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    Awww poor dutchies, your tournament is not regarded that highly. On the other hand, if he cheated on purpose he's really taken the phrase 'If you aren't cheating you aren't trying' to heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FEND.
    Awww poor dutchies, your tournament is not regarded that highly. On the other hand, if he cheated on purpose he's really taken the phrase 'If you aren't cheating you aren't trying' to heart.
    well, don't get me wrong, it is a big tournament, but the fact that many of the top players didn't participate made it less signifcant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun
    am i supposed to be reading between the lines there?



    i don't think so. the said player is not very famous and the said tournament won is not a major tournament. if someone really famous had won the WC, Olympics and subsequently tested positive for drugs, then the impact will be much worse.
    I think you've already read inbetween the lines.

    I get what you're saying about how it's different from a famous player using drugs and winning a major tournament like WC or the Olympic. It's like using drugs and winning the Tour de France right?

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    may I know when tested positive for doping, what do u mean by doping?
    Is it steroid? Morphine?
    If they meant steroid, then I dont see anyone who is potentially on steroid (at least not that Mr.X they mentioned in the article).. it is evident that none of the players size and build suggest that they are raging on steroids...
    if tested on morphine... perhaps its taken as analgesic?? which is completely legal if prescribed by a doctor... so... that article is very vague.. probably a media stunt....

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    this list of "banned substance" is quite extensive. i guess positive detection of any substance in the list is considered a violation for doping. for those interested, here is the prohibited list:


