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    Quote Originally Posted by naistav View Post
    Simon failed to meet the tough target being set for him to reach SF at 2 opening SS of 2014.
    He will be booted out as the implication.
    Tough decision for PBSI.
    However, due to our probably not knowing of the complete story, I think from fairness point of view, this seems not right.
    1. Simon's achievement before long illness and injury was decent, but remarkably better than other MS.
    2. Simon's level is still slightly higher than Hayom, Tommy (looking the result of INA GPG 2013, he defeated Tommy and demolished Hayom).
    3. With the right treatment, plan, and attitude, Simon can still make a comeback like SDK did after injury. Remember, SDK didn't come back instantly, took him some time as well.
    4. If age is the consideration, then PBSI must consider potential level of our young MS like Wisnu, Riyanto was far from Simon's potential (and even achievements) when Simon was at their age. Even when compared to Hayom and Tommy, young Simon did and achieved better.
    5. With current trend, I doubt Wisnu, Riyanto, to reach Simon's level.
    6. Meanwhile, other younger MS like Ihsan, Jo Christ will be struggling to reach what Simon achieved at age of 19.
    7. Simon is still 'only' 28 (born July 29, 1985). Not that old.

    I rather choose to boot out Wisnu (limited potential) and Riyanto (no progress albeit has talent), so PBSI can focus on youngster like Jo Christ, Ihsan, and maintain INA's expectation from seniors (Sony, Simon, Tommy, Hayom) for Sudirman cup, Thomas cup and to keep INA at relatively competitive level for other country (KOR, MAS, THA, IND, DEN, TPE), and challenge CHN.

    However, we again didn't know the complete story, which many questions remained unanswered:
    1. Why Simon recovery is really-really slow.
    a. Is it due to Simon's attitude that not trying hard enough?
    He was at illness and recovered too long.
    2. Simon was hampered by illness several times, is it normal? I doubt it. ANy food discipline issue?
    3. Simon was injury prone as well. How come?
    4. Simon was known as relatively weak mentality. If you noticed, whenever games stretched him to rubber, he was likely to lose. Especially when he won first set, lose the second.
    5. etc, etc which mostly relate to Simon's health, fitness which is not at top standard for an athlete that expected to be world top level.

    But, it is also PBSI failure to solve that kinda classic INA problems. Simply giving ultimatum which is mission impossible for Simon and then boot him out is seemed not a good decision short term and long term.
    Anyway, good luck for Simon, I always like his game when he is in form. So, at age of 28 now, Simon still has a chance to challenge top world MS if he manage his pro career wisely.
    Good luck for PBSI as well.
    If PBSI is that strict, then Simon should turn professional and select the tournaments he wants to play.
    He is good when he is in form and he has the titles to show and it would be a pity to walk out of badminton at such a young age.
    Maybe Taufik Hidayat could be approached to sponsor him and that would be good for his academy if SS wins under his sponsorship.

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    Not in pelatnas means : can choose which tournament to play, how many tournament to play, can play in foreign leagues.

    That's why some prefer that way, more freedom.

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    Default Simon Santoso resigns from the national team!

    Simon Santoso Mengundurkan Diri dari Pelatnas Cipayung

    1/23/2014
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    (Jakarta, 23/1/2014)

    Pebulutangkis tunggal putra Simon Santoso memutuskan untuk mundur dari Pelatnas Cipayung, terhitung tanggal 17 Januari 2014. Setelah satu dekade lebih menjadi bagian tim nasional, Simon mengajukan surat pengunduran diri kepada PBSI setelah menyelesaikan tugas di dua turnamen di awal tahun yaitu Korea Open Super Series dan Malaysia Open Super Series Premier 2014.

    Prestasi Simon sempat menurun setelah divonis menderita penyakit gondongan pada akhir tahun 2012. Ia pun harus absen di sejumlah turnamen. Akibatnya peringkatnya menurun drastis dan terlempar dari jajaran 100 besar dunia.

