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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll99 View Post
    I think Tong XF said to LD a few months before Beijing Olypmics that "you are the best badminton player in the world" or something similar... does anyone else remember this?
    If TXF told me like this, I would also believe! Cos it's the words from "the Thing"!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    This is the biggest joke I ever heard!!! Looks like LCW is LD's whole life!!!
    We all know by now Madame pjswift is "Miss. How-can-we-ever-take-your-words-seriously" when it comes to these discussions.

    Or else..

    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    LD has the best support system in the world. LCW has mediocre, sometimes sabotaging, support set up. Yet LD has lost to LCW 8 time.
    Yes, LCW (for example) gets fed lousy, un-nutritious and life-sapping food everyday under the management and insistence of the Malaysian coaches and [probably dumb] doctors and food specialists, which is also why LCW is so thin and fragile (where WZM even made cheeky remarks about) while coach TSB himself is jolly and chubby. Such unfairness

    I have not yet made reference to the lousy run down training centres that are just about to fall apart where the Malaysian badminton athletes train in fear of the roof collapsing on them, which pjswift has said exists in Malaysia where LCW trains, compared to the palace where LD trains with all the best support system in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    Do you really think LD just turn up and play against LCW without intensive preparations beforehand? LD never prepares for any other MS that s why he plays shaky sometimes. He only prepares exclusively for LCW. So does CL, or for that matter CJ. That s 3 against 1, get the idea? That s how great LCW is!

    If this is the case, LD and CL should not know how to play orher players and must ALWAYS lost to other players before meeting LCW... Just like how CW so often lost to other players like SD, TH, etc in WCs of the last many years before he was supposed to meet LD....


    What an amazing logic!!!
    Last edited by Jonc108; 12-09-2011 at 04:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll99 View Post
    according to ttymq, LCW will not compete in next year's INA and SGP open... he will only compete in Korea, Malaysia, All England and Thomas Cup...

    very interesting...

    http://www.ttymq.com/viewnews-20329.html

    i wonder what he will do with his new found free time....
    Free time .... erm maybe he will go Yam Cha with his family & maybe go pak thor with his girlfriend

    Enough of the joke, he will of course concentrate so much for fulfilling his dream & Malaysia dream, MS Gold Medal at OG 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    I've no argument with you; but I wonder if you realise that you've just concurred with a few of my points, in your post? My line about "stagnation at the top" was meant to indicate that though he has reached the top of the ranking and remained there for such a long time (a huge achievement!) he has not taken his knowledge/ability/domination to the next and final level, where he can deal with the menace of LD (and now CL) and where he has demonstrated his achilles heelPlease do not be under the impression that Americans laugh at the sport, or do not give the sport the respect it deserves. It would be presumptious of anyone to jump to conclusions about this, or indeed of their true provenances. It is precisely my abiding interest and love for the sport itself that makes me intensely moved by the performances of the players, and of the administration and organisations.Your point about the human body, cycles and such is taken, but has never been disputed to begin with! On the other hand, you have also noted the lack of top-class support/infrastructure and proactiveness in the LCW camp. Why does he have to left to his own devices/judgement (impromptu?) when he should by rights have the best team backing him up? Who is to blame for this balls-up? What are the concerned people doing about it?Of course, if you are indirectly telling me that its none of my business because I am not based in that part of the world and have no real concept of what it takes there, I will happily back right off this thread. But you also need to appreciate that we are equally appreciative of great sportspersons regardless of their country of origin or representation, and we are equally concerned about improper application. On this forum, at least.Frankly, I find myself turning more often to reflect on the appropriateness of the verse of one of the greatest living poets, immortalized in one of his songs. I wonder how many people would appreciate it in the present context.And you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fearsTake the rag away from your faceNow ain't the time for your tears.
    Cobalt, let me say I have a lot of respect for your excellent, well thought out posts. However, there is no right or wrong opinion, more likely different or similar or outrageous or no opinions. You asked why LCW cannot have better support or coach? Well, if you were a world class coach with many options, and BAM is willing to pay you what you want, would you take it up knowing you would be reporting to a committee or NCC?

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    Arrow Badminton is stuck with National Associations

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    Plans need to be changed if they are not producing results. LCW, being with BAM, is stuck with BAM's methods (I guess).

    As I am also following various sports, I can see many of our Australian sports persons leaving Australia to go overseas to train. Yes, these are our our real 'independent' professional sports people.

    LCW is not an 'independent' Badminton player. He is part of BAM's system, and therefore is required to follow BAM's way of doing things.

    Somehow I find Badminton is stuck with National Associations. If I were LCW, I would become an 'independent' player, and hire my own coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjswift View Post
    Cobalt, let me say I have a lot of respect for your excellent, well thought out posts. However, there is no right or wrong opinion, more likely different or similar or outrageous or no opinions. You asked why LCW cannot have better support or coach? Well, if you were a world class coach with many options, and BAM is willing to pay you what you want, would you take it up knowing you would be reporting to a committee or NCC?
    ...and what did you think I had been shouting about for so long?

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    With the upcoming SS Final, there are a few interesting imaginary strategies that LCW could do. Throwing out ethics and assuming that the seeding plays out during round robin stage.

    What do you guys think would be the best strategy for LCW to maximize his chances of winning?

    1) LCW wins his group and then plays CL in the semi and then LD in the Final?
    2) LCW loses his group and then plays LD in the semi and then CL in the Final?

    I just put these 2 scenerios becasue I think these are the most likely outcomes coming out of the round robin stage? I also have either PG grabbing the 4th spot, but Simon has been playing good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V1lau View Post
    With the upcoming SS Final, there are a few interesting imaginary strategies that LCW could do. Throwing out ethics and assuming that the seeding plays out during round robin stage.

    What do you guys think would be the best strategy for LCW to maximize his chances of winning?

    1) LCW wins his group and then plays CL in the semi and then LD in the Final?
    2) LCW loses his group and then plays LD in the semi and then CL in the Final?

    I just put these 2 scenerios becasue I think these are the most likely outcomes coming out of the round robin stage? I also have either PG grabbing the 4th spot, but Simon has been playing good too.
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    The LD-vs-CL match is played first (before LCW's match); Therefore LCW can decide after seeing the result of the CHN's match.
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    lol
    lcw will win all the group match
    and face any of cl or ld
    he is not kiasu

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    The mark of a great champion is non-kiasuness, respect for the sport, and respect for the spectators paying money to watch them play.

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    That's our Datuk!!!! Just win all the matches and don't be a sissy like China with all their walkovers!!!! Datuk Boleh!!!! Malaysia boleh!!!

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    another lost to CL... why lee chong wei tends to make simple error recently? i found out after the world champ., he had made too many simple errors on court and his smashes is not deadly as b4... does his opponent read and studied his game very well? besides, CL is getting fitter, sharper on court... is he receiving special training as lin dan did? does LCW need misbun back?

    anyway, u can do it LCW!!! don't u ever give up

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    definitely misbun > TSB

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    agree with u.. i want misbun back to guide lcw
    Quote Originally Posted by volcom View Post
    definitely misbun > TSB

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    the thing is,lcw is not improving
    that's the problem
    hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    the thing is,lcw is not improving
    that's the problem
    hehe
    How come you can see the problem and the coaches can't.

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