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    Quote Originally Posted by vctrku View Post
    Well, what is the chance of getting a flawed racket then? I mean, I am putting $200 into two rackets and that is a lot of money to waste if they are completely useless as money does not exactly grow on trees for me. Well, when you guys say there are flaws in the quality control, what exactly do you mean? How bad can they get? Would it be as bad as making the racket feel completely different, or is it just really minor defects? Anyways, if I DO end up with a really flawed racket, wouldn't I be able to send it back for a replacement or something since it is their fault, not mine?
    you need to ask them that before you buy

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    Though what I really want to know is the margin of flawness you guys are talking about. How often do people get sub - par rackets. Also, if it is sub - par, what kind of flaws are we talking about? Really major or really minor? Can someone give me examples of the problems people had with these rackets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vctrku View Post
    Though what I really want to know is the margin of flawness you guys are talking about. How often do people get sub - par rackets. Also, if it is sub - par, what kind of flaws are we talking about? Really major or really minor? Can someone give me examples of the problems people had with these rackets?
    i don't know about the statistics but the common problems are the weight and BP. ever seen a headlight lethal? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy87 View Post
    Tantrum and Lethal series are own Apacs product line..as well as Stern and VH
    i'm not sure which YY series can be compared with Tantrum and Lethal but i know there are nothing from YY which can be compared with the VH series..as in the hollow shaft
    Apacs clone are never the same with YY..they even play very differently

    T300/L70 package is definitely a very good deal
    i always envy baddy players in US and Canada
    Apacs there always have packages with good prices
    there's no such thing in Msia
    although we can get both for less than RM500(equiv to US$150+- :P)
    In US/CANADA prices are high but the products are same/slightly different and have new names. It all depends on the skills.

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    Oh really!? I did not know we had different names. Is that why I have never seen any Stern lines on the website? Do you know what the corresponding names are for all the rackets that are the same thing but have different names elsewhere? Also, what do you mean when you said "It all depends on the skills."? Though, I am quite relieved by hearing what ziggy87 said as the main problems being the weight and distribution of that weight (balance point). I would assume EVERY other racket you buy out there would have the same differences as there is no such thing as perfection or an identical replica to another racket. I guess that the only thing with Apacs is that as someone said the quality control is not that great so the margins for error are just slightly greater. Sorry about asking soooo many questions here and on many other threads of this board but I am just trying to do as much research on the rackets I am about to buy and try to suck out as much information from this board through all its intelligent and experienced members so the information does not go to waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vctrku View Post
    Well, what is the chance of getting a flawed racket then?
    You got me wrong. Not flawed but just loose specs. E.g. the rackets are supposed to be 4U but can have different weight and balance. If you look at Sir Dink's rackets, instead of tightening the tolerance, he listed them out to help the buyers decide. Sir Dink's practice is far better than tightening the tolerance since it is really not possible given the variation in material/epoxy.

    If the racket is flawed, look to warranty replacements

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    Quote Originally Posted by vctrku View Post
    Oh really!? I did not know we had different names. Is that why I have never seen any Stern lines on the website? Do you know what the corresponding names are for all the rackets that are the same thing but have different names elsewhere? Also, what do you mean when you said "It all depends on the skills."? Though, I am quite relieved by hearing what ziggy87 said as the main problems being the weight and distribution of that weight (balance point). I would assume EVERY other racket you buy out there would have the same differences as there is no such thing as perfection or an identical replica to another racket. I guess that the only thing with Apacs is that as someone said the quality control is not that great so the margins for error are just slightly greater. Sorry about asking soooo many questions here and on many other threads of this board but I am just trying to do as much research on the rackets I am about to buy and try to suck out as much information from this board through all its intelligent and experienced members so the information does not go to waste.
    I am skeptical about the durability of APACS products. I have experiences.
    Before spending so much money please make sure they do not have structural flaws. It will be difficult to do that when you buy online. It is a wise idea to buy 5-6 (for the same price instead of just 2). Buy less costly APACS racket which has almost same or slightly different specifications. I am sure you can easily overcome such minor difference (like BP, weights, frame shape, shaft flex) by your skills.

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    what is diffrence between yonex nanospeed 800 and yonex nanospeed 800 SP/IP
    i mean what is SP/IP ? thanks for reply

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    its Apacs thread...
    but IP and SP are the codes of the rackets, i mean you can see from where thy are bought.
    SP=Singapore

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    thanks and sorry for error

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorysan View Post
    its Apacs thread...
    but IP and SP are the codes of the rackets, i mean you can see from where thy are bought.
    SP=Singapore
    SP-Singapore and Malaysia
    IP-Indonesia

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    Quote Originally Posted by staiger View Post
    No , dont own any VH range , cant stand the sight of having a hollow shaft and just dont like the idea at all. the L70 is a more powerful racket than the T200 , here is my rating for the top APACS rackets

    L70

    Feel 8.5/10
    Control 8/10
    Power 9.5/10
    Defense 8/10
    Maneuverability 7/10
    Overall 8/10

    Comment : Nice power , but lack that sharpness required in MD - an ideal singles racket. An excellent all round racket nevertheless

    AMP95

    Feel 7/10
    Control 7/10
    Power 10/10
    Defense 6/10
    Maneuverability 5/10
    Overall 7/10

    Comment : An excellent attacking racket not so much in defensive-wise , strong wrist required to bring the most out of this beast.

