APACS fan club

**ssj100** · 05-20-2011, 04:48 AM

Gosh, getting some massive power consistently now from my Lethal 70 - it's taken over 4 weeks for me to adapt fully to it. Although, come to think of it, it's now been re-strung at 27 pounds with BG65 string. I think I might get even more power at higher string tensions - probably go for 28 or 29 pounds next time.

**Yamaho1** · 05-20-2011, 10:12 AM

Have played with the Lethal 90 for about 8 hours now. I throughly enjoy playing with this racket. So fast. Smash power is great, defence is quick, serving attack is quick and good clear power. Far better control in positioning the bird. Only negatives to me so far is some vibration feedback in the forearm and the paint isn't quite so durable. No worse than some of the Wilson BLX series and Yonex nano series I used.

**abimo79** · 05-20-2011, 10:16 AM

hi all. recently i could see a lot of tantrum 200 4U version. the weight unstrung + original grip is 86 gram (same like Sir Dinkalot's review...86 gram). any review? is it better than 3U since the different is not much. 3U version imho is about 88 / 89 gram. Apacs claim that the 3U version is not too maneuverable due to the weight. With 4U tantrum 200 is now more maneuverable and faster.

**sxg2009** · 05-21-2011, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by abimo79

hi all. recently i could see a lot of tantrum 200 4U version. the weight unstrung + original grip is 86 gram (same like Sir Dinkalot's review...86 gram). any review? is it better than 3U since the different is not much. 3U version imho is about 88 / 89 gram. Apacs claim that the 3U version is not too maneuverable due to the weight. With 4U tantrum 200 is now more maneuverable and faster.

the vibration will more in 4U T200 unless there is some material added to dampen it...

**sxg2009** · 05-21-2011, 08:23 AM

@ ssj100:
same here with VH1800. ~ 100km/hr drive shots are not a big deal. its flexibility is helping me to execute easy clears and its head heaviness for extra control. not a bad deal at all for a $60 racket. .. and the vibration - cannot feel any! I can buy ~ 4 of them for a price of 1 Yonex.

**zero_hour** · 05-21-2011, 08:31 AM

you sure VH1800 no vibration? hmmm

**sxg2009** · 05-21-2011, 08:36 AM

.. and the Anti Vibration!!

**zero_hour** · 05-21-2011, 09:32 AM

in the head frame? >.<

**sxg2009** · 05-21-2011, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by zero_hour

you sure VH1800 no vibration? hmmm

less than any other APACS.
I am talking about the vibration after impact of the shuttle. no doubt there will be some vibration immediately after the impact, but its life time varies among various rackets. It is like pulling a string, which is tightly bound at two ends. some shocks stays for longer times and those are unaffordable to me. If the dampening mechanism is good then the life time will be less. and if it less very less (may be 100ms), then we not feel it. I am not saying that dampening is that fast for VH1800... but only I can say that I feel none compared to any other APACS that I have used.

**Sgbad** · 05-21-2011, 10:08 AM

Heard that the visible hollow 2020 is the latest vh racket. is it true? they are going at around sgd$90.

**sxg2009** · 05-21-2011, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by zero_hour

in the head frame? >.<

from 9,1/2 - 2,1/2 position.

**sxg2009** · 05-21-2011, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Sgbad

Heard that the visible hollow 2020 is the latest vh racket. is it true? they are going at around sgd$90.

VH2000 & VH2020 (which are same according to my knowledge) were released last year, and the new VH1800 (different from the old 1800) is released this year. I do not know the conversion.. but I know you can get them for USD $55 in MY.

**ssj100** · 05-21-2011, 02:55 PM

Didn't realise the VH1800 was so flexible - probably wouldn't suit me, as I like stiff rackets.

**ssj100** · 05-21-2011, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

less than any other APACS.
I am talking about the vibration after impact of the shuttle. no doubt there will be some vibration immediately after the impact, but its life time varies among various rackets. It is like pulling a string, which is tightly bound at two ends. some shocks stays for longer times and those are unaffordable to me. If the dampening mechanism is good then the life time will be less. and if it less very less (may be 100ms), then we not feel it. I am not saying that dampening is that fast for VH1800... but only I can say that I feel none compared to any other APACS that I have used.

I've been told the Visible Hollow frame is identical (or at least very similar) to the Lethal 60/70.

**elbowtko** · 05-21-2011, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by sxg2009

@ ssj100:
same here with VH1800. ~ 100km/hr drive shots are not a big deal. its flexibility is helping me to execute easy clears and its head heaviness for extra control. not a bad deal at all for a $60 racket. .. and the vibration - cannot feel any! I can buy ~ 4 of them for a price of 1 Yonex.

Where did you get a VH 1800 for 60$ I got mine off of badmintonbay for US $82 OTD with BG65?

Also I haven't tried too many other rackets but how stiff would you consider this racket to be compared to others?

**Nicky14** · 05-21-2011, 11:17 PM

can anyone tell me more about lethal 9? or the review of lethal 9?? spefically...and also the player's experience with it??

**sxg2009** · 05-22-2011, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by elbowtko

Where did you get a VH 1800 for 60$ I got mine off of badmintonbay for US $82 OTD with BG65?

Also I haven't tried too many other rackets but how stiff would you consider this racket to be compared to others?

I bought 4,@ USD 55 including bg65, from Andrew. he is a good seller, I always buy from him. I would say it is not as flexible as Ti10 (old), Apacs nano 9900 or anything with flexibility scale 'M'.I would say it is less stiff than T200.