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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    Forget about Bona/Ahsan...they have proven yet again that they are NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

    The coaches better field an experimental line-up during Thomas Cup Finals instead of fielding Bona/Ahsan and Kido/Hendra or Alvent/AG. For the sake of regeneration, they better include Rian/Angga!
    Agree, as i have mentioned before. They should include Rian/Angga at the team, it is better to leave Bona & Hendra AG in exchange for Rian/Angga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    Agree, as i have mentioned before. They should include Rian/Angga at the team, it is better to leave Bona & Hendra AG in exchange for Rian/Angga.
    I agree with u, maybe they should leave Bona and Markis.
    MD#1: Rian/Angga
    MD#2: Hendra setiawan/ Moh.Ahsan

    these pairs of MD might spring some surprise.

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    I want to see the following players being selected for the Thomas Cup Finals:
    Singles - Simon Santoso, Taufik Hidayat (like it or not, both highest ranked MS players are still needed for experience), Tommy Sugiarto, and Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka or Alamsyah Yunus (again, they are our next highest-ranked players)

    Doubles - Hendra Setiawan, Alvent Yulianto Chandra (both are needed for experience and to spring surprises against teams like Japan and Denmark), Bona Septano (his partnership with Ahsan still needs to gain valuable points for Olympics seeding), Mohd Ahsan, Rian Agung Saputro, and Angga Pratama

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan92 View Post
    I agree with u, maybe they should leave Bona and Markis.
    MD#1: Rian/Angga
    MD#2: Hendra setiawan/ Moh.Ahsan

    these pairs of MD might spring some surprise.
    Yes.. I have mentioned it earlier as well.. Rian/Angga as 1st MD & Ahsan/Hendra as 2nd MD is quite a must when we face CHN & KOR, since none pair of our Doubles team might be able to beat their 1st MD, therefore we should be able to beat their 2nd pair to gain point, and in my opinion Ahsan/Hendra is the safest bet while Rian/Angga might gain experience facing CY/FHF & LYD/JJS. When facing CHN we will most likely losing 1st MS & 1st MD, in order to beat them we must win the remaining. On the other hand we might be able to gain point on 1st MS while facing KOR, since their 2nd MD is quite strong, stronger than CB/GZD...

    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    I want to see the following players being selected for the Thomas Cup Finals:
    Singles - Simon Santoso, Taufik Hidayat (like it or not, both highest ranked MS players are still needed for experience), Tommy Sugiarto, and Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka or Alamsyah Yunus (again, they are our next highest-ranked players)

    Doubles - Hendra Setiawan, Alvent Yulianto Chandra (both are needed for experience and to spring surprises against teams like Japan and Denmark), Bona Septano (his partnership with Ahsan still needs to gain valuable points for Olympics seeding), Mohd Ahsan, Rian Agung Saputro, and Angga Pratama
    Agree... I have overlooked the necessity of Bona to be included in the team to gain point for Olympic seeding. Thanks for the info.

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    What happened to Ahsan/ Bona defeated by unseed MAS pairing in the India SS yesterday? Are they too nervous to gain point for Olyimpic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    I want to see the following players being selected for the Thomas Cup Finals:
    Singles - Simon Santoso, Taufik Hidayat (like it or not, both highest ranked MS players are still needed for experience), Tommy Sugiarto, and Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka or Alamsyah Yunus (again, they are our next highest-ranked players)

    Doubles - Hendra Setiawan, Alvent Yulianto Chandra (both are needed for experience and to spring surprises against teams like Japan and Denmark), Bona Septano (his partnership with Ahsan still needs to gain valuable points for Olympics seeding), Mohd Ahsan, Rian Agung Saputro, and Angga Pratama

    Leave Kidho at home to do quality parenting ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sen View Post
    Leave Kidho at home to do quality parenting ?
    That was not a bad idea at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdpanther View Post
    Oh, and if there's a person whom I want to be the head of PBSI, it is Taufik.
    No. Taufik is not an 'organization' person... He will make an erratic head of PBSI. He is a good critic, but not necessarily a good manager.

