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10-03-2011, 09:21 PM #86
Even if Rexy started coaching WKW/Vivian, he can not claim credit for he is just there for less than a month.
10-03-2011, 09:49 PM #87
No doubt China is strongest team at the moment and they have a very strong tradition in WD.
But MAS players have to step in the court thinking we are here to win. Mental is very important. How we think is crucial to our success. WKW/Vivian has this quality.
Most importantly KW/Vivian and their coaches must keep improving and keep watching their opponents as well. Well, if the Chinese can analyze our team, we can keep a close watch on them as well. Sport is all about competition. To keep winning , we must not afraid of competition. In fact, we should welcome them.
10-03-2011, 11:17 PM #88
Woon Khe Wei- Vivian Hoo
Having watched the Indo Open GP Gold WD final match partially, I have formed some opinions.
Firstly, I am very impressed with Vivian Hoo. She smashes hard and steep. I think she has the better match temperament in the pair. However, Woon Khe Wei is clearly better at the net, probably because she also plays mix-doubles for the last few years which has helped her to develop this ability. Any half-chances that comes her way, she kills it. At times she makes the Chinese front court player, Bao Yixin, look ordinary.
Nonetheless, I do worry about Woon Khe Wei's footwork. I think this is something that can be improved upon. She was also more prone to errors than Vivian Hoo.
This pair definitely have some raw talent. However, let's hope that Rexy will come along and fine-tune this pair to challenge the Chinese supremacy in women's doubles.
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10-04-2011, 11:38 AM #89
As the CHN coaches will definitely be monitoring this upcoming pair from now onwards..no more surprise factor in the future. The girls certainly have to have a few aces up their sleeve
10-04-2011, 07:16 PM #90
I believe Rexy can claim it. As long as you have those ability to fine tune your players.
All you need is a few good players who 'can listen' well and follow instructions. This can up your level by 10-20%. You've done coaching?
During KKK win in AE days, it was not long as well. For my standard. So this should not be counted? How long do you think it takes then?
It's the enthusiasm of the players and the quality of the coach who know what it takes to win.
10-04-2011, 08:13 PM #91
I don't want to make it sound as though I am a pessimist. However, I'm not sure how well the players can change their roles. The examples I will quote are all in men's doubles. I can't quote the women's doubles examples because I am not as familiar with them.
In every top men's pair, there is clearly an established front court player and back court player.
The front court players are: Cai Yun, Lee Yong Dae, KKK, Hendra Setiawan.
Their respective partners are usually the power hitters from the back of the court: Fu HaiFeng, Jung Jae-Sung, TBH and Markis Kido.
Even after so many years, FHF still cannot play well if he is occupying the front court. Same with TBH, Markis and JJS. They have gotten better with time, but they are still a bit suspect at times.
Hence, I am not sure how well Khe Wei and Vivian can be trained to swap their roles.
It would be ideal if both are versatile and can play front or back. Maybe this will be Rexy's challenge hor?
10-04-2011, 09:59 PM #92
If he indeed started coaching our WD. Based on news announcement untill last week, it is less then a month. No no no! To me that is taking away credit from their existing coach.
Rexy is a big name and he is a good coach but credit must not be taken away from our local coach that has been working with the WD for years. Make no mistake. WKW/Vivian have been together for about 6 months and they made appearance in last 8 and last 4 in at least 3 tournaments. They were already making progresses and breakthroughs. Besides, who has the eye to spot them and put them together at the first place? It is not Rexy.
During AE days, kkk teamed up with TBH and Rexy not too long but certainly not LESS THAN A MONTH. In addition, for kkk/TBH case, at least Rexy were there together with Yap Kim Hock to spot their talent / compatibility and put them together. But in KW/VIvian case it was our local coach that nurtured them.
I say Rexy can claim credit if he can help WKW/Vivian to achieve consistent success in future but not this one.
10-04-2011, 10:08 PM #93
10-04-2011, 10:39 PM #94
Courtesy of NST
For your reading pleasure :
Badminton: Vivian, Khe Wei offer hope for BAM 2011/10/04
MALAYSIA have run dry of talent, especially in the national women's squad, but the emergence of Vivian Hoo-Woon Khe Wei offers some hope for the future after the retirement of Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui. Vivian and Khe Wei are not newcomers and have been in the national senior team for four years but the lack of emphasis on their development by the BA of Malaysia (BAM) may have delayed their arrival on the international stage.
The fact that BAM has been changing women's doubles coaches regularly has not helped matters but Pang Cheh Chang's tenure as the coach for the third year has provided some impact.
Vivian-Khe Wei had been tried out a couple of years ago without much success but Cheh Chang kept faith in them and the results are starting to show.
Vivian, 21, and Khe Wei, 22, have the right attributes to make a strong impact but much will depend on how current women's doubles head coach Rexy Mainaky moulds them.
Both players have battling qualities and play without fear and have the ideal build to match China's pairs, although they are still way behind the top 10 combinations.
Vivian is skilful while Khe Wei is solid in defence and neither has fitness or injury worries which have dogged Eei Hui throughout her career.
China's Cheng Shu-Pan Pan are an experienced combination while Bao Yixin-Zhong Qianxin are one of China's rising pairs, so beating both pairs to win the Indonesia Open underlines Vivian-Khe Wei's ability and talent.
It cannot be seen as a flash in the pan as Vivian-Khe Wei have other results to justify their potential. They have also reached the semi-finals of two other grand prix events -- the Taiwan Open and Thailand Open -- this year.
In fact, they only started playing as a pair in June and made the semi-finals of the Thailand Open and winning their first grand prix gold title in just four months says much about their character.
