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    Anyway, really enjoying my badminton a lot with the Lethal 70 and Tantrum 300 - I think they have amazing potential. The Lethal 70 is of course pretty much identical to the Lethal 60. The Tantrum 300 is just brilliant and the scary thing is that I am probably only just starting to realise its full potential.

    However, tonight I'm going back to my Lethal 60, as I have a tournament coming up soon. The Lethal 70 and Tantrum 300 are (unfortunately) both "factory" strung, and I'm too cheap to change the strings to my usual Yonex BG65 (at about 27 pounds) until the "factory" strings have broken themselves. I think I will re-string my Tantrum 300 if it hasn't broken after about a month.

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    Hey guys im getting EdgeSaber 10.. any tips on stringing...? is it head heavy:?

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    Hi, i guess this comes a bit too late, but i'm quite curious on the lower-end of apacs rackets. I'm more of a tactical player with occasional smashes. Working on the smashes currently. I already own two Tantrum 300 but i'm considering just trying some lower end ones. Any suggestion for cheap but good quality rackets? I've tried Lethal 6, Lethal 8, Edgesaber Z-Slayer Black. How about Nano 900 Power? By the way, i'm in uk now so the only apacs racket i can get hold of are from racquet_sports and badmintonbay.

    Also, i can post some pictures of my T300 if anybody wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisfong89 View Post
    Hi, i guess this comes a bit too late, but i'm quite curious on the lower-end of apacs rackets. I'm more of a tactical player with occasional smashes. Working on the smashes currently. I already own two Tantrum 300 but i'm considering just trying some lower end ones. Any suggestion for cheap but good quality rackets? I've tried Lethal 6, Lethal 8, Edgesaber Z-Slayer Black. How about Nano 900 Power? By the way, i'm in uk now so the only apacs racket i can get hold of are from racquet_sports and badmintonbay.

    Also, i can post some pictures of my T300 if anybody wishes.
    Yes, please post some picture. I would like to see the 12 o' clock details.

    Do you feel some sort of vibration from T300? My T200 does have some.

    Recently I got a chance to play with Ti10 (old). It has no vibration.

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    Default Tantrum 300 pics

    Here are some photos i took of my T300. The one with better paintwork...

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    I forgot to mention... Yes i do feel a bit of vibration but compared to the other apacs rackets (Z-Slayer Black, Lethal 6, Lethal 8, Z-Slayer Red Gold) the T300 doesn't vibrate that much. Although it was really stiff and head heavy so i get elbow pain if i play for hours...

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    I think you may want to re-look at your technique and/or strengthen and improve the conditioning of your arm (eg. by doing weights) if you are getting elbow pain just by swinging an object weighing not much more than 100g.

    With regards to vibration, I don't notice it at all, but I will keep an eye out for it next time. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Lethal 6 and 8 are more low-end apacs rackets - you may want to try the Lethal 60/70/90/100. I currently own and have played with the Lethal Light Special, Lethal 60, Lethal 70, and Tantrum 300. The only racket I have noticed vibrating is the Lethal Light Special, which makes sense, since it's 6U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssj100 View Post
    I think you may want to re-look at your technique and/or strengthen and improve the conditioning of your arm (eg. by doing weights) if you are getting elbow pain just by swinging an object weighing not much more than 100g.

    With regards to vibration, I don't notice it at all, but I will keep an eye out for it next time. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Lethal 6 and 8 are more low-end apacs rackets - you may want to try the Lethal 60/70/90/100. I currently own and have played with the Lethal Light Special, Lethal 60, Lethal 70, and Tantrum 300. The only racket I have noticed vibrating is the Lethal Light Special, which makes sense, since it's 6U.
    Thanks, i'll go and watch some videos and stuff. Those are the earlier rackets that i used and only recently have i bought the T300... I saw great reviews for the Lethal 60, 70 so i might try them out if i have the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisfong89 View Post
    I forgot to mention... Yes i do feel a bit of vibration but compared to the other apacs rackets (Z-Slayer Black, Lethal 6, Lethal 8, Z-Slayer Red Gold) the T300 doesn't vibrate that much. Although it was really stiff and head heavy so i get elbow pain if i play for hours...
    Looks pretty much the same as a T200. I have 2 new T200 myself. Wonder if there's a need for myself to get a T300
    From my experience using T200, it's a very friendly racket for both singles and doubles. The elbow pain that you're getting could be due to the higher tension that you're not accustomed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghooga View Post
    Looks pretty much the same as a T200. I have 2 new T200 myself. Wonder if there's a need for myself to get a T300
    From my experience using T200, it's a very friendly racket for both singles and doubles. The elbow pain that you're getting could be due to the higher tension that you're not accustomed to.
    It's been said that the T200 = T300, with a different paint job. The same has been said of the L60 and L70. One thing I don't like about apacs is that they aren't clear AND consistent when it comes to differentiating these sort of things.

