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Thread: What is wrong with LCW?
12-19-2006, 08:26 AM #69
in my opinion..i think he is over trained or pressure had ruined everything~!
12-19-2006, 12:40 PM #70
Lets see how Ronald Susilo or Kendrick Lee defend their title in the coming Singapore open, ops, I forgot, they need to win the title first before they can even defend
Why so critical of LCW, sure he has lost more than won over Lin Dan but how many players can even beat Lin Dan anyway? Even the great Taufik only won 1 out of 3 encounters during Asian Games and was considered as great success. Lin Dan is one of the great player, like it or not! LCW is an excellent player but not a great player yet.
Originally Posted by saugusli
12-19-2006, 06:50 PM #71
Agree with Han regarding LCW is an excellent player, playing very entertaining badminton, displaying excellent technique. LD is a great player, very consistent, super-fit, speed and trademark jump-smash (I would miss it age caught up with LD and he could no longer do it). After all LD has been ranked #1 for so many years and won the major portion of Open tourneys. It takes a huge effort to beat LD. TH is also a great player, calm and with excellent Back-hand smash and net-play, having won the more high profile tourneys. LD has beaten LCW in more finals than losing it, interesting if TH plays LCW in as many finals as LCW, wonder what the outcome would be?
12-19-2006, 08:26 PM #72
analysis from lcw follow the tournament that china, korea and indonesia join also.. LCW can't win at overseas... (For Malaysia Single Player almost like that)..
LCW won only at home... Different the Indonesia, China, Korea, Denmark Players... They can win to Overseas....
So, This is only warning from Malaysia players to improve the mentality....So LCW will win again the Malaysia Super Series.....difficult from TH, LD, BCL, CJ, etc to beat LCW at home...
Originally Posted by pjswift
12-19-2006, 08:46 PM #73Originally Posted by saugusli
Please dont degrade Malaysian players, in fact Hafiz Hashim had won AE2003 in England didn't he? Please dont generalise every Malaysian as winner at home soil, thats extremely unfair and disrespectful
12-19-2006, 08:49 PM #74
Han... Totally agree with you....
All Singapore Players not good.. Ivent import player also can get the great player... So forget it singapore....
So..I stay in singapore but I am not singaporean..hhhaa...
Now....Score TH and Lin Dan: 4-5....(1 times TH walk out at hongkong open) and Latest one, TH Beat LCW 2 times...(not at home)...so LCW always lost to TH, LD, etc at overseas (not at home)... At home LCW can beat TH, LD, etc.... so my conculation: LCW will be win again the malaysia super series..
Agree with you... Only LD and TH Great Players....
Specially to TH... If he got motivation anybody said: TH will champion...
LD Great Player because he is consistent players....
LCW great player..... I say No... He can the ranking no 2 because join alot of tournaments... Can see at IBF Website, LCW Record not consistent Players..Only won Malaysia Open...
TH Great Player because he won alot of tournaments and important tournaments (Asian Games 2002, Olimpic 2004, World Championship 2005, Asian Games 2006)...and TH targets right now: depend the Olimpic title and All England...
No Players right now Can win same as taufik hidayat....If he got All England...so No Players can same like taufik record....
For Example: Zo Jianhua: Got All England, Asian Games (2 times), world Championship but don't have Olimpic titles..
So If taufik can get All England Title... TH is the greatest Players....the legend players....
So sorry from Malaysia peoples... I know you are from Malaysia.. Always not convenience if anybody critical to your players..but you try to analysis the your personal players...so you can understand...
Originally Posted by Han
12-19-2006, 08:52 PM #75
Denmark Open, swiss open, chinese taipei ... At time no much china, Denmark and Indonesia Players join.....no the great players join..... so LCW at the tournament beat who... Tell me....
I know you are from Malaysia... So I am understand..
Originally Posted by Simp84
12-19-2006, 09:05 PM #76
So Again... I want to see the malaysian Players can beat the Indonesia player in Indonesia, beat china player in china, beat denmark player in denmark...., beat korean player in korea.
Because All players did that.. not malaysia players yet...
