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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll99 View Post
    Looks like BWF will grant Lin Dan another wild card next year.

    http://gzdaily.dayoo.com/html/2013-1...nt_2426253.htm

    How should LCW respond?

    I think Chong Wei should threaten to withdraw from next year WC or, better yet, threaten to retire...

    I think LCW should respond in a positive manner by saying he welcomes all challenges from anyone, not only LD or CL. If LCW wants to be the World Champion one day, he should be able to beat anyone, be them current touring professionals, semi-professionals, amateurs, retired players or semi-retired players. To be World Champion, he should be able to beat everyone that comes along his quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latecomer View Post
    To avoid future controversy, BWF should grant automatic berths to past champions(up to 3 years) if they wish to compete rather than on a case to case basis. With LD case, there are more winners than losers if a wild card is granted.
    Good idea but maybe for one year only.

    As a mark of respect to the immediate past WC champion, it is nice to invite him/her to participate in the next WC irrespective of his/her current world ranking. It will then be up to him whether he feels up to it before accepting.

    If he managed to retain his title, as did LD, he is therefore eligible for the next WC. But not when he is defeated in the process. Then the rule is very clear.

    The wildcard should also be given to a player whom the BWF feels is most deserving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Good idea but maybe for one year only.

    As a mark of respect to the immediate past WC champion, it is nice to invite him/her to participate in the next WC irrespective of his/her current world ranking. It will then be up to him whether he feels up to it before accepting.

    If he managed to retain his title, as did LD, he is therefore eligible for the next WC. But not when he is defeated in the process. Then the rule is very clear.

    The wildcard should also be given to a player whom the BWF feels is most deserving.
    It doesn't really matter if it is one year or more as long as there is a written guideline. A wild card recipient should meet certain criteria before a spot is granted. I think the BWF should seek consensus with the players re the process of granting wild cards.

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    Yes LCW is no longer invincible vis--vis CL and Tago. Hey he even lost to Tien Minh , super veteran Boonsak and Sho Wan Ho not to long ago. LCW is now playing primarily for Winston's financial security and try to win one major (if AE is not considered one). Is he any less great if he never win WC or OG? Do yall think Gade and Frost to be less divine in the Olympus of Badminton immortals. He should reduce his tournaments so that he could stay on top or in the top game longer probably giving us a last hurrah at OG 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnymak View Post
    Yes LCW is no longer invincible vis--vis CL and Tago. Hey he even lost to Tien Minh , super veteran Boonsak and Sho Wan Ho not to long ago. LCW is now playing primarily for Winston's financial security and try to win one major (if AE is not considered one). Is he any less great if he never win WC or OG? Do yall think Gade and Frost to be less divine in the Olympus of Badminton immortals. He should reduce his tournaments so that he could stay on top or in the top game longer probably giving us a last hurrah at OG 2016.
    in opinion, it is time for LCW to take a very long rest until next year Thomas Cup, which means LCW has to skip a lot of tournaments by today including upcoming China SS, Hong Kong SS, SS Finals, next year Korea SS, Malaysia SS, All England and so on... like this sure his ranking drop like freefall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngkt67 View Post
    in opinion, it is time for LCW to take a very long rest until next year Thomas Cup, which means LCW has to skip a lot of tournaments by today including upcoming China SS, Hong Kong SS, SS Finals, next year Korea SS, Malaysia SS, All England and so on... like this sure his ranking drop like freefall...
    Indeed LCW needs time to rest his body, recover his fitness and avoid injuries, which is more detrimental.

    But he also needs to pick his tournaments judiciously to win more prizes and to gain WR points to stay ahead.

    If he doesn't participate in tournaments, he will be like LD, hoping for a wildcard from BWF for the majors.

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    If he rest till Thomas cup, he would need to pay a lot of fines to BWF. If I'm not mistaken usd5k for each super series a world no.1 skip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Indeed LCW needs time to rest his body, recover his fitness and avoid injuries, which is more detrimental.

    But he also needs to pick his tournaments judiciously to win more prizes and to gain WR points to stay ahead.

    If he doesn't participate in tournaments, he will be like LD, hoping for a wildcard from BWF for the majors.
    I'm just wondering, how many wild card would BWF issues if both LD and LCW were unqualified for next year's WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerbeer View Post
    I'm just wondering, how many wild card would BWF issues if both LD and LCW were unqualified for next year's WC.
    Good question.

    Wildcards are precious and are only given to those most deserving if they can't enter via the normal route for whatever reasons.

    Unlikely that they will be given to two players from the same sport, just my guess.
    Not sure whether there are any precedents for badminton.

    Of course both LCW and LD are deserving, but if only one wildcard is available, they may have to fight for it. Now that will be most interesting! Just like another final, hehe.

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    apparently wild cards will only be considered for pass and reigning champions.

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    They can play a match and the winner get the wild card

    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Good question.

    Wildcards are precious and are only given to those most deserving if they can't enter via the normal route for whatever reasons.

    Unlikely that they will be given to two players from the same sport, just my guess.
    Not sure whether there are any precedents for badminton.

    Of course both LCW and LD are deserving, but if only one wildcard is available, they may have to fight for it. Now that will be most interesting! Just like another final, hehe.

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    The BWF has set a precedence. Wild cards are for current World Champion & Olympic Champion. LCW is neither. BWF will make a fool of themselves if they try to give LCW a wild card if he not qualified based on ranking.

    LD may question why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SibugiChai View Post
    If he rest till Thomas cup, he would need to pay a lot of fines to BWF. If I'm not mistaken usd5k for each super series a world no.1 skip
    even with a medical certificate? you cannot force an injured player to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominikk1985 View Post
    even with a medical certificate? you cannot force an injured player to play.
    You need to prove the injury unless you are a player from a certain country.
    Maybe use vertigo as an excuse.
    Last edited by nokh88; 10-29-2013 at 05:14 AM.

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    LD deserves to participate on next year's WC. He's a living legend with the most WC title in history. Anw LCW's not a coward who would be discouraged merely because LD is participating. I bet he has a desire to prove that at least once in his career he could be on the top podium of the WC, no matter whom his contender is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markuswair View Post
    LD deserves to participate on next year's WC. He's a living legend with the most WC title in history. Anw LCW's not a coward who would be discouraged merely because LD is participating. I bet he has a desire to prove that at least once in his career he could be on the top podium of the WC, no matter whom his contender is.
    Unfortunately for the former great LCW, its too late to win the majors. From now
    on he will be quarterfinalist and max, semifinalist - the likes of CL, KT, WZM, DPY,
    CYK, the clown JOJ and the korean MS will be giving him a very tough time next
    year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominikk1985 View Post
    even with a medical certificate? you cannot force an injured player to play.
    If im coret, players stail need to go to teh tiruan menu doc. To be verify unfit, since already at teh location, mighgt as Wellington play

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