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    Quote Originally Posted by Syaoran_Style
    They also gave up women's single because Camilla Martin stopped her career !
    That's for sure. 100 points to Tarek!

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    Organisers want to field in players that can match the players from MAS, INA and CHN. therefor they decided to play in MD MS and XD since Denmark there has a change to deliver what it takes to beat the asians and actually win titles. 3 Years ago it was WS since Camilla martin played at that time, and no offense to Tine but she still needs that little bit to be able to beat the chinese ladies. I predict Denmark will get no titles this year since the field is very strong. Biggest change will be in MD where the change is 50/50 since i think Cai/fu are a bit overrated and if played right is beatable.

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    Waah, Denmark invited the FOURTH best Indonesian pair... [after Markis Kido-Hendra S., Luluk-Alven, Rian-Eng Hian]... or FIFTH best if you include Tony-Chandra... They need some sort of punching bags for Jens-Martin eh? ... Hopefully by severely beating the Indonesian pair, that will convince the Denmark spectators that their doubles team truly are good or something...

    Ok. I guess this is THEIR tournament... They can invite anyone they want... even punching bags... Ha ha ha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna
    Waah, Denmark invited the FOURTH best Indonesian pair... [after Markis Kido-Hendra S., Luluk-Alven, Rian-Eng Hian]... or FIFTH best if you include Tony-Chandra... They need some sort of punching bags for Jens-Martin eh? ... Hopefully by severely beating the Indonesian pair, that will convince the Denmark spectators that their doubles team truly are good or something...

    Ok. I guess this is THEIR tournament... They can invite anyone they want... even punching bags... Ha ha ha...
    Remember the world champions Cai/Fu and LWW/CTF are in as well. Won't be that easy for the Danish MDs...
    And the decision is up to PBSI who they want to send...

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    Cool Wow, wow and wow!

    Doesn't matter the outcome, at least this event will be played under the friendly environment and what else can we ask for when you have Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei and Peter Gade in MS! It's better that Taufik doesn't show up as his hostility against Lin Dan may spoil the event. For once, I may actually enjoy the duel among LCW/LD/PG, make sure Li Yongbo is not invited too :-)
    Wow, what a lineup and lets hope there's no last minute changes(meaning China better win the Asian Games else all players most probably will be under curfew).

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    Quote Originally Posted by yannie
    Remember the world champions Cai/Fu and LWW/CTF are in as well. Won't be that easy for the Danish MDs...
    And the decision is up to PBSI who they want to send...
    Really? PBSI decide? I thought it is by invitation only... I don't really know how Copenhagen Masters organize their participants. Last time during the Invitational World Cup and China Masters, the organizers give a list of invitation, so a national association such as PBSI cannot randomly send an unfamous player.... [fair enough, actually...]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna
    Waah, Denmark invited the FOURTH best Indonesian pair... [after Markis Kido-Hendra S., Luluk-Alven, Rian-Eng Hian]... or FIFTH best if you include Tony-Chandra... They need some sort of punching bags for Jens-Martin eh? ... Hopefully by severely beating the Indonesian pair, that will convince the Denmark spectators that their doubles team truly are good or something...

    Ok. I guess this is THEIR tournament... They can invite anyone they want... even punching bags... Ha ha ha...
    On the contrary, AG/Joko nearly beat Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen in the first round of the Denmark Open Technically speaking, AG/Joko are PBSI's third pair right now and Ko Herry IP himself had mentioned to me that this pair will see a lot of actions in the coming year. PBSI needs to do so because of Sudirman Cup and of course the Thomas Cup and Olympics 2008.

    So, AG/Joko are NOT punching bags. They just lack the experience of playing and beating the top pairs.

    Oh...Rian/Eng Hian and Tony/Candra are not even in Pelatnas right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania
    On the contrary, AG/Joko nearly beat Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen in the first round of the Denmark Open Technically speaking, AG/Joko are PBSI's third pair right now and Ko Herry IP himself had mentioned to me that this pair will see a lot of actions in the coming year. PBSI needs to do so because of Sudirman Cup and of course the Thomas Cup and Olympics 2008.

    So, AG/Joko are NOT punching bags. They just lack the experience of playing and beating the top pairs.

    Oh...Rian/Eng Hian and Tony/Candra are not even in Pelatnas right now.
    What was just mentioned are not new news for me... Yes, I know Joko-AG fought 3 games against Lars-Jonas and that they reached the finals of Bitburger Open. They are not a hopeless pair. Don't get me wrong.

    I also know that Rian-Eng Hian are more highly ranked than Joko-AG and that they beat them quite decisively in the lopsided Dutch Open finals. And Tony-Chandra can surely take care of Joko-AG, if the situation presents itself. Thus even though they are surely Pelatnas' #3 pair right now, they are the de-facto number 4 or number 5 team of Indonesia...

    If Copenhagen organizers do not want punching bags, then they could insist on inviting the other FOUR pairs [of Indonesian descent] that are better than Joko-AG. As of now, I stay uncorrected. The organizers just want to look for a relatively easy prey for Jens-Martin!

