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01-24-2007, 02:34 AM #18Originally Posted by lurker
Lighting conditions in badminton halls where open championships are played are not that difficult. I would not consider such conditions extreme.
If you think it useful, I can suggest some tricks, like how to tilt, pan, move around, how to guestimate degree of potential blur with different focal length and aperture. etc. that you may find useful in taking pictures in a badminton hall.
01-24-2007, 02:49 AM #19Originally Posted by taneepak
Fortunately I can hold a camera properly so I have no need for a tripod for indoor badminton photography.
As an interested photographer who visits photo forums, i notice there are always a few who 'talk big' about photo techniques, but when their photo portfolios are revealed, one wonders whether they possess the techniques they talk a lot about. Of course there are different types:
(1) People who are lousy photographers who like to act like they are experts in the field
(2) People who can take a decent photograph of a flower, and assume that this qualifies them to talk authoritatively about a completely different type of photograph like indoor sports photography even though they've never even tried it themselves.
01-24-2007, 03:13 AM #20Originally Posted by storkbill
01-24-2007, 07:16 PM #21Originally Posted by lurker
Let us discuss the above more because it could be interesting, besides asking for credentials. The above could touch on one of the most dramatic way of capturing a sports scene.
01-24-2007, 07:44 PM #22Originally Posted by taneepak
When I say I take photographs in a particular way, I have actual photographs that illustrate the technique I am telling others about. If you have not even taken any photographs using a technique you are telling others to adopt, why should we take it on faith that it will even work since you haven't even tried it yourself?
And no, telling me that this technique works when photographing still life in a studio doesn't lead me to believe that it will work for badminton photography.
To put it in badminton terms, I wouldn't want to learn badminton from a coach who can give me lots of wonderful theory, but when I ask him to demonstrate to me the stroke or movement, he can't do it
Last edited by storkbill; 01-24-2007 at 07:50 PM.
01-25-2007, 01:59 AM #23
something beyond wb!
surge great! but you should have started it earlier!
here comes my example. that pic was shot at 1/320 sec during the hk hko06 and it was cropped from my original.
i just want you guys to pay attention to 3 different parts of that pic. jiang's face, the shuttle and the fedex logo.
what's gonna happen if 1/60 sec was used instead of 1/320 sec? will a strong tripod be helpful in that case? will a smooth panning and tilting technique useful?
the shuttle looks blurry. only focus/dof problem? no! in fact they were all moving at 1/320 sec!
01-25-2007, 02:54 AM #24
Nice capture Red. Jiang's eyes totally focusing on the shuttle, very very nice. Just wish I were able to get shots like these.
01-25-2007, 02:56 AM #25Originally Posted by kwun
01-25-2007, 03:51 AM #26
movement at 1/320 sec againOriginally Posted by viver
i m clearing up my portable hd at the moment. at the same time i m trying to find some images which might be useful here.
here is one more. see how a shuttle moves within 1/320 sec. shutter speed of 1/320 sec means nothing to sports photography somehow.
01-25-2007, 05:23 AM #27
Hi, I am a super new member of this forum and I happened to have read pretty much all the posts on this thread. I don't know any of you so my opinion here comes without any bias. I see merit in many of your posts, and don't think we can really dismiss any one's opinion as "wrong" until it has been objectively tried and tested. I think there are certainly a lot of photographic techniques that one can learn better starting out with film, but there are also nuances with digital photography that may take film photographers a little getting used to. I enjoy badminton and photography, and would call myself a beginner in comparison to most, so I will try to play some games and shoot some pics this weekend. Not gonna promise any results yet, but if I do have any I"ll try to share here. Peace to all~
01-25-2007, 06:38 AM #28Originally Posted by ski2010
everyone knows boiling water is hot and we don't need to check it with our fingers! do we?
just curious. why are u interested in this thread in particular?
nevertheless, I think everyone is in peace!
Last edited by red00ecstrat; 01-25-2007 at 06:41 AM.
01-25-2007, 07:11 AM #29
i like your shots!!! the close up view is just superb!!! i have tried shooting at 1/60....can only make it when they were serving. once the rally starts 1/60 is just to slow. 1/125 i think is the bare minimum... 1/250 is ideal. but when smashing, i think even 1/250 you cant freeze the hand movement.
01-25-2007, 07:26 AM #30
focal length: 200mm (guess: 1554mm in 35mm)
exposure time: 0.001s (1/1000)
01-25-2007, 07:27 AM #31
btw, moderators, any chance that our little dicussion have gone OT? can always split the topic
01-25-2007, 10:21 AM #32
Sure Thanks for the reminder
01-25-2007, 02:11 PM #33
Taneepak, do you mean that if one uses a slow shutter speed and then pan to track the target one can end up with the subject in sharp focus and the background blurred? If so I have to agree although I have doubts about any moving object being in 'sharp focus'
However, I can't imagine that this panning technique can be used in Badminton because you're not dealing with consistent movement (ie if a person is reaching forward their head is travelling at a different speed than their legs etc). I've tried to paste in a picture but it won't work! Imagine a bird flying through the sky, if you could track the bird (its a possibility given that the bird is travelling at a constant speed) the bird would only be slightly blurry but the background would be very blurry given the panning motion.
If I may, I'd like to say that we should consider whether blurred pictures have merit in themselves. A sharp picture of an athlete doesn't convey an impression of speed or power, but one that is slightly blurred might have more artistic merit and convery more of a 'feeling' of speed etc
01-25-2007, 07:30 PM #34Originally Posted by crosscourt
and i can also imagine how much usable pic one can get on an entire night shooting badminton
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