    September 16, 2006
    The World Anti-Doping Code
    THE 2007
    PROHIBITED LIST
    INTERNATIONAL
    STANDARD
    The official text of the Prohibited List shall be maintained by WADA and shall be
    published in English and French. In the event of any conflict between the English
    and French versions, the English version shall prevail.
    This List shall come into effect on 1 January 2007
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    THE 2007 PROHIBITED LIST
    WORLD ANTI-DOPING CODE
    Valid 1 January 2007
    The use of any drug should be limited to medically justified
    indications
    SUBSTANCES AND METHODS PROHIBITED AT ALL TIMES
    (IN- AND OUT-OF-COMPETITION)
    PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES
    S1. ANABOLIC AGENTS
    Anabolic agents are prohibited.
    1. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS)
    a. Exogenous* AAS, including:
    1-androstendiol (5α-androst-1-ene-3β,17β-diol ); 1-androstendione (5α-
    androst-1-ene-3,17-dione); bolandiol (19-norandrostenediol); bolasterone;
    boldenone; boldione (androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione); calusterone;
    clostebol; danazol (17α-ethynyl-17β-hydroxyandrost-4-eno[2,3-d]isoxazole);
    dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (4-chloro-17β-hydroxy-17α-methylandrosta-
    1,4-dien-3-one); desoxymethyltestosterone (17α-methyl-5α-androst-2-en-
    17β-ol); drostanolone; ethylestrenol (19-nor-17α-pregn-4-en-17-ol);
    fluoxymesterone; formebolone; furazabol (17β-hydroxy-17α-methyl-5α-
    androstano[2,3-c]-furazan); gestrinone; 4-hydroxytestosterone (4,17β-
    dihydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one); mestanolone; mesterolone; metenolone;
    methandienone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one);
    methandriol; methasterone (2α, 17α-dimethyl-5α-androstane-3-one-17β-ol);
    methyldienolone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestra-4,9-dien-3-one); methyl-1-
    testosterone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methyl-5α-androst-1-en-3-one);
    methylnortestosterone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestr-4-en-3-one);
    methyltrienolone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one);
    methyltestosterone; mibolerone; nandrolone; 19-norandrostenedione
    (estr-4-ene-3,17-dione); norboletone; norclostebol; norethandrolone;
    oxabolone; oxandrolone; oxymesterone; oxymetholone; prostanozol
    ([3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-etioallocholane-17β-tetrahydropyranol); quinbolone;
    stanozolol; stenbolone; 1-testosterone (17β-hydroxy-5α-androst-1-en-3-
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    one); tetrahydrogestrinone (18a-homo-pregna-4,9,11-trien-17β-ol-3-one);
    trenbolone and other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar
    biological effect(s).
    b. Endogenous** AAS:
    androstenediol (androst-5-ene-3β,17β-diol); androstenedione (androst-4-ene-
    3,17-dione); dihydrotestosterone (17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one) ;
    prasterone (dehydroepiandrosterone, DHEA); testosterone
    and the following metabolites and isomers:
    5α-androstane-3α,17α-diol; 5α-androstane-3α,17β-diol; 5α-androstane-
    3β,17α-diol; 5α-androstane-3β,17β-diol; androst-4-ene-3α,17α-diol;
    androst-4-ene-3α,17β-diol; androst-4-ene-3β,17α-diol; androst-5-ene-
    3α,17α-diol; androst-5-ene-3α,17β-diol; androst-5-ene-3β,17α-diol;
    4-androstenediol (androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol); 5-androstenedione (androst-5-
    ene-3,17-dione); epi-dihydrotestosterone; 3α-hydroxy-5α-androstan-17-
    one; 3β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-17-one; 19-norandrosterone; 19-
    noretiocholanolone.
    Where an anabolic androgenic steroid is capable of being produced endogenously,
    a Sample will be deemed to contain such Prohibited Substance where the
    concentration of such Prohibited Substance or its metabolites or markers and/or
    any other relevant ratio(s) in the Athlete’s Sample so deviates from the range of
    values normally found in humans that it is unlikely to be consistent with normal
    endogenous production. A Sample shall not be deemed to contain a Prohibited
    Substance in any such case where an Athlete proves that the concentration of the
    Prohibited Substance or its metabolites or markers and/or the relevant ratio(s) in
    the Athlete’s Sample is attributable to a physiological or pathological condition.
    In all cases, and at any concentration, the Athlete’s sample will be deemed to
    contain a Prohibited Substance and the laboratory will report an Adverse
    Analytical Finding if, based on any reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS), the
    laboratory can show that the Prohibited Substance is of exogenous origin. In such
    case, no further investigation is necessary.
    If a value in the range of levels normally found in humans is reported and the
    reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS) has not determined the exogenous origin of
    the substance, but if there are indications, such as a comparison to endogenous
    reference steroid profiles, of a possible Use of a Prohibited Substance, further
    investigation shall be conducted by the relevant Anti-Doping Organization by
    reviewing the results of any previous test(s) or by conducting subsequent test(s),
    in order to determine whether the result is due to a physiological or pathological
    condition, or has occurred as a consequence of the exogenous origin of a
    Prohibited Substance.
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    When a laboratory has reported a T/E ratio greater than four (4) to one (1) and
    any reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS) applied has not determined the
    exogenous origin of the substance, further investigation may be conducted by a
    review of previous tests or by conducting subsequent test(s), in order to
    determine whether the result is due to a physiological or pathological condition, or
    has occurred as a consequence of the exogenous origin of a Prohibited Substance.
    If a laboratory reports, using an additional reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS),
    that the Prohibited Substance is of exogenous origin, no further investigation is
    necessary and the Sample will be deemed to contain such Prohibited Substance.
    When an additional reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS) has not been applied
    and a minimum of three previous test results are not available, a longitudinal
    profile of the Athlete shall be established by performing a minimum of three no
    advance notice tests in a period of three months by the relevant Anti-Doping
    Organization. If the longitudinal profile of the Athlete established by the
    subsequent tests is not physiologically normal, the result shall be reported as an
    Adverse Analytical Finding.
    In extremely rare individual cases, boldenone of endogenous origin can be
    consistently found at very low nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) levels in urine.
    When such a very low concentration of boldenone is reported by a laboratory and
    the application of any reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS) has not determined
    the exogenous origin of the substance, further investigation may be conducted by
    subsequent tests. When an additional reliable analytical method (e.g. IRMS) has
    not been applied, a longitudinal profile of the athlete shall be established by
    performing a minimum of three no advance notice tests in a period of three
    months by the relevant Anti-Doping Organization. If the longitudinal profile of the
    Athlete established by the subsequent tests is not physiologically normal, the
    result shall be reported as an Adverse Analytical Finding.
    For 19-norandrosterone, an Adverse Analytical Finding reported by a laboratory is
    considered to be scientific and valid proof of exogenous origin of the Prohibited
    Substance. In such case, no further investigation is necessary.
    Should an Athlete fail to cooperate in the investigations, the Athlete’s Sample
    shall be deemed to contain a Prohibited Substance.
    2. Other Anabolic Agents, including but not limited to:
    Clenbuterol, tibolone, zeranol, zilpaterol.
    For purposes of this section:
    * “exogenous” refers to a substance which is not ordinarily capable of being
    produced by the body naturally.
    ** “endogenous” refers to a substance which is capable of being produced by the
    body naturally.
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    S2. HORMONES AND RELATED SUBSTANCES
    The following substances, including other substances with a similar chemical
    structure or similar biological effect(s), and their releasing factors, are prohibited:
    1. Erythropoietin (EPO);
    2. Growth Hormone (hGH), Insulin-like Growth Factors (e.g. IGF-1),
    Mechano Growth Factors (MGFs);
    3. Gonadotrophins (LH, hCG), prohibited in males only;
    4. Insulin;
    5. Corticotrophins.
    Unless the Athlete can demonstrate that the concentration was due to a
    physiological or pathological condition, a Sample will be deemed to contain a
    Prohibited Substance (as listed above) where the concentration of the Prohibited
    Substance or its metabolites and/or relevant ratios or markers in the Athlete’s
    Sample so exceeds the range of values normally found in humans that it is
    unlikely to be consistent with normal endogenous production.
    If a laboratory reports, using a reliable analytical method, that the Prohibited
    Substance is of exogenous origin, the Sample will be deemed to contain a
    Prohibited Substance and shall be reported as an Adverse Analytical Finding.
    The presence of other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar
    biological effect(s), diagnostic marker(s) or releasing factors of a hormone listed
    above or of any other finding which indicate(s) that the substance detected is of
