Prediction Game : Pick-A-Winner (PAW) #1 – KOREA OPEN - 2007

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    PAW (PICK-A-WINNER): INTRODUCTION​




    The game was adopted from WTA forum and currently active and the most popular game in WTA & ATP forums.
    Thank's to Simon (England) as The Founder of the game.

    The rules are simple: Just pick the winners of any 21 Single's Main Draw matches. You choose the matches and you pick the winners. You get more points for picking low-ranked winners than for picking high-ranked winners.


    Example

    The Fixtures and Scoring Points:

    LIN, Dan.(1)............. vs HIDAYAT, Taufik.......... ( 7 - 15 )
    JONASSEN, Kenneth.(7).... vs LEE, Yen Hui Kendrick.... ( 7 - 15 )
    GADE, Peter.(3).......... vs PANG Eric................ ( 7 - 14 )
    CHEN, Yu.(8)............. vs PALYAMA, Dicky........... ( 8 - 12 )
    YEOH, Kay Bin............ vs SMITH, Andrew............ ( 11 - 9 )


    The numbers after the fixtures are the Scoring Points. These are the respective points you score for picking each player. So if you pick LIN to beat HIDAYAT and LIN wins then you score 7 points.
    But if you pick HIDAYAT to win and HE wins then you score 15 points. Of course, if you pick HIDAYAT and he loses you score nothing at all.


    Your Picks:
    PAW1: HIDAYAT over LIN
    PAW2: GADE over PANG
    PAW3: YEOH over SMITH
    PAW4: CHEN YU over PALYAMA


    (Since you are limited to 21 matches in the tournament, in an actual game you may choose to 'pass' on some of these matches.)


    The Results:

    (Results from Malaysia Open 2007)

    LIN, Dan.(1)....... bt HIDAYAT, Taufik.... 21-19, 23-21
    You picked HIDAYAT so you score nothing.

    GADE, Peter.(3).... bt PANG, Eric.......... 22-20, 21-11
    You picked GADE so you score 7.

    YEOH, Kay Bin...... bt SMITH, Andrew...... 21-16, 12-21, 21-17
    You picked YEOH so you score 11.

    CHEN, Yu.(8)....... bt PALYAMA, Dicky..... 20-24, 21-14, 22-20
    You picked CHEN YU so you score 8.

    So from those four matches you would have scored a total of 7 +11 + 8 = 26points.

    The player with the most points at the end of the tournament is the winner.
    A 'league table' is maintained in the PAW thread throughout.


    How to Play

    Just go to the PAW thread in the tournament forum, study the Fixtures and Scoring Points and name your picks. The Fixtures and Scoring Points will appear when the First Round draw is made.


    Rules

    1. The 21 matches you choose can be from ANY rounds in the main draw. I just need to receive your picks before the matches begin. (For instance, you might choose 10 First Round Matches, 6 Second Round matches, 2 Quarter Finals, both Semis and the Final. Or you could choose 12 First Round matches and the Final.)

    The only stipulation is that you may not make all of your picks in the same round.

    EXCEPTIONS: For both 64-draw tournaments for Men's Single's Women's Single's you are allowed 26 picks, for one 64-draw one 32-draw tournaments you are allowed 23 picks and for 16-draw tournaments on both category you are allowed only 13 picks.

    2. You get more points for picking low-ranked players than for picking high-ranked players. So for each of your selected matches you can choose to go for a longshot or to play it safe.

    3. The Scoring Points for each Fixture will be posted at the top of the PAW thread when the fixtures are known.

    4. To play you just need to specify 21 winners over the course of the event. There are no 'Commitments' - anyone can play. Just post, PM or email your picks at your convenience.

    5. Please post your picks in the following format:

    PAWn: Your Pick over Your Pick's Opponent

    E.g. PAW8: HIDAYAT over LIN

    should indicate which of your 21 chosen fixtures it is. (So your last chosen fixture should be labelled PAW21.)

    This is to help me keep track of all your Picks; to help you keep track of each other's Picks; and to help you to keep track of your own Picks!

    6. Please specify the full surname of the players - no abbreviations or nicknames please.

    7. You should make your picks in the PAW thread, or send them to me by PM or email. If you email, do remember to include your badmintoncentral.com Forum handle.

