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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    I agree... Coach Tang is the best.

    So, what if Coach Tang is to coach LCW?

    Will LCW win the 2012 Olympics Gold?
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    i prefer indra gunawan to train LCW, unfortunately indra already left this world... or else today there will be a lot of talented MAS ms players in top 50...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    I agree... Coach Tang is the best.
    So, what if Coach Tang is to coach LCW?
    Will LCW win the 2012 Olympics Gold?
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    It is not appropriate to say Tang is the best just because he coached LD. You must also have an able student.
    Don't think he can coach any Tom, Dick or Harry to be an Olympic champion.

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    Arrow LCW will follow what the BAM management tells me to do

    Quote Originally Posted by ngkt67 View Post
    i prefer indra gunawan to train LCW, unfortunately indra already left this world... or else today there will be a lot of talented MAS ms players in top 50...
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    Yes, if only LCW can have some coaching from Indra Gunawan, it would be great too.

    We can talk on and on, but there is really nothing that we (and LCW) can do in choosing coaches. Why? Because LCW is under BAM, and BAM choose the coach for him.

    Even LCW have said: "The question of whether there will be a change in my coaching is with BAM. I am under BAM and I will follow its rules". "I have spoken to Misbun recently and got some tips. However, I will follow what the BAM management tells me to do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    It is not appropriate to say Tang is the best just because he coached LD.
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    OK... Maybe I have exaggerated it a bit too much.

    When I was learning to coach, I was under the instructions from Tang Xian Hu (in person, when he visited Australia).

    I find Tang Xian Hu's philosophy on training methods the best. If only you have studied/listened to his coaching methods. But of course, this is only my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    OK... Maybe I have exaggerated it a bit too much.
    When I was learning to coach, I was under the instructions from Tang Xian Hu (in person, when he visited Australia).
    I find Tang Xian Hu's philosophy on training methods the best. If only you have studied/listened to his coaching methods. But of course, this is only my opinion.
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    No issues, Chris.
    What I am implying is Tang maybe a very good coach but may not be the best coach. There maybe a better coach than Tang but that coach does not have a student like LD.

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    Wink When LCW fails to win, he cannot blame his coach

    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    No issues, Chris.
    What I am implying is Tang maybe a very good coach but may not be the best coach. There maybe a better coach than Tang but that coach does not have a student like LD.
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    It's OK, there is no issue.

    Regarding the coaching issue (coaches and trainees), yes, I agree with your comment: "There maybe a better coach than Tang but that coach does not have a student like LD".

    This is what I believe in;
    * LCW's success does not necessarily depend on a good coach.
    * Whether LCW wins or not, it does not indicate that his coach is good or bad.
    * We can only rewind the time to see whether a certain strategy has worked or not (as performed by LCW and/or as advised by his coach).

    LCW is the one performing. He learns from his coach; but when he fails he cannot blame his coach.

    LCW's coach is the one advising him. He/she gives instructions to LCW what he/she thinks in what ways LCW can win against a particular opponent.

    Therefore when LCW fails to win in a match, he should blame himself first, not his coach. It is a combination of effort, depending on LCW's form and his coach's advise (and of course on how the combination of effort is carried out by LCW's opponents form and/or opponent's coach's advise).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Therefore when LCW fails to win in a match, he should blame himself first, not his coach.
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    Did he ever blame his coach?? I don't know that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogensaebel View Post
    Did he ever blame his coach?? I don't know that...
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    Sorry... that if you have thought of what I didn't say.

    I thought I said "LCW is the one performing. He learns from his coach; but when he fails he cannot blame his coach".

    Now you are adding in other ideas about I have not said?

    On LCW's part; he wants to get the best advise to help him to win the 2012 Olympic Games GOLD medal.
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    ok I got it..maybe I'm a lil bit confused because of the sudden change of tune in the current thread topics...

    If you mean to prevent it from happening, I think everyone can agree on that even though I don't see it'll happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Sorry... that if you have thought of what I didn't say.
    I thought I said "LCW is the one performing. He learns from his coach; but when he fails he cannot blame his coach".
    Now you are adding in other ideas about I have not said?
    On LCW's part; he wants to get the best advise to help him to win the 2012 Olympic Games GOLD medal.
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    Chris, perhaps you should re-phrase it to :

    "LCW is the one performing. He learns from his coach; but when he fails, his coach is not the one solely to be blamed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    Chris, perhaps you should re-phrase it to :

    "LCW is the one performing. He learns from his coach; but when he fails, his coach is not the one solely to be blamed".
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    OK... I shall accept and agree with what you have said:

    "When LCW fails, his coach is not the one solely to be blamed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    OK... I shall accept and agree with what you have said:

    "When LCW fails, his coach is not the one solely to be blamed".
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    I agree...

    sounds better...before it 'sounds like' lcw himself blame his coaches which is not true, whereas the truth is the media and some fans do that and definitely not him...I'm out of confusion LOL..

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    Have we ever thought what happened if LCW doesn't win the OG2012? In his mind, should he continue playing after China had stood in his way for far too long or maybe call it quits since he is not fated to be that Malaysian, perhaps it was somebody else, Zulfadi Zulkifli maybe...

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    Silver in Olympic Games 2008
    Silver in All England 2009
    Silver in Asian Games 2010
    Silver in World Championship 2011

    I cant imagine how this will impact LCW's morale if Lin Dan is prepared to end his winning streak in Malaysia Open 2012.

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    he just need to keep himself fresh by OG12...he has without a doubt ability to challenge LD and should take advantage as an underdog against him...the problem in his last tournaments is tiredness (himself admitted) after pushing all out through out the year and WC11 final's effect...AE11 is the proof of his freshness...just keep fresh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miqilin7 View Post
    Silver in Olympic Games 2008
    Silver in All England 2009
    Silver in Asian Games 2010
    Silver in World Championship 2011

    I cant imagine how this will impact LCW's morale if Lin Dan is prepared to end his winning streak in Malaysia Open 2012.
    Sometimes a defeat is better than a win.
    Defeat will make you really think on what to do better.
    Having said that, I am still having problem beating my friend for more than a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerv2 View Post
    Sometimes a defeat is better than a win.
    Defeat will make you really think on what to do better.
    Having said that, I am still having problem beating my friend for more than a year.
    Every dog has it's day. Your day will come. Perseverance, my friend.

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