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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    Yes, IMHO, their combination had reached it's peak during OG and LCW has wasted 1 1/2 years. No disrespect to MS, he should let LCW go and look for another "master' to teach him something new. LCW doesn't have much time left. He should seriously consider this move if he fails to land the AE.
    teach something new and just what would that be? since ms doesn't know he is not teaching lcw something new and you knew it and stated it, might as well tell us the something new and finally we, the audience would definitely be happy!

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    Question let's switch the coaches and players around the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    LCW + Misbun = FAILURES, as the record shown.
    LCW should ditch him soonest if he wants to win a major before his retirement.
    part 1.
    let us assume you, the guru are correct, that lcw+ms=failure so lcw go china trained under the thing, would that be okay?

    then cj+his coach on the other hand is also a failure, so should we ditch his coach?

    after 2 months came the a.e. and as we all know there would be only 1 champion and whoever that runner-up+his coach definitely would also be a failure so in this case, supposedly these champion & runner-up is taught by the same coach, who would you ditch this time?

    definitely not the player as it has to be the coach...

    part 2 (if you reply i will post it)

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    Arrow #189

    Quote Originally Posted by SibugiChai View Post
    Its not a failure... but I think this combination has reach its peak, lcw might need to change coach to diversify his tactics..
    if you think lcw needs to change coach, read post #189

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    teach something new and just what would that be? since ms doesn't know he is not teaching lcw something new and you knew it and stated it, might as well tell us the something new and finally we, the audience would definitely be happy!
    I am not being rude or evasive of your question but I am no badminton coach and didn't say that I know what to teach LCW to be a better player. I am saying there could be another coach who may help him to improve further. I am just a badminton fan and I gave my opinions based on results achieved by the player/s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemuda View Post
    This AE is actually crucial for LCW. Like it or not, its a must win actually.
    LCW has at best 3 AEs to try to win. This AE10, with LD 'resting' and coming of a lacklustre EAG09 while LCW fresh from 2 straight SS wins makes a very interesting AE. If Dato can maintain his form, he has a good chance to take it...but AE is also home and best hunting ground to LD...but before anyone start counting the chicks there are other players who could spoil this rendevous so let's see the draw

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    I am not being rude or evasive of your question but I am no badminton coach and didn't say that I know what to teach LCW to be a better player. I am saying there could be another coach who may help him to improve further. I am just a badminton fan and I gave my opinions based on results achieved by the player/s.
    my apology, maybe i should have rephrase that before i posted!

    at first i though you may have some clue what's the next ingredient(s) needed to be in lcw's soup so that it's completely delicious! so that's why i ask you! sorry for that misunderstanding!

    but sometime we just have to consider other factors and can't based on current results achieved to give our comment (that's only my opinion)!

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    Default Is that Yap Kim Hock going to the AE as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie View Post
    LCW has at best 3 AEs to try to win. This AE10, with LD 'resting' and coming of a lacklustre EAG09 while LCW fresh from 2 straight SS wins makes a very interesting AE. If Dato can maintain his form, he has a good chance to take it...but AE is also home and best hunting ground to LD...but before anyone start counting the chicks there are other players who could spoil this rendevous so let's see the draw
    I am kinda worried bout Datuk actually. Is YKH gonna be there as well? Dont want to see a repeat of WC 2007 at this year's AE.

    If YKH is going, I hope he is sitting about at least 200 feet away when LCW is playing. And I hope YKH is wearing a hat as well.

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    Lee Chong Wei has no other good chance to win the AE or WC already. He has the highest chance last year and this year, but failed to win both last year. Expectations are high for him to do it this year. I have a feeling he might pull the AE off this time, but still, if he doesn't, Lee Chong Wei is still a hero of Malaysia, although he will never be compared to as a great.

    Let's go, Chong Wei + Misbun! This is your greatest chance to make things work out!

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    Found something to substantiate my claim that LCW needs a new coach to achieve his goal. The major points are relevant to Datuk.

    http://themalaysianinsider.com/index...ep-says-becker

    Courtesy of MalaysianInsider.

