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03-22-2007, 08:22 AM #1
can you refuse a let? (fixtures but no umpires)
i was wondering if you can refuse a let in a game where there are no umpires nor line judges (school VS school - Private Schools Association sport to be exact).
lets say there is this short kid called Robin, his shot landed in the back corner (singles court). his opponent called it out and Robin goes "oohhh? [suprised/disgusted/annoying look] thats in !!!!?!!!!" and his opponent goes "no, thats out" and he goes "what?! replay!" and his opponent is reluctant to replay it. so does his opponent have any right to refuse a let or a replay?
note that Robin might just be an immature player who needs to cheat to win and also does that a couple of times (including in the following doubles game).
so what can opponents of Robin avoid having to replay?
yes some things are being mentally strong and continuosly refuse the let, being completely happy-go-lucky and agree to the let, being intimidated by Robin's disgusting look and behaviour and agreeing to the let, call an official coach who is watching a different game at the moment, going to Robin's side and warning him if he ever tries that trick again he nose would be broken.
any suggestions would be most appreciated.
p.s. the name Robin in this post and any other similarities with real life people and situations is unintended.
well, actually it is inteded. im not completely sure if that kid's name is Robin or not, but i know i hate people like that who pretend to look "disgusted" and ask for a replay everytime they played a stupid bad shot.
03-22-2007, 08:40 AM #2
Originally Posted by llpjlau
03-22-2007, 09:02 AM #3
And, no, you don't have to allow a let just because some cheat asks for one. You only give a let if you are in doubt as to the call or when the rules insist on one (e.g. shuttle caught on receiver's side of the net in a rally).
03-22-2007, 09:06 AM #4
Shouldn't it be the decision of the person receiving? And hopefully the honour system is intact?? If the receiver honestly thinks its out then its out.
03-22-2007, 10:12 AM #5
say "no, it was in" Keep cool, stand ready to serve (in the way were you get the point)
no discussion, no debates, just say it like it is and stand ready. if he really is cheating (with 'really' I mean he does it on purpose) he'll either give in, or explode...
the latter being to your advantages, now it's time to start messing about
"OKay, we'll do a replay." the first shot he hits just let it drop. (unless it lands dead center) (best if it's his serve to the backline but that's always the case) say "out" and stand ready to serve....
now Robin should be very confused, or fuming...both are good enough. He'll probably refuse, protest, scream, shout, whatever. Act like you don't understand the fuss, "what? it was out..."
My guess is there're no official rules for this, but who knows...
eitherway. don't give in right away, and if you do give in, give him a hard time with every call he makes
EDIT: forgot to mention my personal tip. when you hit a smash, or a shot to the line, as soon as the shuttle touches the floor (in, offcourse) make a shout "OOOOiiii" and raise a fist. For maximum effect have a crowd joining in. (note, only do it when the shot is in, we're not cheater like robin )
Only the bluntest prick would dare to cheat you on that great shot...
Last edited by jerby; 03-22-2007 at 10:16 AM.
03-22-2007, 10:47 AM #6
yup agreed, a let should only be played if both sides agree to it.
and yeah, the guy on the other side of the court shouldn't be questioning if a shot landed out on the back court, unless it was blatantly obvious that it was in.
if the situation persists, you can always ask a couple of people to sit on opposite ends of the back court and be linesmen for particularly difficult opponents.
03-22-2007, 11:00 AM #7
The way we play is the player closest has the final say so in a game of singles that’s the receiver. Doubles a consensus normally holds sway.
03-23-2007, 02:02 AM #8
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