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    Quote Originally Posted by Dato Asbullah View Post
    CSK/YKH also won that silver medal but why none of them being conferred the Datuk-ship, if you said DLCW's Datuk-ship is not because of politics? Tell me what is the different between those 2 medals?

    Mohd Hafiz Hashim also brought honours to the country as he won the AE title, so do KKK/TBH. Why they are not being conferred the Datuk-ship as what DLCW get?

    Just to remind you one thing, LCW did not ever won Major Championship yet in his career so far. How to measures 'brought honours to the country'? Because he is WR No. 1? If yes, how about CEH/WPT? Roslin Hashim? They should get the dATUK-SHIP also then.
    tell me what's the difference between 2008 Olympic Games Silver Medalist and 2003 ALL england title Which 1 is more precious? p/s Tell me what's the difference between the year 2003, 2007, 2008 and 2009, dato hasbullah awang. Forget about the major championships 1st la.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    tell me what's the difference between 2008 Olympic Games Silver Medalist and 2003 ALL england title Which 1 is more precious? p/s Tell me what's the difference between the year 2003, 2007, 2008 and 2009, dato hasbullah awang. Forget about the major championships 1st la.
    Long before we have WC and OLY, AE is the inaugural world championship or unofficial world badminton championship. That was during King Rudy's times. These 3 are badminton majors, well add in AG just to make it a slam of 4 majors (in my opinion AG is iffy since it does not hold the same participation of the world top players, especially with the European missing in action).
    Outright winning any of the 3 majors means the winner is the champion, runner-up is still runner-up, which is good but not good enough. Winning a SS or Gold is a major achievement for any player, but it is just one more biscuit to medal, one winning cheque to bank and really, quite easily forgotten. That does not diminish Datuk whom I rate as a very good and entertaining player, top 2-3 in the world (not bad at all), WR1 for a while now (LD not playing is not LCW's fault) and one player I would pay to watch especially if he face off against LD. Just my 2 cents opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    tell me what's the difference between 2008 Olympic Games Silver Medalist and 2003 ALL england title Which 1 is more precious? p/s Tell me what's the difference between the year 2003, 2007, 2008 and 2009, dato hasbullah awang. Forget about the major championships 1st la.
    Did you follow the post? If you just simply reply, than i will have to tell the story again.

    See, some member here stated that Lee's Datuk-ship is not because of politics. Instead, he/she claimed that it is because of Lee's effort to bring honours to the country.

    Well, if it is like that, why CSK/YKH, won the silver-medal in 96 Olympic Games did not get the Datuk title? Theirs is the 1st Silver medal for Malaysia in Olympic Games. So Georgeboy, it's you turn to tell me what is the difference between 96 silver-medal and 08 silver medal?

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    I don't think we have to argue over the datukship LCW received... it's not like he's been begging and asking to be given one, the State where he was born decided to honor him with one... he only did what he does best, which is playing great badminton and if people wanna recognized him based on his consistency and achievements, why should we question it? beside, I think this datukship also adds burden to LCW and I don't believe he is vastly happy knowing the fact that people are looking forward for more from him...

    before I have asked, "Can we ever allowed to decline a datukship?" but that question remains unanswered... What happened in the past with out former great badminton players, the reason why they didn't receive the datukship or similar honors like LCW, should not be compared with what LCW have received thus far... again, this is what big people in Penang thought he should get... LCW himself has been working really hard non-stop to earn his living and keeping Malaysia in competition with other forces like Denmark, China, etc... he's the best we got NOW in badminton... the most consistent... his inability to win major titles is still an unsolved issue, but I believe one day if not this year, he'll be able to win one of his own. I don't think our former great badminton players would think too much over a datukship cos during their times, they played because it's their passion and they did it for Malaysia... I believe LCW is also playing for the same reasons and fortunately for him people are giving him what they think he should get out of his hard works... I thank them and I thank him for never giving up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eRa@에라 View Post
    before I have asked, "Can we ever allowed to decline a datukship?" .
    I think it is possible...

    exp: Encik Ghafar Baba & Samy Vellu... they dont want their datukship until much later

    Another example is Shah Rukh Khan!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dato Asbullah View Post
    Did you follow the post? If you just simply reply, than i will have to tell the story again.

    See, some member here stated that Lee's Datuk-ship is not because of politics. Instead, he/she claimed that it is because of Lee's effort to bring honours to the country.

    Well, if it is like that, why CSK/YKH, won the silver-medal in 96 Olympic Games did not get the Datuk title? Theirs is the 1st Silver medal for Malaysia in Olympic Games. So Georgeboy, it's you turn to tell me what is the difference between 96 silver-medal and 08 silver medal?
    Yes, i did follow your post clearly. Actually i have to agree too that It is lee's effort to play for malaysia and bring honours to the country always. If it wasn't him, then where on earth in the medal tally during the OG08 malaysia got a silver medalist came from?? The person who wants to give the datukship title is of course the penang state government. We cannot say anything about that. LCW would just receive it. Its the one who gave the datukship award decision on why they gave such title. Look at shah rukh khan.. any complain? we can't do anything. on your 1996 og silver medal, i could say TIME HAS CHANGED. we are already in the millinium year now.
    andf if you want more further explanation, here u go..
    Quote Originally Posted by eRa@에라 View Post
    I don't think we have to argue over the datukship LCW received... it's not like he's been begging and asking to be given one, the State where he was born decided to honor him with one... he only did what he does best, which is playing great badminton and if people wanna recognized him based on his consistency and achievements, why should we question it? beside, I think this datukship also adds burden to LCW and I don't believe he is vastly happy knowing the fact that people are looking forward for more from him...