    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    That was not a bad idea at all
    Hehehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    No. Taufik is not an 'organization' person... He will make an erratic head of PBSI. He is a good critic, but not necessarily a good manager.
    Agree with the above. If being proposed to lead PBSI, i am quite certain, TH will decline with his soft spoken skill as always

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    Notional point with Ahsan/hendra setiawan can be higher than Angga/Rian....more likely PBSI will field Ahsan/Bona, Hendra S/Kido and Rian Angga....the reason is if they field Alvent, they have the agreement that AG will be included....Kido/Hendra S is still not bad

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    In that case, they should go for Bona/Ahsan, Kido/Hendra, and Angga/Rian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisna View Post
    No. Taufik is not an 'organization' person... He will make an erratic head of PBSI. He is a good critic, but not necessarily a good manager.
    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    Agree with the above. If being proposed to lead PBSI, i am quite certain, TH will decline with his soft spoken skill as always
    *sigh* No one got the sarcasm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Licin View Post
    If PBSI allow players to concentrate more than 1 department, PBSI might end up with lesser players, hence more fund per player to send them for a competition abroad.

    On the other hand, by regulating players to concentrate fully in 1 department, PBSI might end up with larger pool of players and lesser budget per player for competition abroad. However, by allowing players to compete in 1 department only will make the player more focus on their goal thus they become more specialized in 1 department & start producing good result supposedly.

    PBSI is the governing body for Indonesia Badminton, i hope they understand the players very well & put Regaining back Indonesia glory at badminton as a number one Goal.
    This idea of letting junior players to play in 2 or more departments sounds fine and dandy.... provided they have enough gas tank for the task. I mean... come on, how often do you see our players able to win three 3-games matches in a row?
    But if our players can endure that spartan, no-nonsense physical training a la Korea, Japan, or China... that's another story.

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    This was the reason given by Rian Agung Saputro for the defeat against Jongjit/Issara:
    "Pasangan Thailand tampil lebih baik, mereka sangat cepat. Selain itu stamina kami juga menurun karena sebelumnya bermain tiga game melawan pasangan China dan Malaysia. Hari ini kami juga tidak pada penampilan terbaik kami dan banyak melakukan kesalahan sendiri."

    This is what I would call an acceptable excuse. At least he admitted that they were not playing well and made lots of errors due to the energy-sapping rubber-sets matches they had to play in R16 & QF. The Thai pair was faster and at their top form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    This was the reason given by Rian Agung Saputro for the defeat against Jongjit/Issara:
    "Pasangan Thailand tampil lebih baik, mereka sangat cepat. Selain itu stamina kami juga menurun karena sebelumnya bermain tiga game melawan pasangan China dan Malaysia. Hari ini kami juga tidak pada penampilan terbaik kami dan banyak melakukan kesalahan sendiri."

    This is what I would call an acceptable excuse. At least he admitted that they were not playing well and made lots of errors due to the energy-sapping rubber-sets matches they had to play in R16 & QF. The Thai pair was faster and at their top form.
    Rian/Angga also made a lot of unforced errors as well during quarter final match against KKK/TBH especially on 2nd set, but somehow at the deciding game they are able to gain back their momentum & win the match. However while facing Thai Duo, they also make a lot of unforced errors, however this time, they can't gain back their momentum & lost the match. They need to improve on their stamina & increase the pace of the game. Nonetheless Issara/Jongjit are in their best form on the India SS 2012, they dominate the front as well as back court & more importantly they made lesser unforced errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Notional point with Ahsan/hendra setiawan can be higher than Angga/Rian....more likely PBSI will field Ahsan/Bona, Hendra S/Kido and Rian Angga....the reason is if they field Alvent, they have the agreement that AG will be included....Kido/Hendra S is still not bad
    Thanks for the info, Hauge. I do not know about the agreement. I agree that Hendra/Kido are not bad either, just that i feel that we need the element of surprise to beat CHN or KOR doubles, & in my opinion Hendra/Ahsan is the safest option.

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    I have just read up this news ...

    http://www.antaranews.com/berita/308...sih-dirindukan

    glad to hear that mia want to be coach (in Indonesia)
    and rivalry zhang ning vs mia audina will be continue, but as coach

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    Thomas cup ( more likely, not official yet)MS:Simon,Taufik,Hayom and TommyMD: Alvent/Angga,Bona/Ahsanand Kido/Hendra.Swhile Uber cup teamnot official yet)WS : Febe,FirdamLindaweny and ApriliaWD:Suci/Della,Nitya/Feinya,Greysia/Meiliana

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