    8. You just need to send me your 21 picks over the course of the tournament.

    9. The Scoring Points are derived using the BWF World Ranking System.

    10. You are allowed to send your picks before the Fixtures and Scoring Points have been posted on the thread.

    11. Of course, Picks must be made before the match begins. If there is a chance the match had started when the Pick was posted then that Pick cannot be accepted. This rule is applied very strictly.

    Post Email your picks before the session of play begins to ensure your picks are accepted.

    This is so everyone knows your pick was made before the match started. (Match start times are not recorded, so picks made five minutes before a match starts cannot normally be accepted.)

    NOTE: There is a Closing Time for each match. The Closing Time is the time after which Picks will be deemed invalid.

    12. Once a Pick is posted in the PAW thread, it may not be changed or deleted.

    I frequently take copies of the thread text at regular intervals and the Picks are entered into a database.

    NOTE: Invalid Picks (e.g. duplicates) may be re-entered. Please put them in a new post rather than editing the original one.

    13. If a player withdraws before a match begins then all Picks for that match become invalid.

    Replacement Picks may be made. If it is impossible to make a replacement Pick (for instance, if the match involved is the tournament final) it is unfortunate and no Scoring Points are awarded.

    This rule applies to all matches not played. When a player retired during match, Scoring Points are awarded who picked the winner although the score just
    1-0 retired
    or deficit score, example : 18-21 5-5 retired.

    14. Each player's points are tallied and the player with the most points at the end of the tournament is declared the winner. In the event of a tie there is no 'tiebreaker'.

    15. The 'League Table' is maintained daily throughout the tournament. Here's an example the end of the tournament:

    --------Player---------- .P .*W .*L .*Pts
    *1. badMania............ .21 .18 ..3 .179
    *2. madbad.............. .20 .17 ..3 .169
    *3. ctjcad.............. .21 .16 ..5 .161
    *4. Loh................. .21 .15 ..6 .150
    *5. ants................ .21 .14 ..7 .139
    *.. nugroho............. .21 .13 ..8 .139
    *7. yannie.............. .21 .13 ..8 .138
    *8. Sandy............... .21 .12 ..9 .132
    ...
    ...
    29. XXXX................ ..5 ..4 ..1 ..27
    30. YYYY................ ..1 ..0 ..1 ...0




    16. The PAW Ranking System closely mirrors the WTA Ranking System. Ranking Points are awarded

    according to positions in the Final League Table of each tournament.
    Code:
    [font="Courier New"][color="DarkGreen"]
    1st --- 9200 ...... 9th ---- 4370 ...... 17th --- 2920 ...... 25th --- 1800
    2nd --- 7800 ...... 10th --- 4160 ...... 18th --- 2750 ...... 26th --- 1680
    3rd --- 6800 ...... 11th --- 3960 ...... 19th --- 2600 ...... 27th --- 1560
    4th --- 6000 ...... 12th --- 3770 ...... 20th --- 2460 ...... 28th --- 1440
    5th --- 5500 ...... 13th --- 3580 ...... 21st --- 2320 ...... 29th --- 1320
    6th --- 5150 ...... 14th --- 3400 ...... 22nd --- 2180 ...... 30th --- 1210
    7th --- 4850 ...... 15th --- 3230 ...... 23rd --- 2050 ...... 31st --- 1100
    8th --- 4600 ...... 16th --- 3070 ...... 24th --- 1920 ...... 32nd --- 1000[/color][/font]

    badMania got 9200 pts as 1st winner
    madbad got 7800 pts as 2nd winner, etc
    ants & nugroho tied in 5th placed, got average ranking points from 5th & 6th, (5500+5150)/2
    = 5325


    17. You can play just one PAW game at a time. When more than one tournament is run simultaneously, and there are PAW games for each of them, you must choose one tournament to enter.

    18. The decisions of the Organizer (that's me!) are final.

    Please feel free to post, PM or email me with any questions.



    Cheers and Good Luck,

    Sandy


    For illustration,
    here is link of PAW WTA Games,

    PAW Australian Open 2007 (this week tournament)
    http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=280649
     
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    Pick-A-Winner (PAW) #1 – KOREA OPEN - 2007


    Welcome to Pick-A-Winner (PAW), the Predictions game!

