Taufik: Lin Dan arrogant

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  1. ants

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    OLYMPIC champion Taufik Hidayat has launched an extraordinary attack on China’s world No 1 Lin Dan, calling him arrogant and widely disliked by other players.

    Taufik, the defending Asian Games champion, also announced that Doha would be his last Asiad.

    “I don’t like Lin Dan,” he said here. “He’s just a good player – off the courts I don’t think he’s a good person. Many players don’t like Lin Dan. He’s arrogant and he doesn’t talk to you.

    “I know he’s a good player, yes, he’s the world No 1, but he’s not nice to other players.”

    Taufik has the reputation of being the bad boy of badminton, with a history of temper tantrums.

    But Indonesia’s top player, fettered as a superstar at home and married to a daughter of the chairman of the nation’s sports committee, insists he is misunderstood.

    “People keep asking if I’m a bad boy and I say no, I’m not,” the 25-year-old said.

    “I think it’s funny – I don’t think I am.”

    At the last Asian Games four years ago in Busan, he held up the showpiece team final for two hours, throwing down his racquet and walking off, upset over a line call.

    Officials and teammates had to coax him back onto court, before South Korea went on to down the Indonesians.

    A Taufik storm threatened again in August in South Korea, when, annoyed by line calls, he considered quitting a match.

    He went one step further in Hong Kong a month later, picking up his bags in an apparent protest over the calls and walking out of his quarter-final against Lin Dan after only five points.

    He was docked five world rankings as punishment, but remained unrepentant, calling on the sport’s governing body to modernise the game and install cameras to eliminate such controversies.

    Taufik has been sidelined with a back injury for much of this year but is again finding his form.

    “I won the gold medal at the Busan Games and I hope to win it again at these Asian Games,” said Taufik, the 2005 world champion.

    “This will be the last Asian Games for me, I’m getting too old.”

    Taufik defeated India’s Anup Sridhar in the first singles match in the men’s team badminton on Thursday, helping Indonesia to a 5-0 win.

    The men’s singles event begins on Dec 5.
     
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    i know that LD was nice to Ants;):D
     
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    No comments from me. Hehehe.. know both players. Some Say taufik arrogant , some say super Dan... Its all about the Media.
     
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    hehe.. definitely taufik is a bad boy as what ants told me but its not because of his tantrums on the court... but i wont say the reason... let you guys find out much later....hehe...

     
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    LMAO! The pot is definitely calling the kettle.
     
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    Did i say he is a bad boy? Heheh.. i just say that he is naughty. There is difference between Bad and Naughty. But he does have a "bad Boy" Image.. but not Bad.
     
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    Taufik IS arrogant

    I am commenting regarding what you wrote...obviously...well taufik must be talking about himself cuz he is the arrogant one...he is also self-centred and selfish...He hates to lose, especially against the Chinese team...He shouldnt blame anyone when he loses...like the line judges for example...how unsportsmanlike...GROW UP!!...shame on you, i do not like watching him play at all...All the best and good wishes to the Chinese players..
     
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    both of them are arrogant LCW and LHI are the best :D :p :D
     
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    Look at the bigger picture. Taufik is fighting on many fronts, on and off the court. It might work if LD allows it to bother him. Ask yourself why Taufik chose this precise moment to drop a bomb on LD instead of long before or after the Asian Games? Taufik is a smart cookie.
     
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    didnt know psychological warfare can be used in badminton tournaments
     
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    so?? in the end..whats the outcome?? backfired to TH in return!! wakaakkaka
     
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    To me, these words sound very arrogant.
     
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    Taufik's dirty tricks and Lin Dan's frustration

    it is just Taufik's dirty tricks. Saying such thing in news release is not only unprofessional but also should be sued legally.

