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**shooting stroke** · 10-09-2010, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by ghooga

Hi guys, am a big fan of APACS. Am currently using Tantrum 200. I'm wondering if you guys have used or tried any better, powerful APACS weapon for doubles?

I reckon that the Lethal 50/60/70/90 are too head-heavy for doubles although they are real powerful rackets.

Thanks for sharing, guys!!

PERSONALLY, from my experience, Tantrum 200 is the best racket by far from Apacs for doubles. VH, Lethal or Slayer are all good quality rackets from Apacs, but T200 has the edge of having an equal excellent performance in both control and power.

**shadowfuri** · 10-09-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by shooting stroke

PERSONALLY, from my experience, Tantrum 200 is the best racket by far from Apacs for doubles. VH, Lethal or Slayer are all good quality rackets from Apacs, but T200 has the edge of having an equal excellent performance in both control and power.

Having said that, what are the actual differences in the T200 and VH2020, I was under the impression that the VH was slightly better due to it being more aerodynamic.

**sxg2009** · 10-09-2010, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by shooting stroke

PERSONALLY, from my experience, Tantrum 200 is the best racket by far from Apacs for doubles. VH, Lethal or Slayer are all good quality rackets from Apacs, but T200 has the edge of having an equal excellent performance in both control and power.

Can you tell us more about any VH racket that you have used and compare it with T200?

**sxg2009** · 10-09-2010, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by shadowfuri

Having said that, what are the actual differences in the T200 and VH2020, I was under the impression that the VH was slightly better due to it being more aerodynamic.

I think VH2020 frame is narrower than T200 when you see it from the front. This helps to swing the racket faster. Same for VH1700. Since the racket is heavy and wider (from the side) the recovery after every shot will be difficult unless somebody is having very strong arm power.

**shadowfuri** · 10-09-2010, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

I think VH2020 frame is narrower than T200 when you see it from the front. This helps to swing the racket faster. Same for VH1700. Since the racket is heavy and wider (from the side) the recovery after every shot will be difficult unless somebody is having very strong arm power.

So you're saying the VH series has better offense than the T200 but worse defense?

**Nicky14** · 10-10-2010, 02:38 AM

can tell me what's the difference between the vh series and the tantrum series?

**shooting stroke** · 10-10-2010, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by shadowfuri

Having said that, what are the actual differences in the T200 and VH2020, I was under the impression that the VH was slightly better due to it being more aerodynamic.

Originally Posted by sxg2009

Can you tell us more about any VH racket that you have used and compare it with T200?

I've used both T200 and VH2000 for some time before changing to L60. Both of this high end rackets from Apacs are an excellent piece of product and very little notable differences can be identified between them.

Whatever differences there are to compare between them, it is still a debatable issue since racket preferences is unique from one individual to another, regardless what technologies that has been fused to make the racket. Since there are differences in playing style and technique that exist, a good racket held in one's hand will not exactly be a good racket held in another individual hand.

The differences that i realised and experienced between T200 and VH200 after using them for some time that made me to conclude T200 is a better double racket than VH2000 by a marginal differences are based on 2 facts:

Spec: Both strung at 30lbs (BG 66) / Karakal PU Supergrip (factory grip intact)

1. Power

Eventhough both racket has the same balance measurement, I feel that T200 is "slightly" head heavier than VH2000 and therefore able to give that "extra punch" in the power department. VH 2000 is also a good racket that can deliver excellent performance while smashing, but T200 has a slight edge in a long run.

Power: T200 (9/10 ) > VH2000 (8.5/10)

2. Control

Eventhough VH2000 is aerodynamically design, but i realised that T200 is "slightly" lighter than VH2000 in terms of its weight hence more manoeverable.

Control: T200 (9/10 ) > VH2000 (8/10)

**ziggy87** · 10-10-2010, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by shooting stroke

I've used both T200 and VH2000 for some time before changing to L60. Both of this high end rackets from Apacs are an excellent piece of product and very little notable differences can be identified between them.

Whatever differences there are to compare between them, it is still a debatable issue since racket preferences is unique from one individual to another, regardless what technologies that has been fused to make the racket. Since there are differences in playing style and technique that exist, a good racket held in one's hand will not exactly be a good racket held in another individual hand.

The differences that i realised and experienced between T200 and VH200 after using them for some time that made me to conclude T200 is a better double racket than VH2000 by a marginal differences are based on 2 facts:

Spec: Both strung at 30lbs (BG 66) / Karakal PU Supergrip (factory grip intact)

1. Power

Eventhough both racket has the same balance measurement, I feel that T200 is "slightly" head heavier than VH2000 and therefore able to give that "extra punch" in the power department. VH 2000 is also a good racket that can deliver excellent performance while smashing, but T200 has a slight edge in a long run.

Power: T200 (9/10 ) > VH2000 (8.5/10)

2. Control

Eventhough VH2000 is aerodynamically design, but i realised that T200 is "slightly" lighter than VH2000 in terms of its weight hence more manoeverable.

Control: T200 (9/10 ) > VH2000 (8/10)

good review..
do take note also that the T200 is stiffer than VH

**sxg2009** · 10-10-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by ziggy87

good review..
do take note also that the T200 is stiffer than VH

The VH1700 that I am using seems very stiff.

**ziggy87** · 10-10-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

The VH1700 that I am using seems very stiff.

compared to?
what's the flex number on the shaft?

**sxg2009** · 10-10-2010, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by ziggy87

compared to?
what's the flex number on the shaft?

There is no flex number. It does not bend easily. much more than nano power 9900. more than my Dunlop aerogel 2000 which is a stiff racket. I think VH2000 is the updated version of VH1700. But I like the paint job in VH1700. It is one of best. I think the AV cap is missing in VH 2020 and 2000.

**sxg2009** · 10-10-2010, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by ziggy87

compared to?
what's the flex number on the shaft?

check this link - http://www.apacsuk.co.uk/apacs-racke...0/prod_53.html

**ziggy87** · 10-11-2010, 12:50 AM

it is indeed a sharp looking racket..i like the color scheme
it has the same stiffness rating with T200
so i guess they have similar flex
flex number on T200 is 7.5-8.0 which for apacs is extra stiff
apacs rate 8.0-8.5 as stiff but i feel that it's only mid stiff

**ziggy87** · 10-14-2010, 12:22 PM

something that i found on another thread in BC..credits to what07

http://www.apacscanada.com/-i-7.html

**kingskawn** · 10-14-2010, 12:40 PM

Ok so I ordered the VH2000 and T200. I have the L60 at the moment which I'm very satisfied but I want to know how the T200 plays because of all the positive reactions on that racket

**ghooga** · 10-14-2010, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by kingskawn

Ok so I ordered the VH2000 and T200. I have the L60 at the moment which I'm very satisfied but I want to know how the T200 plays because of all the positive reactions on that racket

L60 is good for singles and I think it's a bit heavy for doubles. T200 is good for doubles. It's a good all-around racket but for singles, it might not pack the punch as L60.

**ziggy87** · 10-14-2010, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by kingskawn

Ok so I ordered the VH2000 and T200. I have the L60 at the moment which I'm very satisfied but I want to know how the T200 plays because of all the positive reactions on that racket

why don't you just wait and tell us what you feel?

the head heaviness should be quite different