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**txv611** · 04-24-2011, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by ssj100

Pity that you find so much vibration. At least you have found the rackets that work best for you though.

I have never had elbow ache in my life, and I've been playing badminton for many years with a wide variety of rackets. Perhaps you may want to look at your technique. Otherwise, I hope things get better for you soon!

I started playing only for 4 months once a week and developed tennis elbow already. Must be poor technique of mine I guess.

**sxg2009** · 04-24-2011, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by txv611

I started playing only for 4 months once a week and developed tennis elbow already. Must be poor technique of mine I guess.

I think better to start with flexible racket.

**james8_fate** · 04-24-2011, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by txv611

I started playing only for 4 months once a week and developed tennis elbow already. Must be poor technique of mine I guess.

hello txv611, last time i had some problems with matches at sports hall straining elbow after jus a few hours play, but after searching youtube those national players coaching video, found out that if u use right technique, u'll be okay, as for me i am alright now so hope it helps you

flexible or stiff racket does not affect the elbow much, but the arm, if u cant play with stiff racket, change to a flexible one, what is the best racket for anyone?

It is one that a person can comfortably & easily play badminton with it without any problems during or after playing badminton.

**sxg2009** · 04-24-2011, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by james8_fate

hello txv611, last time i had some problems with matches at sports hall straining elbow after jus a few hours play, but after searching youtube those national players coaching video, found out that if u use right technique, u'll be okay, as for me i am alright now so hope it helps you

flexible or stiff racket does not affect the elbow much, but the arm, if u cant play with stiff racket, change to a flexible one, what is the best racket for anyone?

It is one that a person can comfortably & easily play badminton with it without any problems during or after playing badminton.

which video - could you please give us some details?

**ssj100** · 04-24-2011, 07:14 PM

Has anyone tried the Visible Hollow 2020? I've been told it has the same specs as the Visible Hollow 1700, 1800, and 2000? I'm a bit surprised that Dinkalot gave the VH1800 such a high recommendation ("one of the best rackets ever"), and I'm just curious about it. I see that he gave the Lethal 50 (similar or the same as the 60,70) and Tantrum 200 (similar or the same as the 300) excellent reviews too, which is good to see.

**sxg2009** · 04-24-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by ssj100

Has anyone tried the Visible Hollow 2020? I've been told it has the same specs as the Visible Hollow 1700, 1800, and 2000? I'm a bit surprised that Dinkalot gave the VH1800 such a high recommendation ("one of the best rackets ever"), and I'm just curious about it. I see that he gave the Lethal 50 (similar or the same as the 60,70) and Tantrum 200 (similar or the same as the 300) excellent reviews too, which is good to see.

I posted a comparison between T200/VH1700/VH1800 and others at the bottom of page 229. I will get VH2000 soon and update that table. Specs are not same among these rackets. VH1800 is very very powerful. It also has a great repulsion; may be because of Ti in the shaft. VH2020 is same as VH2000.

**sxg2009** · 04-24-2011, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by ssj100

Has anyone tried the Visible Hollow 2020? I've been told it has the same specs as the Visible Hollow 1700, 1800, and 2000? I'm a bit surprised that Dinkalot gave the VH1800 such a high recommendation ("one of the best rackets ever"), and I'm just curious about it. I see that he gave the Lethal 50 (similar or the same as the 60,70) and Tantrum 200 (similar or the same as the 300) excellent reviews too, which is good to see.

Earlier I read your post incorrectly. Yes, VH2000 has the same specifications as VH2020.

**ssj100** · 04-24-2011, 08:50 PM

It's been said that the Visible Hollow shaft is the same as the Lethal 60/70 shaft.

**sxg2009** · 04-24-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by ssj100

It's been said that the Visible Hollow shaft is the same as the Lethal 60/70 shaft.

Happy to know that it has some of APACS best technical upgrades … So it is just not a stunt, and it really has Ti .. & I got it for less price .... it is even making me happier.

**txv611** · 04-24-2011, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by james8_fate

hello txv611, last time i had some problems with matches at sports hall straining elbow after jus a few hours play, but after searching youtube those national players coaching video, found out that if u use right technique, u'll be okay, as for me i am alright now so hope it helps you

flexible or stiff racket does not affect the elbow much, but the arm, if u cant play with stiff racket, change to a flexible one, what is the best racket for anyone?

It is one that a person can comfortably & easily play badminton with it without any problems during or after playing badminton.

I am wondering can high tension create elbow pain for someonw who has good techniques? Or is elbow pain purely a poor technique thing?

**james8_fate** · 04-25-2011, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

which video - could you please give us some details?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0OH9e8OZk can go search this user videos, how you should hold, relax the racket and hit with good techniques, it is very useful as basic techniques are the first thing to learn when u play badminton. It has full collection of all techniques with human demonstration.

txv611, i am not sure high tension would be bad for your elbow, how high? 25,26 or 30? i am using 25-26, no much problem arise, if you think you cant handle 27-30 better dun, cos not all players can play such a high tension and stiff racket

**theerac** · 04-25-2011, 05:08 AM

Just received Stern 808 Power. it really give a sharp smash, great drive, safe shot, drop shot is also good and the really good thing is this racket is really fast manouvrable. With its' price that come with string and 2 grips, this is really good deal.

**rlracquet** · 04-25-2011, 11:03 AM

Anyone else tried out the Slayer series racquets yet besides the 2 reviews here?

**BengGuan** · 04-25-2011, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by rlracquet

Anyone else tried out the Slayer series racquets yet besides the 2 reviews here?

I have Slayer 99 2U. Actual weight about 92 gram, but when you are swing you felt this racket very light almost like 3U racket. Swing very fast, bunch of power but don't lack at manuver. One things that this racket very unique, when you hit exactly at sweetspot you will hear very loud hitting sound compare to the others Apacs rackets. Racket strung with Polyfibre string Explosion B8, diameter 0.68 mm.

**GaryC** · 04-25-2011, 12:42 PM

Hi guys, I was thining of picking up a bunch of Apacs rackets to test.

I was thinking of getting the Lethal 70, Slayer 99 3U, Lurid Power 21 22 and 23.

You think it's a good idea? I'm currently playing with a Voltric 80 and a Nanospeed 100.

**ssj100** · 04-25-2011, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by BengGuan

I have Slayer 99 2U. Actual weight about 92 gram, but when you are swing you felt this racket very light almost like 3U racket. Swing very fast, bunch of power but don't lack at manuver. One things that this racket very unique, when you hit exactly at sweetspot you will hear very loud hitting sound compare to the others Apacs rackets. Racket strung with Polyfibre string Explosion B8, diameter 0.68 mm.

Have you tried the Lethal 60/70 and Tantrum 200/300? If so, in your opinion, how does the Slayer 99 compare?

**BengGuan** · 04-25-2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by ssj100

Have you tried the Lethal 60/70 and Tantrum 200/300? If so, in your opinion, how does the Slayer 99 compare?

L60 and 70 i have. In term of power between this 2 racket, still prefer L70. L70 have much-much power but little bit lack of manuver compare to L60. T200 and 300 similar racket with same spec, but have different materials. Compare L70 and T200, i choose T200. Because this racket have ideal combination for speed and power.

All apacs models have own character. But from this 5 models, L60, L70, T200, T300 also Slayer 99. I still choose T200.