    Simon mencoba bangkit dan kembali mengayunkan raket. Sayang, cedera pinggang datang menghantuinya dan membuat Simon batal berlaga sekaligus mempertahankan gelar di ajang Djarum Indonesia Open Super Series Premier 2013.

    Di awal tahun 2014, Kabid Binpres Rexy Mainaky mengatakan bahwa performa Simon akan dipantau di dua turnamen yaitu Korea Open Super Series dan Malaysia Open Super Series Premier 2014. Simon diberi target untuk mencapai babak semifinal.

    Namun Simon belum berhasil memenuhi misi tersebut. Ia pun memutuskan untuk mundur dan berlatih di luar pelatnas.

    "Walaupun Simon sudah tidak bergabung dengan pelatnas, namun Simon masih akan melanjutkan karirnya di dunia bulutangkis. Untuk itu, PBSI membuka pintu selebar-lebarnya jika Simon ingin berlatih bersama dan membutuhkan sparring di Cipayung," kata Achmad Budiharto, Wakil Sekretaris Jenderal PP PBSI.

    "Karena Pelatnas adalah salah satu bagian dari PBSI, demikian juga dengan semua klub-klub yang berada di seluruh Indonesia. Oleh karena itu, ketika seseorang pemain sudah tidak berada di pelatnas lagi, bukan berarti pemain tersebut tidak bisa memberikan kontribusi untuk PBSI karena tugas dari pelatnas dan seluruh klub di seluruh Indonesia yang merupakan keluarga besar PP PBSI yang saling bekerja sama untuk memajukan perbulutangkisan di Indonesia," imbuhnya.

    Bergabung dengan Pelatnas Cipayung pada tahun 2002, Simon sempat menjadi salah satu pemain tunggal putra terbaik negeri ini. Simon pernah menduduki peringkat tiga dunia, terbaik dalam karirnya.

    Pemain kelahiran Tegal, 29 Juli 1985 ini menyumbangkan medali emas cabang olahraga bulutangkis tunggal putra bagi kontingen Merah-Putih di ajang SEA Games 2011 di Indonesia serta SEA Games 2009 di Laos.

    Simon juga naik podium juara di ajang Denmark Open Super Series 2009, Djarum Indonesia Open Super Series Premier 2012, Yonex-Sunrise Indonesia Open Grand Prix Gold 2013 serta Prim-A Kejurnas PBSI 2013.

    "Kami mengucapkan terima kasih yang sebesar-besarnya kepada Simon yang selama ini telah berjasa mengharumkan nama Indonesia di panggung bulutangkis dunia. Semoga prestasi Simon dapat menjadi tauladan bagi pemain lainnya. Kami berharap Simon terus berprestasi dan memberikan bimbingan bagi para junior-juniornya," tutur Gita Wirjawan, Ketua Umum PP PBSI. (*)


    Source: http://badmintonindonesia.org/app/in...ail.aspx?/2489

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    ...and in English???

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    Interview of Simon with Bolanews.com relating his resignation from PBSI squad : http://www.bolanews.com/read/raket/b...an-Tembak.html

    One thing i took a note was said that there is no communication between simon and PBSI management all a long but only to coach?
    Is this kind of communication that usually/standard practiced in PBSI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jks_niceguy View Post
    Interview of Simon with Bolanews.com relating his resignation from PBSI squad : http://www.bolanews.com/read/raket/b...an-Tembak.html

    One thing i took a note was said that there is no communication between simon and PBSI management all a long but only to coach?
    Is this kind of communication that usually/standard practiced in PBSI?
    Ya Sudah. Saying sekali. Simon kamu orgnya kalem pendiem. Kesempatan, karir itu kamu harus kontrol 100%. Ya seharusnya kamu dialog dgn PBSI. Kalau diem2 ya PBSI pun tidak membantu.

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    success for you koh simon

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    I think it's good for Simon Santoso to change direction as he was not appreciated.
    In my view, SS has still a few good years of badminton left and if he does well he can still garner big bucks.
    Good luck to you, SS.

