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    Default Chenís comeback bad for China, says coach Yongbo

    hey guys i recently read this from thestar:



    Chenís comeback bad for China, says coach Yongbo
    BEIJING: China badminton coach Li Yongbo said Chen Hongís comeback to competition after retiring for only two months was not good for the national team.
    World No.5 Chen Hong, who quit the national team after being omitted from the talent-rich squad for last Decemberís Asian Games, returned to action this week as a free player at the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) in Malaysia.
    Chen Hong, competing as a free agent outside the national team Ė paying his own tour expenses but keeping all of his winnings Ė was ďabsolutely not a good thing for the national teamĒ, Yongbo told yesterdayís Beijing Youth Daily.
    ďWhen Chen Hong first brought up his retirement, he was still a top player, and it wasnít the case that he had no chance of competing at next yearís Olympics,Ē Yongbo said.
    The coaching staff had worked hard to keep him, Yongbo said, but Chen Hong had insisted.
    ďIn the end, we approved his retirement out of respect for his wishes. But now he is playing under his own name. As far as weíre concerned, this is, of course, not a good thing.
    Chen Hong, who recently secured a sponsorship with a Chinese clothing company, yesterday broke through to the semi-finals at the on-going ABC meet in Johor Baru.
    He beat Japanís Yousuke Nakanishi 21-15, 12-21, 21-16.
    Chinaís paternal sport administrations take a dim view of athletes perceived to have shunned national team goals in the pursuit of personal gain.
    Last month, Olympic diving champion Tian Liang retired after being banished from the national team for several years for taking part in too many commercial activities. Ė Reuters


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    Personally I believe Chen Hong has the right to play as an individual 'enterprise', but maybe thats because I come from a democratic country...not a communist one like China where it isnt exactly good to place yourself before the common goals of the team. As a badminton fan I really couldn't care less about the politics involved with national sports bodies, as long as skilled players such as Chen continue playing im happy

    What is everyone elses view this matter?

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    I'm not suprised by his move... years ago he did told me about moving out from Team China.. but i didnt expect him to retire and come out from retirement so fast.. anyway its good for him.

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    Good for Chen Hong for being an individual in communist China! *applauds*

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    Default Any Chinese Coach with CH?

    Does anyone know if he is accompanied by any chinese coach now? Or is he alone during tournaments?

    thanks!

    BTW. I fully support his decision to play on his own. True that China Badminton made him like he is today. But eventually young players will emerge and there will be no more spot for him. When that time comes he can decide to play on his own. I think China Badminton should accept this fact of life too.
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    When people (including everyone here) claimed Chen Hong's retire. I did point out he would continue to play (for Taiwan perhaps). I didn't know him personally, and I didn't have any evidence that time. But I knew he would not retire definitely just by feeling the words he said before.

    This time, Chen Hong flight to Malaysia with nobody but himself. This approves again that coaching is not that important. Even the training is not that important either. I still think he will go to Taiwan sooner or later. There is not much space for personal development in China. Good luck to him.

    LYB also said, Chen Hong will phase out quickly just by himself. He must have trained himself in his backyard with his father. Once he goes to Taiwan, he can be both a player and a coach. at least he can play with another professional player, his wife, (cannot remember her name).

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    wah.. now i know. China BA so "kia su" one.

    support chen hong. hope !!! i dun see any reason it is no good as per yong bo. one has to "take care" of one self.

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    i can kind of understand why LYB would be a bit upset. China put a lot of money and time to produce a player like CH. i can guarantee that China is expecting money back from him, not only for the effort that had to provide but also to keep their training regime going.

    also, LYB could fear that this could set a bad example for other players (especially younger ones) who are just starting out on the national team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgao_net
    i can kind of understand why LYB would be a bit upset. China put a lot of money and time to produce a player like CH. i can guarantee that China is expecting money back from him, not only for the effort that had to provide but also to keep their training regime going.

    also, LYB could fear that this could set a bad example for other players (especially younger ones) who are just starting out on the national team.
    No man, LYB only thinks for himself. He is afraid of the rumours that the prize money is not good for China players with CH playing as a free-agent now. He keep saying it isnt a good thing for the national team is all because of his own dignity and reputation. Who cares as long as CH is enjoying although the winning(s) all goes to him alone, sounds bad

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    LYB small gas... in lay man term?

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    Is Chen Hong still representing China in tournaments? I understand he has secured a local sponsorship but does it mean he could play in 2008 Olympics if he qualified?

    Yeah, I can understand why LYB is upset about Chen Hong, but I dun like LYB either. He has shown no respects to spectators (who bought tickets to watch all-china players final in few tournaments) and the great badminton itself. Shame to U, LYB.

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    I would give Chen Hong PR so that he can play for a new country. He is worth it even if it is for a couple of years of play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Ball
    I would give Chen Hong PR so that he can play for a new country. He is worth it even if it is for a couple of years of play.
    Yes, only a few players in the world can beat Chen Hong. At LCW's current form, I doubt he can beat CH.

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    Even though i'm chinese, i would say that some of their rules and ideologies are like joke... I mean, if Chen Hong's intention is to really qualify for the olympics, china just can't take away a portion of his tourney winnings (like the one they're doing with Yao Ming) because CH needs it to compete and to register in top tournaments... I also can't see the reason why LYB won't allow CH to train by himself... I mean, if CH will represent China afterall, and let's say win the olympics, China didn't spend any money for Chen Hong's training... It's like double bonus... getting a gold and not spending any money...

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    Less match fixing

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    i support chen hong...omho maybe the reason why LYB's not happy with it b'cuz it might give some ideas to the other players(specially the younger generation like what jgao_net said) that "hmmm....i could play for myself and ill keep all the winnings"....just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by glencomienda111
    i support chen hong...omho maybe the reason why LYB's not happy with it b'cuz it might give some ideas to the other players(specially the younger generation like what jgao_net said) that "hmmm....i could play for myself and ill keep all the winnings"....just a thought
    yeah, that could be a reason... but let's remember that if you're in a "single enterprise," the national team will not handle your expenses... And more or less, you will be spending your winnings in plane tickets, hotels and tourney registrations... in CH's case, i don't think that Victor is fully sponsoring him... afterall, yonex sponsored players are fully sponsored either...

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    maybe after all the years hes been playing and winning hes already saved some for these kinds of situation. even if victor's not fully sponsoring him, a little goes a long way.

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