    Playing is simple: over the course of the tournament choose any 21 matches in the Single's Main Draw and post who you think will win them.


    League Table KOREA OPEN 2007 Day-1​

    .#. Player................P....W....L....Pts



    The Most Pickers Match

    -------------Matches-----------------------Picks---Win--Loss





    The Fixtures and Scoring Points:


    First Round

    Men's Single's

    LIN, Dan.(1)............. vs LEE, Yen Hui Kendrick.... ( 5 - 18 )
    WACHA, Przemyslaw........ vs JOPPIEN, Bjoern.......... ( 10 - 10 )
    JONASSEN, Kenneth (8).... vs HASHIM, M. Roslin........ ( 8 - 13 )
    PANG, Eric............... vs Q-1 ..................... (..TBA..)

    GADE, Peter (3).......... vs CHEN, Yu................. ( 9 - 11 )
    YEOH, Kay Bin............ vs OEDUM, Kasper............ ( 9 - 11 )
    BAO, Chunlai (6)......... vs PARK, Sung Hwan.......... ( 6 - 16 )
    CHAN, Yan Kit............ vs Q-2 ..................... (..TBA..)

    KUAN, Beng Hong.......... vs Q-4 ..................... (..TBA..)
    LEE, Tsuen Seng.......... vs LEE, Hyun Il.(7)......... ( 14 - 7 )
    NG, Wei.................. vs Q-3 ..................... (..TBA..)
    HASHIM, Muhd Hafiz B..... vs CHEN, Hong.(4)........... ( 12 - 9 )

    MOODY, John.............. vs PALYAMA, Dicky........... ( 12 - 8 )
    VAUGHAN, Richard......... vs CHEN, Jin (5)............ ( 16 - 6 )
    SMITH, Andrew............ vs SATO, Shoji.............. ( 8 - 12 )
    PONSANA, Boonsak......... vs LEE, Chong Wei (2)....... ( 12 - 8 )


    Women's Single's

    ZHANG, Ning (1).......... vs HUANG, Chia-Chi.......... ( 6 - 17 )
    Q-4 ..................... vs HINDLEY, Rachel.......... (..TBA..)
    PI, Hongyan (6).......... vs WONG, Pei Xian Julia..... ( 7 - 14 )
    Q-2 ..................... vs NEDELTCHEVA, Petya....... (..TBA..)

    XU, Huaiwen (4).......... vs LI, Li................... ( 7 - 15 )
    YIP, Pui Yin............. vs SCHENK, Juliane.......... ( 9 - 12 )
    ZHU, Lin (8)............. vs RICE, Anna............... ( 7 - 15 )
    RASMUSSEN, Tine.......... vs HUGHES, Susan............ ( 8 - 12 )

    MORI, Kaori.............. vs WONG, Mew Choo........... ( 9 - 11 )
    HIROSE, Eriko............ vs LU, Lan (5).............. ( 13 - 8 )
    Q-1 ..................... vs PAI, Min Jie............. (..TBA..)
    WANG Lin................. vs WANG Chen (3)............ ( 17 - 6 )

    HIRAYAMA, Yu............. vs KARACHKOVA, Ella......... ( 11 - 9 )
    NIEMINEN, Anu............ vs YAO, Jie.(7)............. ( 15 - 7 )
    Q-3 ..................... vs MEULENDIJKS, Judith...... (..TBA..)
    HWANG, Hye Youn.......... vs XIE, Xingfang.(2)........ ( 16 - 6 )




    Code:
    [b][u]Ranking Points for Korea Open 2007 (Super Series)[/u][/b]
    [font="Courier New"] [color="Darkgreen"]
    1st --- 9200 ...... 9th ---- 4370 ...... 17th --- 2920 ...... 25th --- 1800
    2nd --- 7800 ...... 10th --- 4160 ...... 18th --- 2750 ...... 26th --- 1680
    3rd --- 6800 ...... 11th --- 3960 ...... 19th --- 2600 ...... 27th --- 1560
    4th --- 6000 ...... 12th --- 3770 ...... 20th --- 2460 ...... 28th --- 1440
    5th --- 5500 ...... 13th --- 3580 ...... 21st --- 2320 ...... 29th --- 1320
    6th --- 5150 ...... 14th --- 3400 ...... 22nd --- 2180 ...... 30th --- 1210
    7th --- 4850 ...... 15th --- 3230 ...... 23rd --- 2050 ...... 31st --- 1100
    8th --- 4600 ...... 16th --- 3070 ...... 24th --- 1920 ...... 32nd --- 1000[/color][/font]

