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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsysmurf View Post
    i agree with what you say about environment conditions. but u also have to take into account the player. some likes it fast and some likes it slow. people who like it fast might say certain brand is too slow and vice versa. in my area, when i test shuttle the way i described, the as-40 never passes the test. it actually flies past between the doubles and single's long serve line (base). i didn't have that problem with 300B. that said, i used as-40 a lot more recently than 300B. as a tester, the time difference is enough to say that batches have been different, maybe even the quality and make of the shuttle. my strength has also grown considerably (i play like 5 days a week now compared to like 2, maybe 3 times a week when i tested the 300b). that guide i made is just a guide in terms of my preference and from when i was actually testing it. also the other thing is i dunno what MASTER DINK said. his experience could be different from mine. his skill level is higher than mine to so maybe he might have a better guide than mine, or maybe he has a different way to judge the shuttles he reviews (i dunno where that review is either. a link would be nice cuz i wanna see his reviews like the grip review and the string review). i tried to keep my guide unbiased, but it might not be? so that's my final say on it take it as a guide but in the end, try it out for you own reference because you play differently from me. it is almost like recommending a string or a racket. you have to try it out to know what fits you best.
    You can see here the tests done by Dink: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...ad.php?t=47979

    The personal preference its important, but I was looking for a comparison standard independently from the personal preferences. I will test the Yang Yang 300B in 4 days. At that time I will verify its characteristics.

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    OH THAT LINK... hahaha... i remember reading that long time ago now. my list is slightly different from him. in terms of 300b, i do not think itz on par with as-50 because of the durability and the shuttle feel. i feel that the as-50 cork is harder and also the overall shuttle is more durable. what i find good about yang yang 300b was that 300b was considerably cheaper and for the price, it was a good shuttle. the flight path is consistent (unless feather falls off like most/all shuttles) and when i used it, i can go from one shuttle to the next in the tube and there'd be no inconsistency from one shuttle to the next unlike some other brand of shuttles. also, most of the rating i created was for price to shuttle quality/durability ratio (me poor) i rated RSL tourney #1 the best only because i can get it for $15 flat. i used to rate hi-qua chester pretty high too cuz i could get it for $17. now itz just way too expensive. as-40 is about $23-24 after tax. to me as-40 (i can only get at one speed) flies fast. they are durable but comparing $15 to $24, i'd rather go with RSL cuz it almost last as long as the as-40. if u want quality, go with as-50. i have no doubt they are one of the best shuttles in terms of quality and durability u can find here in US (think japan came out with a higher grade of Yonex shuttle than the AS-50, just unaffordable).

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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsysmurf View Post
    OH THAT LINK... hahaha... i remember reading that long time ago now. my list is slightly different from him. in terms of 300b, i do not think itz on par with as-50 because of the durability and the shuttle feel. i feel that the as-50 cork is harder and also the overall shuttle is more durable. what i find good about yang yang 300b was that 300b was considerably cheaper and for the price, it was a good shuttle. the flight path is consistent (unless feather falls off like most/all shuttles) and when i used it, i can go from one shuttle to the next in the tube and there'd be no inconsistency from one shuttle to the next unlike some other brand of shuttles. also, most of the rating i created was for price to shuttle quality/durability ratio (me poor) i rated RSL tourney #1 the best only because i can get it for $15 flat. i used to rate hi-qua chester pretty high too cuz i could get it for $17. now itz just way too expensive. as-40 is about $23-24 after tax. to me as-40 (i can only get at one speed) flies fast. they are durable but comparing $15 to $24, i'd rather go with RSL cuz it almost last as long as the as-40. if u want quality, go with as-50. i have no doubt they are one of the best shuttles in terms of quality and durability u can find here in US (think japan came out with a higher grade of Yonex shuttle than the AS-50, just unaffordable).
    Here in Portugal the shuttlecocks adopted by the federation are the AS-40, speed 3. In my club we have play with this shuttlecocks, but they break easly. We already tried Trump T-101, and Yehlex Championship grade and Premium. Trump even before feathers break, start to loose their round shape and flatten. The Yehlex have durable feathers but the flight its not stable and the cork its very soft and after a while is all marked by the string.

    We are looking for a shuttlecock like AS-40, with the same speed, and flight stability, but more durable and cheaper. We hope that Yang Yang have this characteristics.

    Yonex have a higher grade then AS-50. Its the Yonex Tournment.

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    my dad's going to jakarta this weekend. Can someone pls tell me where I can have him buy GadjahMada greenband in jakarta? any sports goods store? I was thinking of getting more than a dozen hopefully .... since i hear theyre good ... these shuttles arent available in manila
    any info would be much appreaciated. Thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttoyzzz View Post
    my dad's going to jakarta this weekend. Can someone pls tell me where I can have him buy GadjahMada greenband in jakarta? any sports goods store? I was thinking of getting more than a dozen hopefully .... since i hear theyre good ... these shuttles arent available in manila
    any info would be much appreaciated. Thanks!!!
    lots of places carrying this shuttle. Depending where your father is going to stay.
    In my view, this type is very stable/consistent, but very easy to broke normally I need 6pcs for 1x30 game. Before I played with this shuttle but now I played with Kartika. The speed is the same with GM green. Durability is far away better. 1x30 using 3-4pcs.