So I can said: Malaysia players can win not only at home...hhhaaa.
12-19-2006, 09:29 PM #77Originally Posted by saugusli
12-19-2006, 09:31 PM #78Originally Posted by saugusli
12-19-2006, 09:42 PM #79
I totally agree with Saugusli. You are absolutely right.
Of course there is so much reason us Malaysians, and other members of BC to listen to you. You have so much to back yourself up. I mean, you are the World Super Badminton Coach & Analyst from Singapore!!!
People, If you don't know Saugusli, please let me introduce you all to him.
Saugusli, the World Famous Sports Writer Extrodinaire for the World Wide circulating newspaper : B.S. Times
Dear Saugusli indepth analysis of Badminton sport is augumented by his long list of Academic Accomplishments among the more notable :-
1) Phd in Artistic Pottery,
2) Bachelor in Attention Writting, with honours
3) A Singapore cab drivers licence
4) Actually passing his O Levels English requirements
12-19-2006, 09:50 PM #80
With the current PBSI model (only sending players, if they think they can enter semi-final) & many young players choose to play abroad, it would be very difficult for Indo team to dominate badminton like in 90s. We can see clearly that Indonesia badminton performance has been going down hill for the past 5-6 years. PBSI is also very desperate to get Tony & Chandra to play for Olympic, because they know quite well that their chance of gold is pretty slim.
On the other hand, Malaysia has the $ resources & young players. KKK is definitely a good player. Dont be surprise, if you see KKK slaughter luluk/alven + kido/setiawan in Indo Open 07.
Last edited by jurong_twister; 12-19-2006 at 09:56 PM.
12-19-2006, 09:54 PM #81
Now the malaysian doubles players coach by rexi fr indonesia... single player coach by lin mau fr china...
without them, BAM can't develop the good players...BAM need import coach...
So what is your mention about LCW... He beat who at Swiss Open, Chinese taipei??
So LCW can win the All England,Olimpic, and World Champioanship that beat LD, TH, BCL, LYI.... It is good..But until now only can beat at home.. It right you know..
So I compare: LD can beat TH at Overseas... and....
MIX double China beat Liliana Natsir/Nova at Indonesian Open.... also Liliana Natsir/Nova Beat the Best China MIX Double at China Open..... So Both of them got best mentality...
TH beat Peter Gate, Lin Dan, and then Chen Hong at Singapore Open 2005..
TH beat BCL, LCW and Lin Dan at Asian Games 2006... It is very good mentality by Taufik Hidayat.... So I never seen this from malaysian players....
so discrimination....No....If Malaysian Players can change this perception... now Malaysia got good players with good mentality...
so... Finally...enough for me to argument of this.... It is Real.. Alots peoples said same like me... thanks
Originally Posted by Simp84
12-19-2006, 10:03 PM #82
so thanks.... I know Malaysian was angry... included you...hhhaaaa....but for me, I never angry with you jug8man... I only mention Malaysian Players..So don't critic myself....OK... I know you.
Originally Posted by jug8man
12-19-2006, 10:12 PM #83Originally Posted by saugusli
12-19-2006, 10:20 PM #84
Oh... I never said from this LCW Thread such as: idiot, Stupid, etc.... So weak mentality of you..OK..
I stop my arguments...no talk anymore about this thread...
OK.... All Malaysian Players the best...
Originally Posted by Simp84
12-20-2006, 12:04 AM #85Originally Posted by saugusli
The crowd support is always crucial. With LD and TH, their crowd support is never limited to the homeland. In Doha TH beat LD in no small way with the Indonesian crowd support. It's like he's playing in Indonesian Open. Similarly with LD, almost all places the CHN crowd support is very strong (even in Malaysia!) unless they get drowned out by INA crowd which I would rate as the most aggressive. INA does not just cheer for INA player ; they jeer at the opponent as well. At least CHN crowd only cheer for CHN. Unfortunately the CHN coach does the CHN crowd injustice by outdoing the INA crowd in harassing the opponent player. Malaysian crowd support is just like Malaysians: warm. Except on BCF!
I'm sorry you came under fire.
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