    before I have asked, "Can we ever allowed to decline a datukship?" but that question remains unanswered... What happened in the past with out former great badminton players, the reason why they didn't receive the datukship or similar honors like LCW, should not be compared with what LCW have received thus far... again, this is what big people in Penang thought he should get... LCW himself has been working really hard non-stop to earn his living and keeping Malaysia in competition with other forces like Denmark, China, etc... he's the best we got NOW in badminton... the most consistent... his inability to win major titles is still an unsolved issue, but I believe one day if not this year, he'll be able to win one of his own. I don't think our former great badminton players would think too much over a datukship cos during their times, they played because it's their passion and they did it for Malaysia... I believe LCW is also playing for the same reasons and fortunately for him people are giving him what they think he should get out of his hard works... I thank them and I thank him for never giving up.

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    ok, enough talk about the 'datukship' issue. Let's get back to topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    ok, enough talk about the 'datukship' issue. Let's get back to topic.
    Malaysia Boleh!
    Lee Chong Wei Boleh!!
    So any updates of his injury?

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    hopefully it won't affect his peformance & his ex lover in China Masters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dato Asbullah View Post
    CSK/YKH also won that silver medal but why none of them being conferred the Datuk-ship, if you said DLCW's Datuk-ship is not because of politics? Tell me what is the different between those 2 medals?

    Mohd Hafiz Hashim also brought honours to the country as he won the AE title, so do KKK/TBH. Why they are not being conferred the Datuk-ship as what DLCW get?

    Just to remind you one thing, LCW did not ever won Major Championship yet in his career so far. How to measures 'brought honours to the country'? Because he is WR No. 1? If yes, how about CEH/WPT? Roslin Hashim? They should get the dATUK-SHIP also then.
    The times are different.

    Based on your logic, you may as well compare yourself with your grandparents. We now have internet, h/phones while our grandparents dont. A teacher salary now is much much higher than a teacher salaries 30 years ago, right?

    As for LCW, do you need a world title to justify the datuk titles? How about hard and honest work? LCW sure worked hard to bring honours to our country. We just cannot compare him to others or else how do you justify the lands given to Jalani & co when they won the Thomas Cup? How come Jalani & co get lands while Rabuan Pit dont get when he won the 100 meters race in Asia games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SibugiChai View Post
    i think Dato Lee dont not deserve a datuk title YET!

    It will pe more proble to gip him after retirement...

    anyway... This title in msia dont mean much, cause its given to UMNO ppl only!
    How do you decide whether LCW deserve or dont deserve the title yet? I would it is his luck to get it now and he deserve it because he work hard to win honours for Malaysia.

    Anyway, life is never about being fair or else they will be no rich and poor people.

    ... and by the way, i dontt think Lcw is a UMNO people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Leong View Post
    The times are different.

    Based on your logic, you may as well compare yourself with your grandparents. We now have internet, h/phones while our grandparents dont. A teacher salary now is much much higher than a teacher salaries 30 years ago, right?

    As for LCW, do you need a world title to justify the datuk titles? How about hard and honest work? LCW sure worked hard to bring honours to our country. We just cannot compare him to others or else how do you justify the lands given to Jalani & co when they won the Thomas Cup? How come Jalani & co get lands while Rabuan Pit dont get when he won the 100 meters race in Asia games?
    Hard work + bring honours + honest work = gets Datuk title?

    I am comparing 96 OG silver and 08 OG Silver. It's apple to apple. You deny the truth that LCW's datukship is because of politics. Instead, you agreed that he deserves the title for his work-hard, work-honest and bring honours to the country.

    Do you think only DLCW work-hard, work honest and bring honours to the country (in badminton sports)?

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    It is not up to us to choose who gets it and who doesn't. Without a doubt, he definitely should enjoy his datukship.

    Back on topic, I noticed that LCW's knee seems to be giving him alot of trouble. This is from China Masters. LCW kept being smashed crosscourt, and also failed to retrieve it.. his knee seems to also be heavily bandaged..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_mond View Post
    It is not up to us to choose who gets it and who doesn't. Without a doubt, he definitely should enjoy his datukship.

    Back on topic, I noticed that LCW's knee seems to be giving him alot of trouble. This is from China Masters. LCW kept being smashed crosscourt, and also failed to retrieve it.. his knee seems to also be heavily bandaged..
    have u heard of peak oil?
    well, athletes have peaks too

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    haha, just curious of his condition..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_mond View Post
    It is not up to us to choose who gets it and who doesn't. Without a doubt, he definitely should enjoy his datukship.

    Back on topic, I noticed that LCW's knee seems to be giving him alot of trouble. This is from China Masters. LCW kept being smashed crosscourt, and also failed to retrieve it.. his knee seems to also be heavily bandaged..
    Sure LD will samshes a lot of cross-court in today's SF match...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_mond View Post
    haha, just curious of his condition..
    no prob.
    thx for bringing this up to us

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