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    Thanks for the fast response h4n5ip!
    really!? i even heard someone say GM greenband is comparable
    to chaopai red.
    Does Kartika have diff variants? red, green, black,etc? which one do you use and how much is it usually for a tube? thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tttoyzzz View Post
    Thanks for the fast response h4n5ip!
    really!? i even heard someone say GM greenband is comparable
    to chaopai red.
    Does Kartika have diff variants? red, green, black,etc? which one do you use and how much is it usually for a tube? thanks!
    As I told you before, it is a good bird, but nowadays it's very easy to broke.
    Never tried chaopai red before.

    Nope, kartika has only one variant so far as I known. You won't find it in the market. I buy straight from the maker.
    The price for GM green is $3.8 (6 pcs)
    The price for Kartika is $6 (12 pcs)
    My feeling, kartika is quite similar to Protech I forget the variant. but I remember the price for the protech $18.

    Very worth it to try. If you want to try you could ask your father to take half dozen Gm and Half dozen kartika. I can organize for you, depending where your father stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Player View Post
    I have garuda crystal. it's crap. the feather is ugly + dirty and it doesn't fly properly. just sorta float. it's the rounded feather one. my aunt bought it for me when my parents was in Jakarta.

    berapa harganya garuda yg sungguhan? punya gw ada harganya Rp 35000 terus ada sicker di deketnya Rp 4000 yg bikin PT torasakti indotama.
    Well, I was doing some surfing, and found this forum ~.~ Let me explain to you about this one =)

    My Grandfather is the owner of Garuda Shuttlecock Industry, the company is divided by 2 now, Garuda Budiono Putra, and Garuda Torasakti Indotama. My father is on Garuda Torasakti Indotama.

    The products itself divided by many variation, if you're a pro, playing with Garuda Crystal, sure it will be like playing with a crap. Try Garuda International if you are looking for our higest quality product. But I am guarantee only on Torasakti Indotama's product only, bcoz Budiono Putra is not belong to our family again. It has different owner.

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    ^
    Last time i use Garuda is not good experience, i try both Tora and Budiono and yes International also. Sorry but i feel your quality is not as good as Garuda i know 18 years ago, still have a good fly but feather loosing durability too fast and sometimes broken when smashing.
    Now using Cobra Gold for acceptable performance with reasonable price and if my friend want to use somethig for more serious game we use RSL no 1 Tourney but its so pricey.
    I keep wondering what happen to the brand that very famous in my teenage time....Gajahmada and Garuda
    Improve your quality again bro i really missing the old times, i wish all best for you and your company

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    Well, thanx for the critic i will pass this information to the owners.

    Sure our quality is not as good as 18 years ago maybe imo because even the materials' the same, our workers is not the same fyi our products are still using manual way. Budiono is the one who win the old factory but he is already pass away, his children.. i don't know ^^". Our factory is new, the only one left from this shuttlecock production is just my father, he is the one who can make this products like grandpa.

    Lately, we're trying to use some new modern machine for production, hope this way can make a better products than before =)

    Well gajahmada is our family too. I think they still have some great products like the old times, are they? O.o
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    nope, Gajahmada easily broken too and pricey Rp 41000 (in my court ) for half dozen is too expensive with durability like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applemoment View Post
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    Well gajahmada is our family too. I think they still have some great products like the old times, are they? O.o
    ..wow, never knew Gadjah Mada brand is part of your family's shuttlecock business. And i've used that brand before.
    Another question, is it true there are several types of Gadjah Mada shuttlecock model? I heard the "best" ones are sold 6 pieces in a tube, instead of 12 pieces in a tube?? And the color is green.

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    Mavis 300/350
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    It would be an honor if someone would let me try for 1 game a feather birdie
    Where I live, most retail sport stores sell only plastic and come at $15/tube and no feather

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..wow, never knew Gadjah Mada brand is part of your family's shuttlecock business. And i've used that brand before.
    Another question, is it true there are several types of Gadjah Mada shuttlecock model? I heard the "best" ones are sold 6 pieces in a tube, instead of 12 pieces in a tube?? And the color is green.
    Gajahmada is belong to my grandpa's sister =) and yeah there are several types of them but i think their best product is gajahmada international with red tube in 6 pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applemoment View Post
    Gajahmada is belong to my grandpa's sister =) and yeah there are several types of them but i think their best product is gajahmada international with red tube in 6 pieces.
    Sorry but I really dissapointed with Gajahmada, i bought 2 regular one and 2 tubes special.

    I brought it to vietnam to show that indonesia made such excelent shuttle.

    But infact i was embarrased, the shuttle crumbled after few strokes, it need 3-4 shuttle for 1 set. then all my club mate bit reluctant when I took my GM shuttle as every player has to contribute.
    Now I return to Haiyen, with half price and much better quality

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    ^
    Once upon a time Gajahmada was the best shuttlecock in Indonesia
    I have same experience like you, even the red tube is not as good as i remember Hopefully bro applemoment pass our message to the owner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applemoment View Post
    Gajahmada is belong to my grandpa's sister =) and yeah there are several types of them but i think their best product is gajahmada international with red tube in 6 pieces.
    no way man ........
    I've tried before, and similar to SamuderaIndia, it was embarrasing moment to me when I introduced it to my group ....

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