    EDIT: I think an "apacs UK" fellow said that the L70 is an improvement over the L60 because it has a more stable T-joint (that is, the T-joint is made slightly differently and is more optimised for greater stability). I really don't know if this is true, and it seems strange to make an apparently "new" racket and ONLY change it slightly. With regards to the T200 and T300, I remember reading where some "apacs distributor" apparently e-mailed someone saying that the T300 is made differently and was more robust than the T200. This "apacs distributor" also wrote that T200 could only take 30 pounds of tension, while the T300 could take 35 pounds of tension. However, this simply didn't make any sense, as the T200 clearly states that it can take 35 pounds of tension too. Anyway, very frustrating indeed. It would be great if a formal apacs representative, who knows what he's talking about, came here and straightened things out for us with no bullshi*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssj100 View Post
    It's been said that the T200 = T300, with a different paint job. The same has been said of the L60 and L70.
    That's why I gave him my opinion from my T200 experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssj100 View Post
    I think you may want to re-look at your technique and/or strengthen and improve the conditioning of your arm (eg. by doing weights) if you are getting elbow pain just by swinging an object weighing not much more than 100g.

    With regards to vibration, I don't notice it at all, but I will keep an eye out for it next time. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Lethal 6 and 8 are more low-end apacs rackets - you may want to try the Lethal 60/70/90/100. I currently own and have played with the Lethal Light Special, Lethal 60, Lethal 70, and Tantrum 300. The only racket I have noticed vibrating is the Lethal Light Special, which makes sense, since it's 6U.
    Oh yes... light rackets (5U) shook my bones of the entire arm starting from finger joints. the semi lights (4U) did the same expect I did not feel that my finger will fall off . The 3U like T200 has much less, though it hurts my elbow when I hit slightly off from the sweet spot. The VH 1700 has almost none why I like it the most; the VH1800 has almost none from the frame same like 1700 but I feel something is coming from the grip area. May be some sort of vibration node resulting from the impact on the frame.

    I have been doing weights, I would say heavy for more than 15 yrs. I also do weights specifically to improve badminton skills now. But this elbow ache has decreased my capability a lot. Now I could not lift 50lbs dumbbell anymore. I stay at 35lbs. My bench press has reduced to 110 from 150. Very sad situation over here
    Last edited by sxg2009; 04-23-2011 at 06:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisfong89 View Post
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    Awesome!! Is that some sort of golden color? Do you have muscle power frame at 12 o' clock position?

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    [QUOTE=sxg2009] I have been doing weights, I would say heavy for more than 15 yrs. I also do weights specifically to improve badminton skills now. But this elbow ache has decreased my capability a lot. Now I could not lift 50lbs dumbbell anymore. I stay at 35lbs. My bench press has reduced to 110 from 150. Very sad situation over here [QUOTE]

    What caused that elbow ache? Are you having a tennis elbow? Although badminton is addictive, I'd suggest you to take a break from it for a little while until it fully heals. Otherwise, it's hard to give 100% in your game.

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    [QUOTE=ghooga;1665910][QUOTE=sxg2009] I have been doing weights, I would say heavy for more than 15 yrs. I also do weights specifically to improve badminton skills now. But this elbow ache has decreased my capability a lot. Now I could not lift 50lbs dumbbell anymore. I stay at 35lbs. My bench press has reduced to 110 from 150. Very sad situation over here

    What caused that elbow ache? Are you having a tennis elbow? Although badminton is addictive, I'd suggest you to take a break from it for a little while until it fully heals. Otherwise, it's hard to give 100% in your game.
    I am addicted now and also playing too much. I can not stop, if I travel, I think I will take a racket as a carry on.

    But I should say badminton gave lot of benefits, which the weight lifting did not. So I do not care to lose some muscle for this game.

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    I am addicted now and also playing too much. I can not stop, if I travel, I think I will take a racket as a carry on.

    But I should say badminton gave lot of benefits, which the weight lifting did not. So I do not care to lose some muscle for this game.
    I can imagine that addiction I used to play almost everyday before I took up a post-grad program. Having to juggle between work and study at the same time isn't easy. Slowly I find that addiction isn't that tempting anymore. Still, badminton is the most effective sports that help me get into shape especially after every 45 min non-stop run on the treadmill. Going from 150 to 110 lbs on the bench press is a big downgrade I have to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxg2009 View Post
    Oh yes... light rackets (5U) shook my bones of the entire arm starting from finger joints. the semi lights (4U) did the same expect I did not feel that my finger will fall off . The 3U like T200 has much less, though it hurts my elbow when I hit slightly off from the sweet spot. The VH 1700 has almost none why I like it the most; the VH1800 has almost none from the frame same like 1700 but I feel something is coming from the grip area. May be some sort of vibration node resulting from the impact on the frame.
    Pity that you find so much vibration. At least you have found the rackets that work best for you though.

    Quote Originally Posted by sxg2009 View Post
    I have been doing weights, I would say heavy for more than 15 yrs. I also do weights specifically to improve badminton skills now. But this elbow ache has decreased my capability a lot. Now I could not lift 50lbs dumbbell anymore. I stay at 35lbs. My bench press has reduced to 110 from 150. Very sad situation over here
    I have never had elbow ache in my life, and I've been playing badminton for many years with a wide variety of rackets. Perhaps you may want to look at your technique. Otherwise, I hope things get better for you soon!

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