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Thread: What is wrong with LCW?
12-20-2006, 01:16 AM #86
Saugusli & Simp84: TH no doubt will be nicely remembered along side the likes of ZJH, Hartono, Morten Frost, Han Jian, and other badminton greats and we are blessed to have LD, TH and LCW playing in the same era. Just imagine without TH, LD will rule the game out right, and vice versa. True LCW has difficulty winning outside of MAS, I agree with Han that LCW is an excellent player but not a great player but very entertaining to watch. I watched LCW played in WC05 and since then he has improved so much, his skill in MO06 is superb and I envied those fortunate to see the game live. I treasured that video as much as ZJH demolishing Joko in AE90, among the best display in badminton matches. Just be thankful for internet, we get to watch the game far away from where they are played...and have a merry christmas to you all!
12-20-2006, 01:48 AM #87Originally Posted by saugusli
The thing here is, while we Malaysians here hold our Nations Badminton Pride at a very personal level (Which results in our personal reaction to your statements), YOU however DO NOT indicate any such pride or feelings thru your reaction for your own Nation's Badminton.
Thus, you hitting us where it hurts would only invite us to hit you where it hurts you the most. Your own self.
I don't really have any problems with Singapore Badminton. And I'm very sure you have nothing to do with Singapore Badminton as well. Due to your lack of involvement in 1) Singapore Badminton, 2) Malaysian Badminton, and 3) Any known relation to respectable Badminton what so ever, Perhaps you should just stop, think for a second over what you are doing and what you are saying, and the impression that YOUR behaviour gives about Singapore Badminton People.
You are tarnishing the hardwork of other Singaporean BC members such as Loh, Aerotus, Sealman and etc,...........
12-20-2006, 01:59 AM #88
For LCW to finish runner-up many times to LD is nothing to be ashamed off. LD dominated 2006 with so many wins, that even players like PG, BCL, CH play second fiddle to LD. MAS is a small country, to produce player like LCW that can take a set from LD in many finals and beat LD in MO06 is quite an achievement. INA be careful, if TH quit, who do you have coming up, Tommy is a future prospect that's all. Same for MAS too if LCW quit. For China, that is quite different. If LD pulled a stunt like TH did in taking time off in 2006, LD would lose his place in Team China. China has so much depth, that CH who would be #1 in most countries could not even make the team. And XXZ could not defend his crown in WC05, that is a shame. And both are still world class players! And what about Gong Wie Jie, twice world junior champ, where is he now, disappeared from the radar? If Gong belongs to any country other than China, he will be groomed to be their #1. Therefore, you cannot really compare LCW to TH and LD, both TH and LD are really a class above the rest. LCW has improved so much since WC05, I wonder how much more can he improve. His technique, corss-court smash, deception, speed, stamina are great...I still think he lacks a power smash. And I think LD shows too much respect for TH and not much for LCW...just my thought.
12-20-2006, 02:02 AM #89
Ya...Its seem like Ina has only taufik hidayat...And i don't see any other single players,so i think Ina should be careful coz Taufik can;t play forever but is a fact that taufik really make ina proud...
12-20-2006, 02:03 AM #90
Just realized Saugusli is not Singaporean. It's a smart thing retaliated everything directly and not towards Singapore Badminton, eh Loh???
If LCW is mentally weak, that would make myself and almost everybodyelse a retard!
12-20-2006, 02:27 AM #91Originally Posted by saugusli
If he has teammates abt the same lvl as him, he would take as much title as LD already dude! So stop making fun of yrself by talking trash abt Malaysian players like u know them well enough!!!
Last edited by zqloy; 12-20-2006 at 02:32 AM.
12-20-2006, 02:31 AM #92Originally Posted by jug8man
12-20-2006, 02:35 AM #93Originally Posted by zqloy
12-20-2006, 02:40 AM #94Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie
12-20-2006, 03:15 AM #95
I agree fully with zgloy...We can't just simpy comment if we do no everything...So,this forum is for discussing,don't make too harsh comment...
12-20-2006, 03:52 AM #96Originally Posted by saugusli
12-20-2006, 06:57 AM #97Originally Posted by saugusli
I say I won't argue anymore because you still don't understand, its like talking to a person without a brain, who disregard others opinion.. a person who disrespect others and igniting slurs regarding their nationalities
Please grow up, and talk sensibly.. in this forum we have a border we don't cross, that is talking bad and disrespecting other's nationality, culture, race and religion
Despite all the trash u talk about LCW, I still admire him even though my idol is Taufik... See am I being unfair here? U will be asking why a Malaysian is supporting an Indonesian player, how can this be? Simple I dont care what nationality they are as long as they play good badminton
12-20-2006, 12:37 PM #98Originally Posted by zqloy
12-20-2006, 12:42 PM #99Originally Posted by jug8man
12-20-2006, 10:38 PM #100
Sometimes, I find it quite strange that people do not really appreciate the runner-up... And I do not think it is easy to be in the final for 5 or 6 consecutive tourneys. I remember I read someone in this forum saying a win is a win regardless of whom you defeat, because one should only defeat who ever he/she is drawn to play.
If some people here care so much about the result other than the process, then LCW has got what you want. And now you think to whom one should defeat to get the title should be an issue to determine how great is the player, then you deny all the title he or she has won in the past. Just because LD or TH the so call great player is not in it? I can say LD get the XXX open coz LCW wasn't there, can't I? But I will not obviously coz that's not the point. I bet you if LCW didnt play in Mas Open 2007 and LD won, ppl will say LD finally beat malaysian player in their home ground coz ppl will only see the title but not the players who LD beat to get the title. About the mentality issue, once again, getting into final in a few tourneys is not a task that someone with a weak mentally can do . If you care about whom someone beat to obtain the title. GET A LIFE AND CHECK WHOM HE/SHE BEAT BEFORE THEY PROCEED TO THE FINAL!!
The women singles in Asian Game 06 was rule by two Hong Kong players, some people who don't know or did not follow the result may think they won because there is no chinese players paticipated in the event. Actually, the chinese were defeated by the two great HK ladies.
12-21-2006, 12:08 AM #101Originally Posted by zqloy
12-21-2006, 02:20 AM #102Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie
I'm not sure what you mean by 'great' when referring to TH and LD. My guess is 'great' as in many or big titles won. I 'd like to see TH win another big title(outside INA) without a big INA crowd behind him.Likewise for LD. LCW never has the advantage of a big MAS crowd outside MAS so when he wins outside MAS, he's winning on his own steam.In that sense , he's great.
What TH and LD have that's one notch above LCW is 'match experience'. I may be wrong but LCW may be 1 or 2 years behind in terms of match maturity before he comes of age and can win consistently.
Contrary to your earlier post about LD not respecting LCW, I believe LD regards LCW as his equal. He has referred to LCW as a' strong 'player(CHN's way of saying 'can beat me') and once requested LCW to share the same champion's podium with him during prize ceremony. If this is not respect shown to an opponent,in what way would respect be indicated? But of course the ultimate respect shown to LCW as a consummate player is in LYB's backhanded compliment of the need to use non-badminton tactics against him.
Still we hope all the top players will be injury-free in 2007 . The good news is TH will be working full time otherwise he may not make it to the top 8 for the year-end Masters. He won't want to miss the money.
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