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    I think so far his performance at the Malaysia GPG is quite impressive. Hopefully he can prove himself by winning this tournament so PBSI would call him to join the Thomas Cup team. I'm quite sure the team will benefit by having him as MS-3.

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    I salute Rexy for "forcing" Simon to leave pelatnas. Simon is getting better as professional player. Better than the last time he was in pelatnas.

    And also salute Rexy for agreeing to nominate Simon to Thomas Cup squad. That means PBSI is doing their best for Thomas Cup.

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    I'm not so sure whether SS is better than before.

    His opponents in the current Malaysia Open are not of the highest quality that one usually finds in Super Series tournaments. With his background, experience and current form SS should advance to the finals and win the title.

    Unfortunately for INA's MS, apart from TS, the others are not performing to expectation. Thus SS may have to be recalled for the TC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    I'm not so sure whether SS is better than before.

    His opponents in the current Malaysia Open are not of the highest quality that one usually finds in Super Series tournaments. With his background, experience and current form SS should advance to the finals and win the title.

    Unfortunately for INA's MS, apart from TS, the others are not performing to expectation. Thus SS may have to be recalled for the TC.
    I think Simon is still not at his best at the moment but he performed very bad in 2013 and in early 2014 while he was still in pelatnas. Now he is playing better than the past 1 year.

    As for Thomas Cup, I don't think Simon should play if the junior can already achieve better result than him. However, the result so far shows that they are not and if PBSI did not nominate him, then there is something not right.

    Anyway, INA Thomas cup squad is not finalized and Simon is 1 of probably 8 MS considered for the 4 MS spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sen View Post
    I think Simon is still not at his best at the moment but he performed very bad in 2013 and in early 2014 while he was still in pelatnas. Now he is playing better than the past 1 year.

    As for Thomas Cup, I don't think Simon should play if the junior can already achieve better result than him. However, the result so far shows that they are not and if PBSI did not nominate him, then there is something not right.

    Anyway, INA Thomas cup squad is not finalized and Simon is 1 of probably 8 MS considered for the 4 MS spot.
    Besides Tommy and maybe Hayom, who could possibly beat Simon right now in INA MS list? Has Sonny recover enough to perform yet?

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    Simon still looked sluggish at times, esp against the fit Sourabh Varma. If not for his vast experience, he would have lost the match in MAS GPG Final. Varma was easily ahead in terms of attacks and defense.....only in the very late stage did Simon's attacks bore pts for him. Earlier on, they were all repelled by Varma.

    Nevertheless, a morale boosting victory for Simon (and he needs it badly especially after turning independent). In terms of titles, he's also among one of the few INA MS players who has won at least one title each year (except for 2011):
    2008 - Chinese Taipei Open GPG
    2009 - Denmark SS
    2010 - Chinese Taipei Open GPG
    2012 - Indonesia SSP (his biggest title so far)
    2013 - Indonesia GPG
    2014 - Malaysia GPG

    Admittedly, he will still have a chance of winning titles at GP/GPG level tourneys. But at SS, I am a bit skeptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Simon still looked sluggish at times, esp against the fit Sourabh Varma. If not for his vast experience, he would have lost the match in MAS GPG Final. Varma was easily ahead in terms of attacks and defense.....only in the very late stage did Simon's attacks bore pts for him. Earlier on, they were all repelled by Varma.

    Nevertheless, a morale boosting victory for Simon (and he needs it badly especially after turning independent). In terms of titles, he's also among one of the few INA MS players who has won at least one title each year (except for 2011):
    2008 - Chinese Taipei Open GPG
    2009 - Denmark SS
    2010 - Chinese Taipei Open GPG
    2012 - Indonesia SSP (his biggest title so far)
    2013 - Indonesia GPG
    2014 - Malaysia GPG

    Admittedly, he will still have a chance of winning titles at GP/GPG level tourneys. But at SS, I am a bit skeptical.
    Congratulations, Simon Santoso, on your first win as an independent player.
    Hopefully, this will be the start of more titles for you.


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    Welcome back SS, beating LCW in the final of the singapore open 21-15, 21-10

    I'm very glad that I was able to witness such a performance!

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