. Hence the term "Chinese educated". Their English, normally are not so good, unless they learn up after they finish school.
Nowadays, non-chinese parents also send their children to chinese medium schools, so they know extra language.
Those who are "English educated", go to national schools, where medium of instruction from primary level is in Malay. All subjects are taught in Malay. Recent couple of years, they have some like Maths & Science in English too. Level of English is higher. These ppl, cant read & write in Chinese, even if they are Chinese, but better in English & more western influenced.
The term "English educated " stayed cos in British colonization time, everything was taught in English. So, we didnt change it to "Malay educated".
Good example is LWW & KKK. KKK said before he cant read & write in Chinese. He went to a school that's good in English ("mubaligh school, they call it, where nuns & priests used to teach in British days).
The main difference is : "Chinese educated" can write & read Chinese, not that good in English, very good in Maths (China system). Values, some follow more China/Taiwan/HK influence, more traditional, listen to Chinese songs.
Very good example is TBH - he doesnt understand questions posed in English, only Malay & Chinese.
This is more pronounced in those who also go to private Chinese medium schools at secondary level (high school)- all subjects taught in Chinese. They normally further college studies in Taiwan/Spore.
"English educated" good in English & Malay, cannot read & write in Chinese.
watch more English language shows, think more like Westerner - they listen English songs. All this due to education system
THere's also Tamil medium schools, everything taught in Tamil.
And I give credit to Azabar, not many Msians nowadays, whichever race, can write well in English anymore- standard has dropped. They can speak but writing skill, kaput.
Got understanding??? (Msian broken Eng) If not, Aza, tolong cakap lagi sekali dlm British punya English, he he
Last edited by eaglehelang; 01-16-2008 at 03:56 AM.
01-16-2008, 04:01 AM #112
during the times of my parents, i believe yes, everybody who went to school usually can speak good english and write good english. nowadays, at least in malaysia, schools in the cities and in big towns can have students that are proficient in english. this is because they use it outside of schools too, in day to day life. and american music and american movies are the staple of these teenagers's language diet. but those from smaller towns, rural villages, tamil schools, chinese schools and religious based schools have students that study english but they are not very proficient. this is because they never use it outside of school and in fact sometimes they don't even use it much IN school. only recently the government made it compulsory for students to learn maths and science in english because when the students further their studies in university, all revision books and research journals are in english. failure to master the language during early years in school made it harder for these students to master the course that they have chosen in university. but at the same time, if all subjects was taught in english, then where does the official language of malaysia stand. so only maths and science are taught in english while the rest is in bahasa malaysia. and kids nowadays are not really into books. except maybe harry potter. hehehehehe
but all in all, almost everybody knows basic english like yes, no, thank you, hello, bye-bye.
01-16-2008, 04:11 AM #113
^^Yes, and this seems to apply..^^
..to most British/England colonized countries, esp. in Asia (e.g. S'pore, HK & M'sia)...
01-16-2008, 03:35 PM #114
01-16-2008, 03:50 PM #115
Many thanks to eaglehelang, ctjcad, and Leen for explaining to me. I used to know someone from Masia. Now I'll need to go through your words and do a little research to fully understand. Maybe ask around to see anyone badminton player here knows all the differences. But it's safe to say that the gaps among different schools or among different countries as a mater of fact, are narrowing in the age of internet and globalization
01-16-2008, 10:08 PM #116
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01-16-2008, 11:14 PM #118
then the hills of ipoh will welcome you when the time comes...
01-17-2008, 06:44 AM #119
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