Rexy's vision......the ugly hidden part behind the glory......

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  1. alfa-2

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    this is not another thread about kkk/tbh.

    It is cruel but true to say that they achieve success and glory for MAS at the expense of their ex partner. Rexy took the cream essence out from both pairs to create an excellent one while the left over becomes another pair.

    It is good for MAS team n KKK/TBH....but poor hth/ccm........had to suffer.

    just look at ccm/hth's play now. they r not even competent enough to play with the good ones anymore. not to say about winning the match.

    Now Rexy has split zakry/gtc n lwf/fairuz to create 2 new pairs. who is the leftover this time?

    is it wise of Rexy to make such decisive step into creating another pair of excellence?
     
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    Team result is more important than individual partnerships. Rexy's job is to help the team win. IMO, the 'leftovers' have more to prove and thus have to work harder at it. Not a bad tradeoff at all.
     
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    yeah its true that team result is more important.....but what will the leftovers think about all these new ideas of splitting them up??


    imagine u r the weaker link in a partnership........and u will be scared all the time......having nightmares.....
     
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    success comes along with sacrife...!
     
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    This is a wrong mentality for any pros to take. If they can't perform, they shouldn't be on the team in the first place. Confidence and capability is linked, one cannot have one without the other. If you have no confidence, you won't be able to perform at 100% of your capacity anyways.

    The leftovers gotta settle down and get used to the idea of new partnership and move on. Doubles play and win as a team, I would feel bad if my partner is much stronger and gets accredited more with our wins.

     
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    well, i think it's better to have a pair who are representative rather than having few so so pairs.. at least we can see there are consistent achievements rather than few so so pairs which is not consistent..
    wonder if u guys ever heard abt this.. a genius if he is to allocate with another genius, then they will both improve and "grow" together as there are healthy competition and learning from each other..win-win situation
    but if a genius is to place with a middle standard people, then only the middle standard people will grow while the genius may stop growing or even worse, will decline..
    jz my opinion..no offence;)
     
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    it is very hard to find a balance in every partnership like KKK/TBH. as you can see, most partnership has a stronger n a weaker one. Who would enjoy being the weaker player of a partnership?

    TBH/HTH managed to win world junior but now HTH is going down the hill. im not trying to say that it is a bad idea of Rexy to make these actions, but just feeling sad for the leftovers especially after seeing hth/ccm performed these past 2 days...........hth muz b missing his ex very much.:D:D:D:D:D
     
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    what to do? the weaker 1 sure will be the one being sacrified..this is the new world..so what they can do is to prove to rexy and others that they deserve a place in the team and even though without kkk or tbh, they can still do well!
     
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    Alfa-2...are you suggesting you rather have 2 good teams; TBH/HTH and CCM/KKK winning nothing of significance, than have one team winning them all especially with WC and OLY coming up. The guys are pros, if you do not perform, changes have to be made. If the players further degrade, then sorry, time to say goodbye and groom the next ones...no difference in the corporate world, where underperforming means exit.
    That is a tough decision and what choice do Rexy or YKH have. With the $$$ MAS is giving every year to BAM, results are expected and rightly so, the pressure to win is very high and with CHN so powerful and dominant. Bringing glory to MAS override loyalty to the players, after all, if these players do not perform, BAM will break up the team anyway, no more $$$ for BAM, Rexy and YKH can go find another job, and MAS fans can cry and bash the players...it is all about winning...on the other hand, if TBH/KKK does not win, imagine the heat on Rexy for pairing them up right before ASIAD, MAS fans will scream and wanna Rexy fired for making the idiot decision (check the previous posting where the fans bash Rexy for pairing TBH/KKK up). If I am Rexy, the easy and safest strategy is to maintain the status quo i.e. keep KKK/TBH together, winning nothing but at least can qualify for some SF and keep my job for the time being. What Rexy did, takes courage and I am not sure if you are the coach, you would dare to gamble on this move or has the vision to do it at all! hahaha!:D :D :D
     
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    Being the weakest link is not the coach's fault. If a player is determined to proof himself, he should work harder and smarter. You should depend on your own, rather than praying for a better partner.

