I am quite clueless on how to call these shots but they look exellent. They are not quite a drive but more of a lift. If you watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuCD-_TY51c Lin Dan does the move I am describing on 01:17 - 01:18 02:22 - 02:23 (right after chen hong's serve) 02:26 - 02:27 (the shot that won him the point) when Lin Dan approaches the net to lift/drive(don't really know what that is) that drop, he used his forehand to make this incredible shot. A forehand drive/lift to his left (He's left handed)! How is it possible that his wrist/arm bend or his raquet's angle change for him to force a forehand recieved birdie further into the direction that is his forehand? Meaning if you are right handed and you somehow magically squeezed the birdie into an impossible angle. My assumption is that he is using some sort of slicing technique, that his raquet is not hitting the birdie flat but at an angle which can somehow squeeze/deflect the birdie into that direction? How?!
It's not a slice; it's double motion. There are three basic ways to do this kind of deception: You can slice it. You can use a racket head fake. You can use double motion. If you slice it, you will need a longer hitting action: a full swing lift, with the racket angled as it strikes the shuttle. This is not so useful for a lift, because you can't play such a good netshot. When playing deceptive lifts, a short hitting action is more effective, because you can fake a netshot. Using a racket head fake involves turning the racket slightly by tightening the grip in the fingers. Depending on your finger position, grip tightening will cause the racket to rotate slightly as you hit. This gives a small change in the expected direction. This can be useful for pushes and drives from the net in doubles, just to throw off your opponent's prediction slightly. For the kind of shot that Lin Dan plays there, you need double motion. He starts by bringing the racket towards the shuttle as if to hit to his non-racket side -- the natural direction for a forehand -- but then withdraws the racket head slightly, hyperextends his wrist (pulls it back), and supinates his arm (turns it out) as much as possible. The elbow will be pulled in towards his body. The effect of all this is a momentary withdrawl of the racket -- only a small distance -- to reposition his hand for the new angle. This leaves him in a pretty awkward position to hit the shuttle, because he can barely move his arm at all towards his racket side. But he doesn't need much power for a shallow, attacking lift, so he just uses grip tightening ("finger power").
You can see a demonstration of how to do this kind of shots in Zhao Jian Hua's 3 dvds. Look out for the lady coach's demonstration. It uses wrist snap and pronation/supination, and watch that index finger on one side and the thumb on the other side.
A typical badminton stroke is something like this: body rotation -> shoulder rotation -> forearm rotation + finger action The forearm rotation and finger action are the last movements before the stroke, so they determine where and how fast the bird will travel. Adding shoulder rotation into the shot gives you three options: 1. The shoulder rotation is slow- This means that shoulder rotation is barely contributing to the stroke at all. The way to get deception here would be to suddenly and rapidly accelerate the racquet just before impact with the forearm and fingers. For example this could be faking a slow drop shot then suddenly changing it into a half smash. However, the deception here is mostly based on change of speed, not of direction so the value of this move is more limited. 2. Shoulder rotation timing is optimal - what happens here is that you time your shoulder movement with the forearm movement so that power is optimized. This is the typical case, used for most normal shots. Also, since the racquet head velocity is brought up higher in this scenario, the effectiveness of sliced shots for deception is increased. 3. Shoulder rotation speed is too fast - what happens here is that the shoulder rotation overshoots the optimal position for power because it is not in sync with the forearm rotation. However, this places the forearm rotation such that it can place the shot in the direction against which it is moving. Essentially the more obvious arm movement "masks" the more subtle hand movement. I usually refer to this as "creating a lag" between the two movements, which then leads to Gollum's term "double action" Now, the same thing can be said to occur between body rotation and shoulder rotation.
Seeing how it is demonstrated is simpler and much easier than describing it with words. The more words the higher the probability of not getting it right. There is no better tool than the Zhao Jian Hua dvds to teach you this stroke.
Are you referring to the 15 episode shown on CCTV? Would be grateful if you could indicate which episode it is in.
Haha, but we like analyzing movements this way. It's the nerdy thing to do! It's funny how at my school, we have a lot of engineering students at the club. Whenever I'm teaching them something, they always want a detailed technical description of how to do things! ... too bad they often don't have enough basic coordination and proprioception to make use of that knowledge.
It's a forehand flick shot at the net. I remember seeing Wong Choong Hann (sp?) use it against Xia Xuanze in in their WC2003 match. Yes, it's covered in one of the Zhao/Xiao Jie CCTV-5 instructional episodes; I think it's also covered in the DVD + book set that Mr taneepak recommended. I'll have to check the episode number and whether it is DVD set 1 or 2.
The forehand crosscourt variant is featured in Zhao/Xiao Jie's Badminton: Experts' Diagnosis, DVD Set 1, episode 13. The forehand down-the-line variant is featured in the IBF book + DVD set, DVD title 6, chapter 17.
Is that so special? (not meaning to sound cocky) because I can do it, and many other people can do it... slicing is an option, but take force and a long swing.. it's, like gollum said, a double motion. keys to succes: -body position for a straight push -racket ' far' ahead of you -pull back the arcket 'at the point were you normally contact the shuttle. -cock your wrist at the very last second and hit it cross. fun variation: don't lift, but drop is crosscourt...crazy netshot!
this is one of PG's fav deceptive shots.uses it to good effect against a lot of top players including LD
the above posts have explained it well. also, what you must not forget is that you'll need plenty of wrist power to do such shots. the stronger and more flexible the wrist, the more deceptive you can be ,
hi, watching pros play and learn is one of the best way to upgrade yourself in skills. actually i can do all the shots by watching they play. do the shots, make that shuttle go to that specific area of unguarded. only one thing, i cant do it.... the stamina. old already, not much energy to keep up the footwork... aikssss. keep up the good works, watch and learn.
Haha, from the pictures above you can see that Chen Hong is already screwed based on his being completely out of position. The fake shot is simply Lin Dan capitalizing on the situation, which he had probably set up 1 or more shots earlier.