    Time in Korea Use this
    When the board is down (or slow), please email to sandg_sp@yahoo.com

    Remember, the Scoring Points beside each fixture represent the points you score if the

    corresponding player wins.
    Don't forget, you're limited to 21 picks throughout the whole tournament.

    Good luck!


    Cheers for now,

    Sandy
     
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    Picks Sumarry I
     
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    Picks Sumarry II
     
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    I will request allowed edit post #2, #3, and #4 to post the scoring points and the standing day by day. If not allowed, I will post it in other thread.
     
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    I start to post my PAWs

    PAW01 : CHEN, Hong over HASHIM, M.H.
    PAW02 : HIRAYAMA over KARACHKOVA
    PAW03 : RASMUSSEN over HUGHES
     
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    so where do i pick the paw thingy???
     
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    post it in this thread
    I have posted my PAWs in post#7 already

    Good Luck
     
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    PAW04 : WONG M.C. over MORI
    PAW05 : OEDUM over YEOH
     
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    PAW01 : Przemyslaw Wacha over Bjoern Joppien
    PAW02 : Wong Mew Choo over Kaori Mori
    PAW03 : Yeoh Kay Bin over Kasper Oedum
    PAW04 : Jafiz Hashim over Chen Hong
     
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    My PAWs

    PAW01: HIROSE, Eriko over LU Lan
    PAW02: SATO, Shoji over SMITH, Andrew
    PAW03: PARK, Sung Hwan over BAO, Chun Lai
     
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    park sung hwan over bao chunlai??? hmmm its not impossible but i would 75-25 in favour of bao... sorry but its a fact.. anyways good luck!!!
     
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    I welcome this kind of game, but it must be tremendously tedious for you, Sandy. Do you have some kind of automation to make this easier for you? In fact, I don't think it is very difficult (not saying it's very easy, either) to automate this.

    What is your formula to come up with the scoring points?
     
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    Gimme some webspace and sometime (~ 1-2 months) I'll automate it for you :)
     
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    My PAWs (Cont...)

    PAW04: HIRAYAMA, Yu over KARACHKOVA, Ella
    PAW05: Q-4 over KUAN, Beng Hong :p

    KBH loose regardless whoever his opponent...
     
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    in big number player and WTA & ATP tournament wich held almost every week, this game run by team (not all of them have automation). It's not full automation, I just have little program to make some calculation, League Table, Scoring Points and PAW Ranking (following WTA Ranking and BWF world Ranking).

    Scoring points was counted based on square root comparation of BWF Ranking Point. A little adjusment by substract a few points because of BWF Ranking points too "flat".
     
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    Hi, i am newbie here :)

    Here's my PAWs:

    PAW01 GADE, Peter Over CHEN, Yu
    PAW02 HASHIM Muhd Hafiz B Over CHEN, Hong
    PAW03 SATO, Shoji Over SMITH, Andrew
    PAW04 WONG, Mew Choo Over MORI, Kaori
     
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    PAW1 - Wang Lin > Wang Chen (go wang lin!! you are so cute :D )

    PAW2 - Chen Hong > Hashim Muhd Hafiz B

    PAW3 - Wong Mew Choo > Mori Kaori

    PAW4 - Yip Pui Yin > Schenk, Juliane

    PAW5 - Sato Shoji > Andrew Smith

    this is like gambling without money,i think its much better than stating obvious(more certain) winners as it sometimes makes you step back from the national pride and chooses the players that is more certain to win (to a degree, i supposed no one want to paw on LD as he gives us too little in return :p )
     
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    Hehe..

    ..Sandy, i'm not trying to be a "prize-hunter", and don't know if i missed it or not, but is there a prize for winning this game of yours??..hehehe:p :D:eek: ;)
     

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