    The purpose is obvious, just to crash Lin Dan mentally. It seemed working. Now Lin Dan got a little bit frustrated and also confused. Although Lin Dan just won the match against Taufik, Lin Dan played quite poor comparing his level of playing. He admitted that also. He may lost his target, because what Taufik said really hurt him. To verify all these, Lin Dan specially talked to Kuan Beng Hong, a Chinese in Malaysia team, asked him two questions, first, what exactly Taufik said, because Lin Dan himself doesn't understand English, second, whether it was true that so many players dislike him. Kuan told Lin that Taufik complained Lin never talk to him. Finally Lin Dan explained, he cannot speak English, Taufik cannot speak Chinese, how can they talk each other? They never talked a single word before, and Taufik never try to approach him either, how come it was Lin Dan's fault?

    The other thing bothers Lin Dan is that Bao CL was the national flag bearer. So many people asked Lin Dan why not Lin Dan. Which also affects Lin Dan a lot, he now thinks no matter how good you play, you still cannot be the flag bearer. And so many people don't know badminton, (most percentage of population) will think Bao CL is the best badminton player.

    So now it is the perfect time to test Lin Dan's mental toughness...

    There are always HUGE misunderstanding between Chinese players and players from other English speaking countries. The problem here is NOT personality, but LANGUAGEs, they cannot communicate each other. I read that Kenneth once said, that Chinese players seemed dumb to him, because when he spoke to them, they never response. I also read from Chen Yu that Kenneth was unfriendly, because when he (Chen Yu) approached Kenneth and told him a joke in English, but Kenneth looks stern and even not gave him an eye contact. I think the reason here could be either Chen Yu's English is so poor, or there is huge culture difference for them to understand each other.

    Same thing happened between Korean players and other countries, Because Chinese players, Korean players are not good in English. While Indian players, Indonesia players, Malaysian players, and Danes are all good at English. Second reason is that India, Indonesia, Malaysia were ruled by western counties, while China is always an independent country, and Korea was controlled by Japan for a while, so people in Mas, Ind, Ina can understand western culture, but Chn, Kor cannot.

    So if you insist this is personality, then it is the whole nation's personality. Look at all the international events, there are always bigger barrier between Chinese and western people than the barrier between MAS, INA, IND and western.
     
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    ok... ok... we understand the whole thing now
     
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    Taufik did it again

    after losing to Lin Dan, Taufik told journalists and reporters that "I love this game, but I dislike Lin Dan off court..."

    I think it is against law to attack other person's personality with or even without any evidence in public. Taufik is not just a bad boy, he's really disgusting.

    Can any people here tolerate others keep saying dislike you in public? I mean in real life, not here, virtual hyperspace.
     
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    I agree with some of your points like TH's reaction towards LD except the national flag bearer. If he really cares about the flag bearer position, then he just not mature enough. For me, I think LD wasn't the flag bearer that time because his coach might wanna avoid any injuries before the match starts. He's the No.1 badminton player now, why he still need to care about a flag bearer position anyway?
     
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    thanks yy_ling and jotaro for your reply.

    First Lin Dan is not my hero. If I were him, I would be happy for Bao, and to Taufik, I would take legal action. But Lin is just an ordinary human being, from his reply, he seems got hurt. That is his weakness.

    His coach has no power at all in the decision making process about who's the flag bearer. China got 150 golds last time even in Korea, the most difficult place to win for Chinese. and there is 0 golds from badminton men's team. When Lee YB was asked if Bao would be the flag bearer, LYB said impossible, and joking himself(LYB) wanted to be the flag bear too. China is not Indonesia, badminton is not that important.

    So why Bao CL? that's a good question. Some people here in this forum even suggested Fu HF, based on good looking. That's nonsense. Those people don't understand China sports. I think it is the politics and relationships. Even inside China men's singles, Bao is only ranked number 4. Why he keeps playing bigger role? Bao has special relationship with the top management. That's my hunch.

    Why he wants to be flag bearer? the answer is popularity. so simple. When you got more popular, you got more commercial time on TV, newspaper, or even street ads, everywhere, that means you earn much more money. Being the number 1 or winning the championship, should of course increase popularity in an ordinary way, but being a flag bearer, is more effective and so easy to do. That's the reason. Everyone wants to earn more money, and more famous, right. Being a flag bearer is the shortest cut.
     
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    I think its a great honour to be the flag bearer. Only natural Lin Dan feel such.... human reaction.
     

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