User Tag List

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 1 to 17 of 54
  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    KL
    Posts
    4,754
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default MISBUN's REJUVENATION

    Yes, despite all your stinging remarks about Misbun, I am saying he should be promoted back to being the official BAM's Singles Coach. And no 'BUT' please !

    Why you ask ? BECAUSE AN INJUSTICE WAS DONE TO HIM ! When Hafiz dropped in form after the ALL-ENGLAND, they called in Li Mao but it was not to train HAFIZ but everybody else. Why ? You should ask ?

    Now look at Hafiz beating a revitalised LCW, who was going to improve. What does it mean....it means Misbun was a good coach, it was the Hafiz, the BAD player.

    With Hafiz now saying he will be more motivated to win because of his impending marriage (needs the money more than ever I bet !), it proves my point that there was nothing wrong with the coaching but everything to do with the motivation of the player.

    Sure, for those who want a foreign coach, think about this : Li Mao left in a hurry after less than a couple of years services and all it did was raised LCW to become a loser eventually. Is this for the good of all Malaysian players ? Did you not hear it from LCW --- he voluntarily went back to Misbun ? Why don't you hear it from the player himself --- he would not be wrong because it would mean the worse for his career if he goes back to the wrong coach. He knows Misbun is good.

    So, think again you shallow fans of no faith in your own countryman coach. Shame on you !
    Last edited by X Ball; 05-03-2007 at 06:13 AM.

  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    London & Penang
    Posts
    6,628
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    i think you might not have all the facts right on this one. as far as i can remember, when li mao was hired, HH was given a choice and he chose to continue training under misbun.

    as for li mao leaving in a hurry, that's BAM's fault and not his own. stalling a coach on a new contract for months on end is very demoralising and not having job security is a concern, so i don't blame li mao for taking a firmer offer elsewhere.

  3. #3
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    KL
    Posts
    4,754
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamzz
    i think you might not have all the facts right on this one. as far as i can remember, when li mao was hired, HH was given a choice and he chose to continue training under misbun.

    as for li mao leaving in a hurry, that's BAM's fault and not his own. stalling a coach on a new contract for months on end is very demoralising and not having job security is a concern, so i don't blame li mao for taking a firmer offer elsewhere.
    Yeah they did not think it was Misbun's faults that Hafiz droppd in form,which is my point. And Li Mao was not forced to quit, he just felt insecure and did not want to wait around like the other coaches (BAM always said they were going to rehire all of them but they have to wait).

    But my point here is MISBUN SHOULD BE RECONFIRMED AS HEAD SINGLES Coach.

  4. #4
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    779
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Fresh idea but your point are not strong enough to convince me Misbun deserves it. Look at players under his belt, show me the results !!! The fact that Hafiz beat LCW by surprise at this tournament only tells me LCW continues to go downhill, Hafiz remains the same old Hafiz who can no longer show any promises.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    336
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I believe Hafiz will lose to a lower rank player in the Aviva Open soon. LCW is just too lousy recently. I dun want to comment him anymore. Just too upset...

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    US
    Posts
    2,613
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I think this thread can be settled. Hafiz just convincingly lost to Boonsak. So it's LCW playing worse than before, not Hafiz bounce back.

    Quote Originally Posted by ck1981
    I believe Hafiz will lose to a lower rank player in the Aviva Open soon. LCW is just too lousy recently. I dun want to comment him anymore. Just too upset...

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    135
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Agreed, Hafiz is a goner already. I cannot understand why BAM is still banging on him. He is probably the MOST unreliable, inconsistent player I ever seen in M'sian badmintnon history. At least I can see Kuan BH made an effort though losing to Chen Yu today.
    As I have mentioned before, there is NO WAy Hafiz will put in 100% effort into playing badminton anymore as he is already a millionaire (in RM) after winning AE.

  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    icy cold place
    Posts
    3,778
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    [quote=block306] As I have mentioned before, there is NO WAy Hafiz will put in 100% effort into playing badminton anymore as he is already a millionaire (in RM) after winning AE.

    Can you confirm this, RM$1m payout or are you guessing? That is very interesting and I sure would like to know, thanks.

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    114
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Actually for Kuan BH and Hafiz, there is no other direction for them except down...