    Joko-AG can prove the organizers wrong in a few weeks... [and I hope they do!]... by beating Jens-Martin and the English pair... If so, then Indonesian Men's Doubles are really strong in 2007...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna
    Joko-AG can prove the organizers wrong in a few weeks... [and I hope they do!]... by beating Jens-Martin and the English pair... If so, then Indonesian Men's Doubles are really strong in 2007...
    I think PBSI gets to say who they want to send. Each country being invited is probably alloted a slot in MS and MD. In a way, PBSI do not want the top 2 pairs to be exhausted after just coming back from the Asian Games. They have the first Super Series in Malaysian coming up in mid January to aim for. Therefore, PBSI sends AG/Joko who will not compete in any event whatsoever during December.

    Similary, for MS, Simon definitely can use the two matches in his group to prove himself that he's already to take on the best.

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    Default Hmm, i'm on the same boat..

    Quote Originally Posted by badMania
    I think PBSI gets to say who they want to send. Each country being invited is probably alloted a slot in MS and MD. In a way, PBSI do not want the top 2 pairs to be exhausted after just coming back from the Asian Games. They have the first Super Series in Malaysian coming up in mid January to aim for. Therefore, PBSI sends AG/Joko who will not compete in any event whatsoever during December.

    Similary, for MS, Simon definitely can use the two matches in his group to prove himself that he's already to take on the best.
    ..my thinking as well.. The last couple of yrs, for MD event, if i'm not mistaken PBSI had sent at *most* their 3rd tier pair-ie. 2004-Eng Hian/Flandy, 2005-Flandy/Alvent(scratch pair)..
    Also, re how the CM's organizer decide on who to/not to invite, i don't know what is/are their criteria(s), but personally i don't think they "intently" look for "easy meat" or "punching bags"...My feeling is the event is presented more for the enjoyment of the Danish badminton fans than anything else..Who knows, maybe a Tony G. sighting is on the menu?!?!..
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    i just hope that someone records the matches for us. the quality of the vids for the 2005 edition was outstanding, and even though i didn't understand the commentary (it was in danish, and by jonas no less!), i really enjoyed watching all the games. would be great if TG/CW were invited as well, i know they'll give everyone a run for their money ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania
    I think PBSI gets to say who they want to send. Each country being invited is probably alloted a slot in MS and MD. In a way, PBSI do not want the top 2 pairs to be exhausted after just coming back from the Asian Games. They have the first Super Series in Malaysian coming up in mid January to aim for. Therefore, PBSI sends AG/Joko who will not compete in any event whatsoever during December.

    Similary, for MS, Simon definitely can use the two matches in his group to prove himself that he's already to take on the best.

    Yes, if PBSI gets to say whom they want to send, then this makes a lot of sense... Good for Joko-AG and Simon... We need all the firepower we can have in order to compete strongly in the 2008 Thomas Cup... [in Jakarta]... Whatever the result, we shall put up a good fight!

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    Not sure BAM will send LCW as he has stress fracture on foot reported ... I hope at least China stick to its promise sending Lin Dan, will be nice to replace LCW with Lee Hyun Il but unlikely to happen. I think BAM will send either Wong Choon Hann or Kuan Beng Hong to replace LCW.
    Yannie, any insdie info about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han
    Not sure BAM will send LCW as he has stress fracture on foot reported ... I hope at least China stick to its promise sending Lin Dan, will be nice to replace LCW with Lee Hyun Il but unlikely to happen. I think BAM will send either Wong Choon Hann or Kuan Beng Hong to replace LCW.
    Yannie, any insdie info about this?
    Obviously not likely Lee Hyun Il is a Korean. Faint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han
    I think BAM will send either Wong Choon Hann or Kuan Beng Hong to replace LCW.
    Yannie, any insdie info about this?
    Really? No info about it yet, but I will try to dig from my sources although I still think they will send LCW. Hmm, will be interesting if KBH comes.. KBH vs Simon I don't think it's WCH again, the Danish audience needs to see some new faces.

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    Then Lee huyin ill needs to play better than last time he entered Copenhagen Masters . He was clearly unmotivated even if he was rank 5 that year (2003). Gade wiped the floor with him and won 15-0 15-3, very big dissapointment for the danish crowd.

    To answer the question who they invite, they try to inv the best players from each country to get the most exciting matches and the most quality. But some countries decide to send 2nd ranked players since this tournament has no world ranking points and is placed at a time where lots of players are preparing for bigger tournaments. So its not the hosts fault that you will se the worlds number 1 against number 26, however I cant remember when the matches in Copenhagen Masters havent been exciting, except that one with Lee hying ill. WCH once told in an interwiev that he enjoyed the tournament a lot since it had a friendly and relaxed atmospheres. I see this tournament as a tournament where players can actually "enjoy" playing badminton without no pressure and without thinking on money, ranking points and etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erin_hakkinen
    Obviously not likely Lee Hyun Il is a Korean. Faint.
    Of course BAM can't send Lee Hyun Il, I know he's Korean but the organiser certainly can invite Lee Hyun Il to replace LCW, that was what I meant.

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