    exogenous origin, will be deemed to reflect the use of a Prohibited Substance and
    shall be reported as an Adverse Analytical Finding.
    S3. BETA-2 AGONISTS
    All beta-2 agonists including their D- and L-isomers are prohibited.
    As an exception, formoterol, salbutamol, salmeterol and terbutaline when
    administered by inhalation, require an abbreviated Therapeutic Use Exemption.
    Despite the granting of any form of Therapeutic Use Exemption, a concentration
    of salbutamol (free plus glucuronide) greater than 1000 ng/mL will be considered
    an Adverse Analytical Finding unless the Athlete proves that the abnormal result
    was the consequence of the therapeutic use of inhaled salbutamol.
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    S4. AGENTS WITH ANTI-ESTROGENIC ACTIVITY
    The following classes of anti-estrogenic substances are prohibited:
    1. Aromatase inhibitors including, but not limited to, anastrozole,
    letrozole, aminoglutethimide, exemestane, formestane, testolactone.
    2. Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs) including, but not
    limited to, raloxifene, tamoxifen, toremifene.
    3. Other anti-estrogenic substances including, but not limited to,
    clomiphene, cyclofenil, fulvestrant.
    S5. DIURETICS AND OTHER MASKING AGENTS
    Masking agents are prohibited. They include:
    Diuretics*, epitestosterone, probenecid, alpha-reductase inhibitors (e.g.
    finasteride, dutasteride), plasma expanders (e.g. albumin, dextran,
    hydroxyethyl starch) and other substances with similar biological effect(s).
    Diuretics include:
    acetazolamide, amiloride, bumetanide, canrenone, chlorthalidone,
    etacrynic acid, furosemide, indapamide, metolazone, spironolactone,
    thiazides (e.g. bendroflumethiazide, chlorothiazide, hydrochlorothiazide),
    triamterene, and other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar
    biological effect(s) (except for drosperinone, which is not prohibited).
    * A Therapeutic Use Exemption is not valid if an Athlete’s urine contains a diuretic
    in association with threshold or sub-threshold levels of a Prohibited
    Substance(s).
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    PROHIBITED METHODS
    M1. ENHANCEMENT OF OXYGEN TRANSFER
    The following are prohibited:
    1. Blood doping, including the use of autologous, homologous or heterologous
    blood or red blood cell products of any origin.
    2. Artificially enhancing the uptake, transport or delivery of oxygen, including
    but not limited to perfluorochemicals, efaproxiral (RSR13) and modified
    haemoglobin products (e.g. haemoglobin-based blood substitutes,
    microencapsulated haemoglobin products).
    M2. CHEMICAL AND PHYSICAL MANIPULATION
    1. Tampering, or attempting to tamper, in order to alter the integrity and
    validity of Samples collected during Doping Controls is prohibited. These
    include but are not limited to catheterisation, urine substitution and/or
    alteration.
    2. Intravenous infusions are prohibited, except as a legitimate medical
    treatment.
    M3. GENE DOPING
    The non-therapeutic use of cells, genes, genetic elements, or of the modulation of
    gene expression, having the capacity to enhance athletic performance, is
    prohibited.
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    SUBSTANCES AND METHODS
    PROHIBITED IN-COMPETITION
    In addition to the categories S1 to S5 and M1 to M3 defined above,
    the following categories are prohibited in competition:
    PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES
    S6. STIMULANTS
    All stimulants (including both their (D- & L-) optical isomers where relevant) are
    prohibited, except imidazole derivatives for topical use and those stimulants
    included in the 2007 Monitoring Program*.
    Stimulants include:
    Adrafinil, adrenaline**, amfepramone, amiphenazole, amphetamine,
    amphetaminil, benzphetamine, benzylpiperazine, bromantan, cathine***,
    clobenzorex, cocaine, cropropamide, crotetamide, cyclazodone,
    dimethylamphetamine, ephedrine****, etamivan, etilamphetamine,
    etilefrine, famprofazone, fenbutrazate, fencamfamin, fencamine,
    fenetylline, fenfluramine, fenproporex, furfenorex, heptaminol,
    isometheptene, levmethamfetamine, meclofenoxate, mefenorex,
    mephentermine, mesocarb, methamphetamine (D-),
    methylenedioxyamphetamine, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, pmethylamphetamine,
    methylephedrine****, methylphenidate, modafinil,
    nikethamide, norfenefrine, norfenfluramine, octopamine, ortetamine,
    oxilofrine, parahydroxyamphetamine, pemoline, pentetrazol,
    phendimetrazine, phenmetrazine, phenpromethamine, phentermine, 4-
    phenylpiracetam (carphedon), prolintane, propylhexedrine, selegiline,
    sibutramine, strychnine, tuaminoheptane and other substances with a similar
    chemical structure or similar biological effect(s).
    * The following substances included in the 2007 Monitoring Program (bupropion,