    Only you can help yourself, and please don't blame others for your own failure. :cool:
     
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    If you can't keep up with your own teammates, how are you going to compete against the other teams? His decision to split the two pairs was an excellent one, it paid in dividends. AE, AG, MO, SO gold for KKK/TBH. Why would he keep either KKK or TBH back by keeping them with their original partners? A coach's job to is to produce a winning team, and although it is sad for CCM and HTH, it is an inevitable part of life and sports to replace aging players with younger ones, or replace mediocre players with better ones (Not saying that either CCM or HTH is old or mediocre, just making a point about life in sports)
     
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    i think splitting up is good. me personally, in my school's squad, when i play with a doubles partner that i cannot perform with, i want to change that partnership.
    there is no use continue building on that partnership. it would just drag both down. why not go to a new partnership and perform better so that both can excel. and the remaining guys, they form their own partnership and play at a lower level.

    i think the pros understand that if you don't perform, there are consequences.
     
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    Disagree with your shallow comments.The reason why CCM/KKK did not win major titles before was because BAM messed KKK up with XD. When KKK did not play XD, CCM/KKK beat the top MDs (eg TC matches) When KKK played XD in KO07, KKK/TBH did not win KO. Coincidence? Think again. To prove KKK/TBH's greatness Rexy should field KKK to play XD and MD again.I bet with you KKK/TBH will not win that title.
    As for HTH, he needs to gather more match experience than win matches. Fielding him in XD and MD means he can double speed up his match experience.(Look at KOR's LYD. Although he's only 18, because he plays both XD and MD, he's considered to have 4 years match experience even when he started playing at 16) Once he reaches the threshold, he can concentrate on MD and become more formidable with CCM. HTH is a promising young gun. Do not ridicule him.XD is good training for stamina cos the guy has to work like 80% of the team effort .So , early stage it's good for MDs to also play XD to build up their stamina and match experience.
     
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    KKK/CCM n HTH/TBH had been partnering for quite sometime and had also achieved some good results in the recent tournaments before they got splitted up. But all those results are nothing when it comes to comparing with AE, SO, Asiad Gold.......

    not that i disagree with Rexy's decision of splitting up pairs to create better ones, not after KKK/TBH brought MAS much glory after so many years. just that i feel sad for those who are left behind.
     
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    it is just being shallow to call on people's thought a shallow one when u disagree on them. It is definitely fine to disagree with what i have posted, but doing that is ermm......:rolleyes:

    i guess not all ppl around bc has the capability of being polite.;)
     
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    Maybe try pairing CCM back with CCE, pre-2004, and let HTH get experience in XD 1st?

    just an opinion....
     
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    I also think it's pretty unfair..........Chong Ming has been having misfortunes here and there (injuries and the passing of his father), but he has given us some good results when he was with KKK and CCE. They also managed to beat some of the top pairs even though they were the underdogs.
    With HTH playing xd, he can't focus properly, maybe that's why they bunked out in the ABC in the early rounds............it's very unfair............
     
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    yeah, i tot CCM and CCE were good before being split up in 2004, and CCM and KKK were touted to be the next Olympic gold hopefuls...


    .... but now KKK and TBH are superb tho, dats the thing... so out with the old and in with the new... times they are a-changing... Jia you KKK, TBH, CCM, HTH!
     
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    sometimes we'd like to be sentimental and think what if what if ??

    The cruel truth in life is.... if u want to be a champion, you have to work for it , and HARD.

    KKK was as the Chinese saying goes, 'not good enough to be up there, but not too poor to be down there' when he was partnering CCM. However, partnering TBH has given him the ability and opportunity to really shine ! One can't do without the other, they are a team and that they must remember that , first and foremost. In this pair you can see the synergy. Without synergy, both individuals can be good, but that's all. Individuals only and nothing great will come out of it.

    So, the only way for HTH/CCM,TBS/OSH and the other pairs, the only way is to go up. Become the strong link yourself, and then irregardless of who you are partnering, you will fare well and who knows, your day will definitely come. SELF BELIEF is important. Never look back anymore.

    Rexy is a professional. He has a job to do. So does YKH. Who will remember that you created so-so pairs who made it, then don't make it ?
     
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    Every success there is a sacrifice. Not everything is sweet and smooth.
     
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