    Murray needs new help to take the final step, says Becker LONDON, Feb 1 — Andy Murray needs to tap into the knowledge of some of the “icons of the game” if he is to move from grand slam contender to champion, according to six-time major winner Boris Becker. Murray (picture) was in tears after yesterday’s 6-3 6-4 7-6 defeat by Roger Federer in the Australian Open final, his second grand slam final defeat after he was swept aside by Federer in the 2008 US Open.
    Yesterday’s loss was closer, but not much, as only in the third set did Murray begin to show the aggression and risk-taking necessary to disturb Federer’s cruise to his 16th grand slam.
    Becker said that Murray had played the best major tournament of his career in Melbourne but that it had also revealed that he needs to work on his aggression.
    “How assertive he was in the final was always going to be crucial. At the very start of the match he went head to head with Roger, but he then reverted to his usual defensive game, and allowed Roger to play such great tennis,” Becker wrote in the Daily Telegraph.
    “Even when he had set points, in the third set, he could not take the big step. He tried to attack, but a mid-court forehand let him down. It is not a shot he would usually select, and on the big points, tennis players revert to instinct.
    “It was a revealing moment, and one which showed that Andy now needs to improve technically, to ingrain the killer shot so deep inside him that it becomes instinctive to play it at the right moment, like Roger. That is the next stage in his progression.
    “I was looking at Andy’s box during the match and there was no one up there who knows what it is like to be out in a grand slam final. Don’t get me wrong, ‘Team Murray’ are first rate — they have made Andy the third best player on the planet — but you cannot learn the skills you need out on the centre court from a book, or from hearsay.
    “You need to talk to people like John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, someone Andy would listen to and respect. For Murray, it is now about playing the right shot at the right time, not running or going to the gym.”
    Becker, who won Wimbledon three times, the Australian Open twice and the US Open once, ruled himself out of the job but said Murray needed someone who has achieved the ultimate in the game to be alongside him in the slams to “talk about the five or so make-or-break shots in a match, and how best to play them.”
    “Andy will be among the top men’s players over the next five years, but if he wants to be above them, not amid them, he needs to have someone in his corner who knows what it is like to win a grand slam, to climb the Mount Everest of tennis,” Becker said.
    “The air is thin up there, and Andy needs to surround himself with people who have been to the summit, who can describe to him how they got there, and how he can as well.” — Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    Found something to substantiate my claim that LCW needs a new coach to achieve his goal. The major points are relevant to Datuk.

    http://themalaysianinsider.com/index...ep-says-becker

    Courtesy of MalaysianInsider.

    Murray needs new help to take the final step, says Becker LONDON, Feb 1 — Andy Murray needs to tap into the knowledge of some of the “icons of the game” if he is to move from grand slam contender to champion, according to six-time major winner Boris Becker. Murray (picture) was in tears after yesterday’s 6-3 6-4 7-6 defeat by Roger Federer in the Australian Open final, his second grand slam final defeat after he was swept aside by Federer in the 2008 US Open.
    Yesterday’s loss was closer, but not much, as only in the third set did Murray begin to show the aggression and risk-taking necessary to disturb Federer’s cruise to his 16th grand slam.
    Becker said that Murray had played the best major tournament of his career in Melbourne but that it had also revealed that he needs to work on his aggression.
    “How assertive he was in the final was always going to be crucial. At the very start of the match he went head to head with Roger, but he then reverted to his usual defensive game, and allowed Roger to play such great tennis,” Becker wrote in the Daily Telegraph.
    “Even when he had set points, in the third set, he could not take the big step. He tried to attack, but a mid-court forehand let him down. It is not a shot he would usually select, and on the big points, tennis players revert to instinct.
    “It was a revealing moment, and one which showed that Andy now needs to improve technically, to ingrain the killer shot so deep inside him that it becomes instinctive to play it at the right moment, like Roger. That is the next stage in his progression.
    “I was looking at Andy’s box during the match and there was no one up there who knows what it is like to be out in a grand slam final. Don’t get me wrong, ‘Team Murray’ are first rate — they have made Andy the third best player on the planet — but you cannot learn the skills you need out on the centre court from a book, or from hearsay.
    “You need to talk to people like John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, someone Andy would listen to and respect. For Murray, it is now about playing the right shot at the right time, not running or going to the gym.”
    Becker, who won Wimbledon three times, the Australian Open twice and the US Open once, ruled himself out of the job but said Murray needed someone who has achieved the ultimate in the game to be alongside him in the slams to “talk about the five or so make-or-break shots in a match, and how best to play them.”
    “Andy will be among the top men’s players over the next five years, but if he wants to be above them, not amid them, he needs to have someone in his corner who knows what it is like to win a grand slam, to climb the Mount Everest of tennis,” Becker said.
    “The air is thin up there, and Andy needs to surround himself with people who have been to the summit, who can describe to him how they got there, and how he can as well.” — Reuters

    the comment made by boris becker, is absolutely logic as young andy still has 5 years ahead to compete for the major! does lcw have?

    boris mentioned andy, basically in layman's term, do not know how to win - that very crucial moment he just go cuckoo! so he was suggesting andy needs someone, a former major winner to be by his side and guide him to win!

    what andy needs here is motivation from an ex-champion whom hopefully he can get along with beside providing him some past winning experience.