  10. #10
    Administrator kwun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Santa Clara, California, United States
    Posts
    36,148
    Mentioned
    55 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by X Ball

    Why you ask ? BECAUSE AN INJUSTICE WAS DONE TO HIM ! When Hafiz dropped in form after the ALL-ENGLAND, they called in Li Mao but it was not to train HAFIZ but everybody else. Why ? You should ask ?
    i think that's an injustice done to Hafiz more than to Misbun. but perhaps not as i remember correctly, it was Hafiz own choosing to continue to train under Misbun, afterall, he was from the Mahsuri stable and i think he held some loyalty to his coach.

    so imho, no injustice are done here. it is all to each person's own choosing.

  11. #11
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    London & Penang
    Posts
    6,628
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    yup, i agree that HH's inconsistency is a problem. he obviously has the skill and talent to beat the best players in the world, but i think he needs some mental training more than physical training at the moment. i bet you if he had a mentor/sports phychologist/motivator he'd be a different player.

    as for KBH, he remains an enigma to me. he seems to produce his best form when he's up against the top players, eventually losing a close tie. however, when he plays against lower ranked/skilled opponents, he doesn't appear to have to bottle to defeat them.

  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    alberta/Canada
    Posts
    616
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hopefully, people don't carry much false hope on either LCW or HH any more. Both of them seems to be very happy if they are to be the successor of LHI as the new Mr. Quarter-finalist... funny how LCW said he wants to make it to the semi for once this year in either the Singapore or Indonesia Open when he has to beat Lin Dan in both event to get there. Now that he couldn't even beat Hafiz, when Hafiz admitted that he was already tired... How in the world is he going to beat Lin Dan whom has more stamina and a much better player than Hafiz???

  13. #13
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    779
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    This only reveals a serious flaw in BAM system or they have too much money to burn. I do not believe Mal is short of young talent players. However, Hafiz (another player in the same league is Lee Tsuan Seng ) is just there in every tournament and we know he will be out in early rounds, its so predictable. Why keep him there ??? Why keep players who no longer show promises ??? Do like China, promote the young players and kick those seniors out if they cannot advance anymore.

  14. #14
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    KL
    Posts
    4,754
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Hmmm.....I think everyone has strong ideas here like me.

    I am still not convinced that Hafiz nor LCW are not back on track even though they are out of the SO this early, which I think is only because Hafiz expended too much energy trying to prove a point that LCW can be beaten by him.

    I think both of them are getting better but unfortunately you are guys get to call the shot here because Hafiz could not carry on to prove the case.

    As far as I am concerned, nobody can blame Misbun because he had shown that his coaching had gotten positive results before : e.g. Hafiz with AE, WCH with runners-up in World Championship (and No.1 momentarily), and LCW gaining from his tutelage and breaking into the big-time (multiple MOs).

    I think the players and perhaps an inexperienced BAM are to be blamed - BAM for not making sure the players sustained their efforts by enforcing strict training regimes, and players for taking easy and letting their mindsets be weakened by gifts/money. Sometimes giving too much too quickly takes away the motivation of the players.

  15. #15
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Klang, Selangor. Malaysia.
    Posts
    237
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    ... do any of them can 'cope' with the rest of the world ? or they r just playing thier best ... same with the coaches ... they do the best they can think of .. but sometimes the best in them is not as good as the rest of the world is packed with .... and ... misbun as head coach is a joke ! i seriously believe that if hafiz was training under li mao instead of lcw ... hafiz could just have wat it takes to be lin dan's greatest rival .... th is just old lol
    tats onli my believe dont ask idiot questions please lol i repeat dont ask stupitt questions

  16. #16
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    653
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Misbun's Rejuvenation? nah.... unlikely... he doesnt seem to have that ooomph to be the head coach...

    look now, at the Singapore Open, the best singles performer is Wong Choon Hahn, and who coaches him? Wong Tat Meng...

  17. #17
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    336
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Everytime Hafiz and LCW represent Msia, their results are predictable. They will not bring any title home. Why BAM still want to waste money on them?
    If I were BAM, I would rather pick the youngsters with good prospect to play the tournaments. At least we have something to look forward.

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Misbun's new role in the BAM
    By Bbn in forum Professional Players
    Replies: 6
    : 05-03-2011, 01:15 AM
  2. Misbun's Proteges
    By Bbn in forum Malaysia Professional Players
    Replies: 23
    : 01-10-2011, 06:05 AM
  3. LCW+Misbun combination
    By ixory in forum Malaysia Professional Players
    Replies: 266
    : 01-05-2011, 03:09 AM
  4. misbun sidek-help!!!
    By Anil Kishore in forum Malaysia
    Replies: 33
    : 09-24-2008, 12:14 AM
  5. Misbun: I will go if I have to
    By jaclyn in forum Olympics ATHENS 2004
    Replies: 56
    : 09-14-2004, 11:35 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •