Smiling Fish Thailand International Series, May 1-6

[Sandy]

here is link of the Draw

http://www.badmintonasia.org/event_d...spx?eventID=89

[huangkwokhau]

I met and talked to Yuan Kartika on saturday morning at the airport on the way to Thailand...I was on the way to Hong Kong...she told me that there are 13 of them but in the draw it is more than 13...may be some from Jarum???

[Sandy]

I met and talked to Yuan Kartika on saturday morning at the airport on the way to Thailand...I was on the way to Hong Kong...she told me that there are 13 of them but in the draw it is more than 13...may be some from Jarum???

I count Pelatnas send 15 players, any players withdrew or Fernando/Subakti play for Djarum ?
The Others are 8 Djarum and 2 Jaya Raya.

[huangkwokhau]

Thanks sandy....I asked her which tournaments Pelatnas will send them after Indo Open..she said ..may be NZ or Vietnam.....any info from jarum/Jaya raya...I am glad that clubs send those youngters....I have along talk with Yayuk Basuki...she is satgas for Badminton/tennis meja/softball/baseball/takraw and tennis..she praised Jarum a lot being so active in badminton as it is red ligght for indo's badminton....honestly many crises in our sport management...so sad....from tennis to badminton

[Sandy]

Thanks sandy....I asked her which tournaments Pelatnas will send them after Indo Open..she said ..may be NZ or Vietnam.....any info from jarum/Jaya raya...I am glad that clubs send those youngters....I have along talk with Yayuk Basuki...she is satgas for Badminton/tennis meja/softball/baseball/takraw and tennis..she praised Jarum a lot being so active in badminton as it is red ligght for indo's badminton....honestly many crises in our sport management...so sad....from tennis to badminton

For long time, PBSI has been known as well sport association, much different style with other association. After crisis their performance went down, poor players sending management and youngster development. Djarum is one of badminton club which take care on young players development and send them in some international event. Not surprised some Djarum players keep stay train in club or left Pelatnas and back to club.

I think Djarum will send players to Viet Nam with different squad, my prediction (Andre, Ari, Sylvinna, Rosaria, Maria Elfira, Sigit/Frans, Meliana/Shendy and maybe the "new" pair Yonathan/Rian Sukmawan)

Indonesian Tennis isn't better, after Wynne Prakusya retired and Angelique Widjaja got long time injury. Hopeless until new star born, maybe the next hope in 13-14 y.o. girl, Isopora (I mean Grace Sari Ysadora, he he)

[badMania]

I think Djarum will send players to Viet Nam with different squad, my prediction (Andre, Ari, Sylvinna, Rosaria, Maria Elfira, Sigit/Frans, Meliana/Shendy and maybe the "new" pair Yonathan/Rian Sukmawan)

U mean Yonathan Suryatama also quits from Pelatnas? What happens to Eng Hian then?

Since Rian/Eng Hian is well-placed for the World Championships, I am wondering if PBSI is sending them there?

[Sandy]

U mean Yonathan Suryatama also quits from Pelatnas? What happens to Eng Hian then?

Since Rian/Eng Hian is well-placed for the World Championships, I am wondering if PBSI is sending them there?

I read it in bulutangkis.com, Yonathan quits from Pelatnas and maybe paired with Rian.
I'm also not agree if Djarum split Eng Hian/Rian pair, they have good ranking and it's good for up-grade Rian's level.
In some smaller tournament Rian paired with other player like Ade Lukas, Titon Bustaman, etc.
Yonathan should be paired again with Alroy Tanama Putra (HKG) if posible, they had good record when junior.

[yannie]

U mean Yonathan Suryatama also quits from Pelatnas? What happens to Eng Hian then?

Since Rian/Eng Hian is well-placed for the World Championships, I am wondering if PBSI is sending them there?

After Indonesia Open, Eng Hian might consider to retire. It's most possible for Rian to be paired up with Yonathan. Perhaps they'll become Indonesia/Djarum's version of KKK-TBH?

Dunno whether they're going to WC in KL or not. I think nope..

[badMania]

Sigh...look's like Pelatnas young players now consider it better for their future to quite the Pelatnas and re-join their club

Yonathan/Rian could potentially become good....

[yannie]

Sigh...look's like Pelatnas young players now consider it better for their future to quite the Pelatnas and re-join their club

Yonathan/Rian could potentially become good....

They are welcome to come to Denmark (or England like Flandy/Eng Hian) to play too..

[Krisna]

From what I heard, Djarum had no choice but disband the Rian-Eng Hian pair because Eng Hian retired from competitive badminton and take up the Singapore Elite Doubles coaching job. Eng Hian will coach Hendra-Hendri, Li Yujia etc. ...starting July.

Oh well, I can understand Eng Hian's position, he has been with PB Djarum and playing competitive badminton since he was 13 or something. He has contributed an Olympic bronze medal for Indonesia, won almost all the major GP tournaments [not the World Championship and All England], and reach the #1 world ranking etc. He is 30 [I think], he's pretty much all done with competitive badminton, has a family to support, need stability, and the Singapore coaching job opened, he jumped on it...