Read more: Badminton: Vivian, Khe Wei offer hope for BAM http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/i...#ixzz1ZsJsJ0t0
10-04-2011, 10:42 PM #95
Courtesy of The Star :
Khe Wei-Vivian a breath of fresh air for Malaysian badminton
Success in the women’s doubles is hard to come by for Malaysia. With giants China dominating the event, it is really difficult for the rest of the world to win even a title.
So when Malaysia finally landed a women’s doubles title last Sunday, it really came as a huge surprise. Woon Khe Wei and Vivian Hoo were thought to be one of the pairs making up the numbers at the Indonesian Open GP Gold in East Kalimantan.
The Malaysians made people sit up when they toppled Cheng Shu-Pan Pan 21-15, 18-21, 21-18 in a titanic quarter-final tussle. Then came Thailand’s Sujitra Ekmongkolpaisarn-Punyada Munkitchokecharoen in the semi-finals. Again, Khe Wei and Vivian raised their game a notch. They easily won 21-12, 21-13 in just 23 minutes. It was their first-ever final in an international tournament. Previously, their best-ever results were semi-final appearances at the Thailand and Taiwan Opens.
Bao Yixin and Zhong Qianxin of China were up next in the final. Not a top-ranked Chinese pair yet, the duo arrived in East Kalimantan as winners of the Japan Open a week earlier.
The odds were stacked against Khe Wei and Vivian. But Khe Wei and Vivian refused to be cowed by the Chinese reputation. They lost the first game 19-21. In the next game, the Malaysians surprisingly turned the tables on the Chinese with a 21-19 win.
In the decider, the Malaysians showed great tenacity and fighting spirit to claw back from 10-13 down to lead 20-18. A beautiful net winner by Khe Wei saw the Malaysians take the match and their first-ever title.
It was just reward for the hard-working pair. And it was Malaysia’s first title since Chin Eei Hui and Wong Pei Tty’s triumph at the 2009 Super Series Masters Finals.
Age is catching up with the former world number one. Both are expected to call it quits after next year’s London Olympics. The emergence of Khe Wei and Vivian is like a breath of fresh air for Malaysian badminton. At least, there is now hope of a capable pair taking over from Eei Hui and Pei Tty.
It has not been a good month for Malaysia with world number one Lee Chong Wei losing to Chen Long in the men’s singles final at the Japan Open. It may just be a minor title, but Khe Wei and Vivian have brought some cheer to the Malaysian camp.
But there is a word of caution from national women’s doubles coach Rexy Mainaky.
“I don’t want the success of winning a title to get to their heads. They must not lose their focus and discipline. Khe Wei and Vivian need to maintain their consistency and carry on with a good training attitude and discipline if they are to become a top pair in the future,” said Rexy.
He believes Khe Wei-Vivian can still improve and wants them to keep their feet firmly on the ground.
“It’s a good win for Khe Wei-Vivian and it’s a promising performance but there is still room for them to improve,” said Rexy.
For Khe Wei and Vivian, there is the SEA Games next month. And they will be back in Indonesia for more glory.
So let’s keep going Khe Wei and Vivian, Malaysia is watching and cheering for you.
10-05-2011, 01:47 AM #96
Too much praise to them i am afraid they will be another KKK/TBH's.
10-05-2011, 01:54 AM #97
10-05-2011, 02:19 AM #98
I think it is a bit of a double-edged sword here.
On the one hand, they have to be given some credit for winning a title, even if it is a minor one. In the process they managed to defeat 1 established Chinese pair, and another up and coming pair. You have to start somewhere, and they have taken some steps here. Not everyone can just anyhow go win Asian Games gold medal and All-England in their first few major tournaments ala KKK/TBH.
But as mentioned by Rexy, they need to continue to work hard, maintain discipline, and carry on with a good attitude.
It is also heartwarming to see interest in their development as demonstrated by the media. However, at the same time, it is also somewhat sad that Malaysia has been so starved of success in women's badminton that even a small title like this generates so much interest and hope.
Is this going to pile additional pressure on Khe Wei and Vivian? Is this just a false dawn and we have gotten our hopes up prematurely? Even Wong Pei Ty and Chin Ee Hui took many years before establishing themselves on the world stage. Only time will tell what fate awaits this young pair of Khe Wei and Vivian.
I just hope that they continue to be professional, respect their coach, work hard and continue to develop/improve further. Too often our athletes just don't quite make it. Malaysia needs some success badly.
Don't know how come we can have a Nicol David dominating Women's squash like nobody's business but despite so much more money pumped into badminton that we can't produce world-class women badminton players.
Anyway, end of my few cents worth.
10-05-2011, 02:33 AM #99
I share your concern. I am not too comfortable seeing WKW rub shoulder with KKK/TBH as well.
Please don't say I am jealous. I just don't want WKW to get some attitudes from the flamboyant KKK. I certainly don't want KKK to influence WKW to do tattoo.....spoil everything.
10-05-2011, 02:50 AM #100
It is WKW/Vivian's job to keep focus and not let this success get into their head.
Yes I agree they must continue to be professional, respect their coaches, work hard and keep improving.
As a player, what other people says, including whatever media reporting is beyond their control.
But they can control their trainings, their attitudes, their focus on court and how they think.
10-05-2011, 03:29 AM #101
This enlightened me on how easily Arif and OSH skip tranning........
10-05-2011, 04:01 AM #102
Tan Kim Her is doing the right thing. BAM should fully support a strong minded coach like TKH.
Bloody OSH is now a senior in the team and still behave a boy!? If Arif get influenced by this kind of behaviour he can forget about being great in badminton.
WKW/Vivian need "insulation" so that this kind of attitudes don't get to them. Their coaches played a very important role. They are still very young.
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