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**irwan_kho** · 05-06-2011, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by ssj100

Okay just back from another session. This time, started out with the Lethal 70 and really enjoyed my badminton. Smashing was incredible as usual. Switched to the Tantrum 300 after about an hour and my level went down significantly. Perhaps I was getting tired? This is the second session where I preferred the Lethal 70 over the Tantrum 300. I seriously can't decide which is the better racket. I think overall, I enjoy the Lethal 70 better, since I can get more powerful smashes with the right technique (it's slightly more head heavy and stiff).

i think you are better stick with lethal 70 otherwise your performance will drop. hahhaha. i think tantrum 300 is more even balanced racket and you need more attacking racket like lethal 70. make sure don't drop or clash with other rackets as it is a stiff racket.

**ssj100** · 05-06-2011, 03:42 PM

The Tantrum 300 is at least slightly head heavy. When I measured the Balance Point with original factory grip and with strings, it was over 300mm. Also, I don't think stiffer rackets necessarily mean they are easier to break. I clashed my Lethal 60 a few times quite badly and it has not cracked.

**sxg2009** · 05-06-2011, 09:09 PM

which one is better?

**ssj100** · 05-06-2011, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

which one is better?

There are many ways to answer this question, and all of them can be argued. From a price perspective, the AT900P must be much much "better".

I personally have no idea which one is better, as I've never tried the AT900P.

**ssj100** · 05-06-2011, 09:40 PM

By the way sxg2009, any luck getting hold of a Visible Hollow 2020? If you tell me that it's at least just as good (or the same) as the Visible Hollow 1800, I may consider buying it.

**yanhua123** · 05-07-2011, 04:18 AM

Hi, I'm from New Zealand.

Could anyone post an online distributer for Apacs that has good prices and ships to NZ.

Thanks in advance

**lining** · 05-07-2011, 05:20 AM

Could you tell me all the Apacs rackets for Advanced players thx . I saw a Lethal 90 is there any review ?

Which one is the best for a single player ?

Thx for your answers

**sxg2009** · 05-07-2011, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by ssj100

By the way sxg2009, any luck getting hold of a Visible Hollow 2020? If you tell me that it's at least just as good (or the same) as the Visible Hollow 1800, I may consider buying it.

I am getting VH2000 (same as VH2020). The order got delayed. Still I have to wait.

But now for doubles I am liking T200 more than VH1800. My partner is lifting the shuttle too high most of the time and I have to defend & control. T200 is excellent for this. I think I will restring T200 @ 23-24lbs to avoid elbow ache.

**TheNotoriousLIG** · 05-07-2011, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by lining

Could you tell me all the Apacs rackets for Advanced players thx . I saw a Lethal 90 is there any review ?

Which one is the best for a single player ?

Thx for your answers

Hi, I'm not sure of all the rackets but i used a lethal 90 the other day and fell in love! I have played with yonex Vt80s and nanospeed 9900, li ning n50 as well and i far prefer the lethal 90. I am a fairly intermediate player but i know from some of the very advanced players i know, that the Lethal 70 and 90 are very good. The lethal 100 is very similar to the lethal 70 but i prefer the lethal 70. As for a review for the Lethal 90 this should help. http://badminton-racket.blogspot.com...90-review.html

Hope this helps

**ssj100** · 05-07-2011, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

I am getting VH2000 (same as VH2020). The order got delayed. Still I have to wait.

But now for doubles I am liking T200 more than VH1800. My partner is lifting the shuttle too high most of the time and I have to defend & control. T200 is excellent for this. I think I will restring T200 @ 23-24lbs to avoid elbow ache.

Just remind me, is your T200 3U or 4U?

**lining** · 05-07-2011, 03:27 PM

Lethal 90 or Lethal 70 , Which one is the best to your opinion ?

**sxg2009** · 05-07-2011, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by ssj100

Just remind me, is your T200 3U or 4U?

3U. 106.7gm with extra PU grip.

**ssj100** · 05-07-2011, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

3U. 106.7gm with extra PU grip.

The reason I asked was because I was thinking perhaps the 4U version would be better for defense and control. It's difficult to know really. I am finding my Lethal 70 (very head heavy and stiff) very good to defend with too. In fact, I think it's just as good as the 3U Tantrum 300.

**ssj100** · 05-07-2011, 05:43 PM

By the way, I wish there were more reviews for the Lethal 100. It sounds like apacs have "shot themselves in the foot" a bit by making the Lethal 60/70 so good. From what I've read and from my experiences, the Lethal 60/70 are still (along with the Tantrum 200/300) the best rackets from apacs.

**Yoppy** · 05-07-2011, 09:10 PM

Im glad to see ssj100 lol, this is exactly where you belong man...

(You know rather than discrediting YY and Victor on many other threads and trying to convince everyone including yourself that Apacs is the best racket in the world). Dont get me man wrong Im belong here too, Im a big fan of Lethat 70 (which I borrowed from Irwan_kho), its a great racket. I also enjoy using ultra light rackets which Apacs produces. The only difference is I dont go around and told off people that Apacs are better than the rest.

**ssj100** · 05-07-2011, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Yoppy

Im glad to see ssj100 lol, this is exactly where you belong man...

(You know rather than discrediting YY and Victor on many other threads). Stop dont get me man wrong Im belong here too, Im a big fan of Lethat 70 (which I borrowed from Irwan_kho), its a great racket.

Credit only given where it's due. I (and many advanced level players I personally know) can't help it if I find high-end apacs rackets better performing than high-end Yonex rackets. I call it as I see it. Remember, I started out with Yonex. In fact, I played with Yonex rackets for over 20 years. You already know how I converted to apacs. However, I'm not narrowed minded, and I'm always open to trying new generation Yonex/Victor rackets to compare.

**ssj100** · 05-07-2011, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Yoppy

I also enjoy using ultra light rackets which Apacs produces. The only difference is I dont go around and told off people that Apacs are better than the rest.

Again, I call it as I see it. I tried one of those ultra light apacs rackets (Lethal Light Special) and I did not like it - effectively given it to one of the girls at my club.