    T200

    Feel 10/10
    Control 9.5/10
    Power 9/10
    Defense 9/10
    Maneuverability 9/10
    Overall 9.5/10

    Comment : A brilliant racket ! One of my favorite of all time and currently my-go-to-racket , even the legendary NS9900 need to take a bow and move aside.
    Can you add the string tensions + rating for durability (cracks in shaft and frame, cracks in grip handle, noises etc)

    About vissible hollow -
    If you cut any rackets, you will see that they all have cylindrical hole along the vertical axis of the shaft. In visible hollow, the T-joints and grip woods is designed in a way so that one can see the hollow.

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    Yes , the visible hollow , it is the sight I dont like , (the clear butt cap ) ...I like rackets that look simple .
    Cannot really rate their durability because I had the AMP95 for years and the shaft snapped .

    the L70 and T200 I only have those for a few months and they are in perfect condition even I tend to overuse the T200 (for both singles and doubles) . The durability of the paintwork are much much better than the high-end Yonex , even after a few mis-hit and picking up shuttles , there are not much paint chip.

    The L70 was strung at 23lbs with Ashaway Microlegend xl
    AMP was strung at 23lbs with '' ''
    T200 was strung at 22lbs with Ash-away Zymax 67

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    Thanks for all your replies again! Weeyah, I understood what you were talking about when you said the specs were different, I guess it was just a wrong choice of wording for me. Though I did not understand what you were talking about when you mentioned Sir Dink, could you please link me to the page? Also, for what sxg2009, I have read MANY reviews on the t300 and l70 with them being amazing rackets, just like your reply section in your second post. Even though it does not show the t300, it shows the t200 and I have read that they are pretty much the same thing except the t300 is SLIGHTLY better which is pretty good when the t200 was given a 9.5 and the l70 an 8. The thing with your suggestion of buying five or six different rackets for the same price I would pay for the t300/l70 is that through all my research, I have not come across many posts on any of the other rackets so I have no idea what they are like and the t300/l70 combo looks PERFECT for me as it is the price of a mid-range Yonex racket for two top-end rackets. I just want to figure out if there are any stores in the Toronto area that would sell these rackets so that I could put them in my hands and feel them before I buy them. Even though they ship everything out of Markham, I do not know if they allow me to pick up the rackets instead of having it sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vctrku View Post
    Thanks for all your replies again! Weeyah, I understood what you were talking about when you said the specs were different, I guess it was just a wrong choice of wording for me. Though I did not understand what you were talking about when you mentioned Sir Dink, could you please link me to the page? Also, for what sxg2009, I have read MANY reviews on the t300 and l70 with them being amazing rackets, just like your reply section in your second post. Even though it does not show the t300, it shows the t200 and I have read that they are pretty much the same thing except the t300 is SLIGHTLY better which is pretty good when the t200 was given a 9.5 and the l70 an 8. The thing with your suggestion of buying five or six different rackets for the same price I would pay for the t300/l70 is that through all my research, I have not come across many posts on any of the other rackets so I have no idea what they are like and the t300/l70 combo looks PERFECT for me as it is the price of a mid-range Yonex racket for two top-end rackets. I just want to figure out if there are any stores in the Toronto area that would sell these rackets so that I could put them in my hands and feel them before I buy them. Even though they ship everything out of Markham, I do not know if they allow me to pick up the rackets instead of having it sent.
    But if you want a singles racket than I would rate L70 higher than an 8 because of the power , the review I done is for the racket overall performance for both singles and doubles. BTW , I am only an intermediate player , so Sir Dink review (since he is an advance player) may be slightly different ..but I guess it is good from both point of view.

    Tantrum 200 is a fantastic racket

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    What on earth is an Apacs Lethal 6!? cross between a Z-Spark? wut.


    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-APACS-LETH...item23063a586c

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    Hey, thanks for your reply again! I am only an intermediate player as well and Sir Panda has not yet rated the two rackets yet though I keep hearing that the Tantrum 200 is very similar to the Tantrum 300, but 300 is slightly better, is that correct? Anyways, the package for both the t300 and l70 just keep sounding better and better so I will probably end up buying it. Hehe! I am sooo excited! I am using a Carlton Airblade 500 Ti which is an ancient racket and thought it is time for a great upgrade!

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