    caffeine, phenylephrine, phenylpropanolamine, pipradol, pseudoephedrine,
    synephrine) are not considered as Prohibited Substances.
    ** Adrenaline associated with local anaesthetic agents or by local administration
    (e.g. nasal, ophthalmologic) is not prohibited.
    *** Cathine is prohibited when its concentration in urine is greater than 5
    micrograms per milliliter.
    **** Each of ephedrine and methylephedrine is prohibited when its
    concentration in urine is greater than 10 micrograms per milliliter.
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    A stimulant not expressly mentioned as an example under this section should be
    considered as a Specified Substance only if the Athlete can establish that the
    substance is particularly susceptible to unintentional anti-doping rule violations
    because of its general availability in medicinal products or is less likely to be
    successfully abused as a doping agent.
    S7. NARCOTICS
    The following narcotics are prohibited:
    buprenorphine, dextromoramide, diamorphine (heroin), fentanyl and its
    derivatives, hydromorphone, methadone, morphine, oxycodone,
    oxymorphone, pentazocine, pethidine.
    S8. CANNABINOIDS
    Cannabinoids (e.g. hashish, marijuana) are prohibited.
    S9. GLUCOCORTICOSTEROIDS
    All glucocorticosteroids are prohibited when administered orally, rectally,
    intravenously or intramuscularly. Their use requires a Therapeutic Use Exemption
    approval.
    Other routes of administration (intraarticular /periarticular/ peritendinous/
    epidural/ intradermal injections and inhalation) require an Abbreviated
    Therapeutic Use Exemption except as noted below.
    Topical preparations when used for dermatological (including
    iontophoresis/phonophoresis), auricular, nasal, ophthalmic, buccal, gingival and
    perianal disorders are not prohibited and do not require any form of Therapeutic
    Use Exemption.
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    SUBSTANCES PROHIBITED IN PARTICULAR
    SPORTS
    P1. ALCOHOL
    Alcohol (ethanol) is prohibited in-competition only, in the following sports.
    Detection will be conducted by analysis of breath and/or blood. The doping
    violation threshold (haematological values) for each Federation is reported in
    parenthesis.
    • Aeronautic (FAI) (0.20 g/L)
    • Archery (FITA, IPC) (0.10 g/L)
    • Automobile (FIA) (0.10 g/L)
    • Boules (CMSB, (0.10 g/L)
    IPC bowls)
    • Karate (WKF) (0.10 g/L)
    • Modern Pentathlon (UIPM) (0.10 g/L)
    for disciplines involving shooting
    • Motorcycling (FIM) (0.10 g/L)
    • Powerboating (UIM) (0.30 g/L)
    P2. BETA-BLOCKERS
    Unless otherwise specified, beta-blockers are prohibited in-competition only, in
    the following sports.
    • Aeronautic (FAI)
    • Archery (FITA, IPC) (also prohibited
    out-of-competition)
    • Automobile (FIA)
    • Billiards (WCBS)
    • Bobsleigh (FIBT)
    • Boules (CMSB, IPC bowls)
    • Bridge (FMB)
    • Curling (WCF)
    • Gymnastics (FIG)
    • Motorcycling (FIM)
    • Modern Pentathlon (UIPM) for
    disciplines involving shooting
    • Nine-pin bowling (FIQ)
    • Sailing (ISAF) for match race
    helms only
    • Shooting (ISSF, IPC) (also
    prohibited out-of-competition)
    • Skiing/Snowboarding (FIS) in ski
    jumping, freestyle aerials/halfpipe
    and snowboard halfpipe/big air
    • Wrestling (FILA)
    Beta-blockers include, but are not limited to, the following:
    acebutolol, alprenolol, atenolol, betaxolol, bisoprolol, bunolol, carteolol,
    carvedilol, celiprolol, esmolol, labetalol, levobunolol, metipranolol,
    metoprolol, nadolol, oxprenolol, pindolol, propranolol, sotalol, timolol.
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    SPECIFIED SUBSTANCES*
    “Specified Substances”* are listed below:
    • All inhaled Beta-2 Agonists, except salbutamol (free plus glucuronide)
    greater than 1000 ng/mL and clenbuterol;
    • Probenecid;
    • Cathine, cropropamide, crotetamide, ephedrine, etamivan, famprofazone,
    heptaminol, isometheptene, levmethamfetamine, meclofenoxate,
    p-methylamphetamine, methylephedrine, nikethamide, norfenefrine,
    octopamine, ortetamine, oxilofrine, phenpromethamine, propylhexedrine,
    selegiline, sibutramine, tuaminoheptane, and any other stimulant not
    expressly listed under section S6 for which the Athlete establishes that it
    fulfils the conditions described in section S6;
    • Cannabinoids;
    • All Glucocorticosteroids;
    • Alcohol;
    • All Beta Blockers.
    * “The Prohibited List may identify specified substances which are particularly
    susceptible to unintentional anti-doping rule violations because of their general
    availability in medicinal products or which are less likely to be successfully abused
    as doping agents.” A doping violation involving such substances may result in a
    reduced sanction provided that the “…Athlete can establish that the Use of such a
    specified substance was not intended to enhance sport performance…”

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    here is the PDF file attached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simp84
    may I know when tested positive for doping, what do u mean by doping?
    Is it steroid? Morphine?
    If they meant steroid, then I dont see anyone who is potentially on steroid (at least not that Mr.X they mentioned in the article).. it is evident that none of the players size and build suggest that they are raging on steroids...
    if tested on morphine... perhaps its taken as analgesic?? which is completely legal if prescribed by a doctor... so... that article is very vague.. probably a media stunt....
    These days, steroids are so sophisticated that they are "designed" for specific functions. You're probably referring to the steroids that provides muscle bulk. There are specific steroids that allow the athelete to sustain their energy levels longer or elevate their endurance. So the build of a badminton player is not a necessarily a good judge of whether a player is taking performance enhancing drugs.

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    Exclamation Dope Shuttlers? Who is he?

    DOPE SHOCKER!
    by RIZAL HASHIM MALAYSIAN badminton has been rocked with the shocking news a shuttler had tested positive for a banned substance in a recent tournament in Europe.
    It’s all hush-hush in the domestic fraternity but Mailsport learnt the B portion of the player’s urine sample is being re-tested.

    It is probably the first positive test involving a badminton player.

    The shuttler is not among those participating in the ongoing Malaysian Open at the KLBA Stadium.

    The player, who quit the BA of Malaysia (BAM) stable a few years ago, is ranked in the world’s top 20.

    He is currently attached full-time with a club.

    Besides winning a Grand Prix title, he also reached the last eight of a few other tournaments last year.

    BA of Malaysia (BAM) and Badminton World Federation (BWF) officials are keeping mum since the testing process is supposed to remain confidential in accordance with the procedures in the World Anti-Doping Code.

    When an athlete provides a urine sample, he or she divides it into A and B portions.

    The two bottles are sealed in the presence of the athlete, and a strict chain of protocol is followed to transport the samples to a lab.

    The A portion is tested, and if a positive finding is made, it is retested for confirmation.

    The retest is usually done by a different technician and on a different and generally more sophisticated instrument to rule out human error.

    If the A test is confirmed positive, the B portion of the sample is also tested.

    The result of the B sample is considered the final result, and it almost always confirms the result of the A sample.

    If the B sample is negative, however, the positive A result is thrown out.

    If the test confirms the result, the ramifications are plenty for the shuttler.

    It could spell the end of his career for under international rules, a two-year suspension is mandatory.

    He, however, is allowed the opportunity to exhaust all avenues to prove his innocence.

    While it could well be the first case involving a badminton player, athletes from football, athletics, weightlifting, sepak takraw and bodybuilding have had their fair share of doping offences in recent times.

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    I think I know who he is....but it's just a guess....Ismail Saman??

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    Sairul Amar Ayob

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    Did they win the Dutch Open?

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    Ismail Saman participated in the MO.

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    HE won the Dutch Open 2006.

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    Its prolly some active ingredient in them tongkat ali supplements.

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    I hear he was caught doping in tournament......is it true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfa2
    I hear he was caught doping in tournament......is it true?
    whats the final result of the testing of the B sample? is he guilty as charged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yannie
    HE won the Dutch Open 2006.
    Confirm, it's Sairul Amar AYOB, just check the result.

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