    also, and you have mixed it up here, becker said andy needs help, he didn't say "ditch the coach"!

    so my friend, the above i am sorry can't substantiate your claim for lcw to change a new coach. i don't blame you because you are not a coach as you have said but just a badminton player...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    the comment made by boris becker, is absolutely logic as young andy still has 5 years ahead to compete for the major! does lcw have?

    boris mentioned andy, basically in layman's term, do not know how to win - that very crucial moment he just go cuckoo! so he was suggesting andy needs someone, a former major winner to be by his side and guide him to win!

    what andy needs here is motivation from an ex-champion whom hopefully he can get along with beside providing him some past winning experience.

    also, and you have mixed it up here, becker said andy needs help, he didn't say "ditch the coach"!

    so my friend, the above i am sorry can't substantiate your claim for lcw to change a new coach. i don't blame you because you are not a coach as you have said but just a badminton player...
    Thanks for your input. Are you a coach?

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    Default ^^Have you checked his profile??..^^

    ..see Occupation (but sure spends quite a bit of time in this forum) and his website..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..see Occupation (but sure spends quite a bit of time in this forum) and his website..
    Thanks. Just did that and saw the webpage but haven't really read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    Thanks for your input. Are you a coach?
    yes i am a coach, level 2 and i am still learning from you guys out there, some of you (not all!) do know more than some coaches know and they could become good coaches in the sense they are good in analyse game, players and ....


    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..see Occupation (but sure spends quite a bit of time in this forum) and his website..
    i only spend my time in a few forums and now i am browsing the next forum before i participate. as for my website right now, i only update once in a while!
    now i am gonna peek at your occupation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    ok, let's suppose i misunderstood you! what would be the style of play that would paid off?
    A better question would be, how did this turn into a conversation of style. Let me just repeat my statement again. I said I could not see how the extra of three week training suddenly made LCW better which resulted in his first back to back title.

    Example: LD took 3 solid month to prepare for OG08. By then he move even faster then LCW and smash so hard it overwhelm LCW's defense. LCW was caught totally by surprise because he himself have already up his game by a level for the OG preparation.

    However I still think LCW was not able to bring his best out in OG08 final. His semi final with LHI already shown that he was already succumbing to pressure, hence the pawning by LD in the final.

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    Question hope this clarifies our discussion!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Evil View Post
    A better question would be, how did this turn into a conversation of style. Let me just repeat my statement again. I said I could not see how the extra of three week training suddenly made LCW better which resulted in his first back to back title.

    Example: LD took 3 solid month to prepare for OG08. By then he move even faster then LCW and smash so hard it overwhelm LCW's defense. LCW was caught totally by surprise because he himself have already up his game by a level for the OG preparation.

    However I still think LCW was not able to bring his best out in OG08 final. His semi final with LHI already shown that he was already succumbing to pressure, hence the pawning by LD in the final.
    obviously, there was no tough opponent for him in k.o.10 or in m.o.10 so that's why you could not see the extra of 3 weeks training made lcw any better.

    but you know/saw him beating all his opponent in straight sets (accept cj in 3 sets m.o.10), winning back to back title. there is improvement already and you may not noticed it whereas others do - he was faster, making less mistakes and knocking his opponent off faster!

    as for og08 it was totally different - ld, well trained and played superb well and lcw at that time was totally out - he just couldn't keep the pace of ld that's why he lost in straight sets!

    you may say what you like as i have already heard some say wrong strategy giving ld all the chances to penetrate him...., ld was taking some kind of booster that's why he was so fast but has to rest a couple of months after the winning...all sorts of nonsense..just because lcw lost!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    obviously, there was no tough opponent for him in k.o.10 or in m.o.10 so that's why you could not see the extra of 3 weeks training made lcw any better.

    but you know/saw him beating all his opponent in straight sets (accept cj in 3 sets m.o.10), winning back to back title. there is improvement already and you may not noticed it whereas others do - he was faster, making less mistakes and knocking his opponent off faster!

    as for og08 it was totally different - ld, well trained and played superb well and lcw at that time was totally out - he just couldn't keep the pace of ld that's why he lost in straight sets!

    you may say what you like as i have already heard some say wrong strategy giving ld all the chances to penetrate him...., ld was taking some kind of booster that's why he was so fast but has to rest a couple of months after the winning...all sorts of nonsense..just because lcw lost!
    First of all, the turtle (pengyu....sorry cheap joke) also took him to 3 close games. Second, as I have wrote before he could have also won back to back title last year but unfortunately, his timing was a little off in the KO final and made too much mistake.

    You guys notice he was faster? Actually I though he was a little slower especially in the quarter against chen jin which is why manny of his smash defence end up hitting the net.

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