[yannie]

From what I heard, Djarum had no choice but disband the Rian-Eng Hian pair because Eng Hian retired from competitive badminton and take up the Singapore Elite Doubles coaching job. Eng Hian will coach Hendra-Hendri, Li Yujia etc. ...starting July.

Oh well, I can understand Eng Hian's position, he has been with PB Djarum and playing competitive badminton since he was 13 or something. He has contributed an Olympic bronze medal for Indonesia, won almost all the major GP tournaments [not the World Championship and All England], and reach the #1 world ranking etc. He is 30 [I think], he's pretty much all done with competitive badminton, has a family to support, need stability, and the Singapore coaching job opened, he jumped on it...

OMG. But that sounds like a very good job for him though. Good luck, Eng Hian......

[Krisna]

Belaetrix M. who is playing in WS and WD in this Thailand Series is from PB Jaya Raya. She was runner up to Sylvinna Kurniawan of Djarum at the 2006 National Junior Championship in Medan. That finals was one of the most terrific match I ever witnessed... the score was er... something like 23-21, 20-22, 25-23 for Sylvi... The match went on for more than one hour, going back and forth, back and forth... So crazy!

Belaetrix was cramping and limping when she played her second match of the day with Samantha Lintang in the Junior Doubles beating Luluk-Debby of Djarum. That match also went for more than one hour with Belaetrix-Samantha prevailing....

This week Belaetrix-Samantha is in Thailand... It is good that PB Jaya Raya is joining in the fray, along with PB Djarum in developing prospective youngsters by taking additional steps, not just relying on Pelatnas...

[huangkwokhau]

Why Singapore always take Indonesian players...just this week,,,one Indoneisna plays for Singapore won Walikota Surabaya cup...this is what exactly we talk ( me and Yayuk) that Indo governemnts should think some lifetime salary for players who win Olympics or any Asian games...like bang Soo Yun got US$ 1000 monthly or more ..lifetime...not bad..!!

[Krisna]

The Indonesian government cannot promise such "lifetime athlete benefits" because we might not have the budget for it in the coming decades... Better to increase the promotional/endorsement environment, more prize money [more $$$ for the athlete] like in the US.

Note: the US government do not give "lifetime athlete benefits", but I think those successful athletes who can save money had saved enough to enjoy the rest of their lives... [I am not talking about Mike Tyson here, he could manage to blow away his $ 400 million somehow...]

And... 0% tax rate on athlete income. Anyway, let's not talk about this anymore, this thread is about the Thailand Series, he he he...

[Krisna]

Bandar Sigit Pamungkas vs. Lim Fang Yang
Wisnu Haryo Putro vs. Wong Wai Hong [4]
Indra Bagus vs. Chew Koe Seang
Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka vs. Hung Yuk Wong [8]
Nugroho Andi Saputro vs. Loo Yik Xiang

My winner prediction in bold...

[badMania]

Here's the news on the possible pairing up of Yonathan with Rian, both of which are still young and have a bright future ahead of them.

Berita terkini yang saya dengar, mundurnya salah satu
pemain ganda putra Indonesia (Jonathan) dari Pelatnas
Cipayung. maka mulai tanggal 23 April 2007 pasangan
Jonathan/Yoga Ukikasah peringkat 34 BWF resmi pecah.
Jonathan memutuskan meninggalkan Pelatnas dikarenakan
memang sudah tidak tahan lagi dengan kebijakan
pengurus PBSI yang sepertinya tidak/kurang
memperhatikan mereka.

"saya udah ngga tahan bang... udah 4 tahun di pelatnas
tapi saya jarang sekali dikirim bertanding, mending
saya balik ke klub saya (Djarum) aja deh bang.."
kalimat itu terlontar dari Jonathan ketika saya
ngobrol dengannya pada hari Minggu 22 April 2007.
Menurut info dari "Yoke" (nama panggilan Jonathan)
klubnya menyambut dia dengan tangan terbuka dan
kemungkinan dia akan berpasangan dengan Rian Sukmawan.

Kembali lagi kita melihat salah satu pemain Pelatnas
yang cukup bagus tapi sangat disayangkan harus mundur
dan memilih membela klubnya. sangat ironis memang,
ketika dia lebih memilih klub dibandingkan dengan
membela negara/Pelatnas.

Saat ini Yoke/Yoga merupakan ganda putra no 4 di
indonesia, setelah Markis/Hendra, Luluk/Alven, Hendra
AG/Joko. kalau melihat kualitas permainan maka bisa
dipastikan bahwa Yoke/Yoga setara dengan 3 pasangan
terbaik indonesia lainnya, tapi memang itu sudah
keputusannya. saya hanya bisa bilang ke Yoke, "Yoke...
disinilah saatnya untuk elo ngebuktiin diri. sama
seperti Chandra/Toni ketika "dibuang" malah lebih
berprestasi..."