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    Quote Originally Posted by miksss View Post
    let's see who will get sent to OG, Firda or Febe.
    Still chance for Firda? Looking her rank is hard to qualify..

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvina View Post
    Still chance for Firda? Looking her rank is hard to qualify..
    ina got 1 spot in WS... and PBSI will choose who will represent INA in Olympic....
    rumor said that firda will fill this spot... but only rumor...

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    HARD Slap in the face of PBSI made by Richard Mainaky: Tolyn's Success is without PBSI Support
    (http://www.tempo.co/read/news/2012/0...-Dukungan-PBSI)
    Ouch, i think this is the sharpest critics toward PBSI lately, that richard considered PBSI contribute ZERO to the success of Tolyn (XD team). If this being said by someone outside or someone not success maybe it still be debatable. But, coming from Richard, i believe this show SERIOUS PROBLEM with PBSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jks_niceguy View Post
    HARD Slap in the face of PBSI made by Richard Mainaky: Tolyn's Success is without PBSI Support
    (http://www.tempo.co/read/news/2012/0...-Dukungan-PBSI)
    Ouch, i think this is the sharpest critics toward PBSI lately, that richard considered PBSI contribute ZERO to the success of Tolyn (XD team). If this being said by someone outside or someone not success maybe it still be debatable. But, coming from Richard, i believe this show SERIOUS PROBLEM with PBSI.
    What Richard said it is correct...under Djoko' adminitration, Fuad from Logistic and M.Ferryansyah ( from nowhere) but a lot to say in Binpres so Mr.Hadi Nasri and Waketu Mr.Sabar which he supervises on training department HAS NO SAY and these to ( Fuad and Ferry) which do not even knw the rules of Badminton intervenes and they do make decision where and which players to go to tournaments...
    Especially Ferry who brought Li Mao and considers himself like GURU and VERY VERY DAMN ARROGANT...even he yelled at INA coaches during Thomas -Uber qualification for the rules he even did not know...
    Thats why PBSI so screwed up!! how come on earth person like Ferry has no position in PBSI ( as far as I know, even he is given as Staff Ahli,it makes me puke as he is no badminton knowledge at all)...
    Basically these 2 dominated PBSI RIGHT now....these 2 has to go for sure..
    Even Ferry's son had a chance to train, sleep and eat at Pelatnas...whats the FCUK!!!!who the hell he thinks he is!! so Pelatnas has no value and glamour, his son even got his friend, a rapper wanna be to stay and play there too....even his son has no manner during his stay...thats ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ..I even sound so emotional..I have not seen Rudi Hartono and others were so emotional and upset during Conferense @ Century hotel.....
    No more to say!! THIS IS WORST PBSI MANAGEMENT WE HAVE EVER SEEN!!!

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    hm..so many typo....wkwkwkwk...

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    Don't get too emotional bro! PBSI, like BAM, is full of these ppl. Sad to say but Pak Djoko has to bear most of the responsibility for all these problems.

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    Some guy even commented that INA & MAS might have to be contented as no 5 and no 6 as these are primarily caused by our genes.

    I sure hope that is not the case. Surely not with the talents that we have seen emerging from the clubs.

    The problem is how to harness these talents into potential world-beater. The current administration at PBSI surely will not be able to transform our talented pool of players.

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    These comments by Richard Mainaky really nailed the problem happening in PBSI right now....too many ppl who are just not suited to run PBSI's various departments:
    “Para pengurus khususnya bidang pembinaan dan prestasi juga tak lagi menunjukkan fungsinya untuk mendukung proses pembinaan dan pelatihan. Bidang-bidang lain yang tidak terkait bidang pembinaan dan prestasi seringkali mencampuri urusan bidang binpres. “Saya berharap bidang binpres dikembalikan fungsinya. Mereka harus dipercaya penuh,” kata Richard.

    Menurut Richard, bidang pembinaan dan prestasi PBSI sudah tidak melakukan evaluasi dalam enam bulan terakhir. Padahal evaluasi penting dilakukan untuk mengukur perkembangan pelatihan. Selain itu, pengurus jarang sekali tidak mengindahkan usulan kebijakan mengenai pembinaan dan pelatihan dari pelatih.”

    Who the heck is Ferry and Fuad anyway....and why Pak Djoko trusted them so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    These comments by Richard Mainaky really nailed the problem happening in PBSI right now....too many ppl who are just not suited to run PBSI's various departments:
    “Para pengurus khususnya bidang pembinaan dan prestasi juga tak lagi menunjukkan fungsinya untuk mendukung proses pembinaan dan pelatihan. Bidang-bidang lain yang tidak terkait bidang pembinaan dan prestasi seringkali mencampuri urusan bidang binpres. “Saya berharap bidang binpres dikembalikan fungsinya. Mereka harus dipercaya penuh,” kata Richard.

    Menurut Richard, bidang pembinaan dan prestasi PBSI sudah tidak melakukan evaluasi dalam enam bulan terakhir. Padahal evaluasi penting dilakukan untuk mengukur perkembangan pelatihan. Selain itu, pengurus jarang sekali tidak mengindahkan usulan kebijakan mengenai pembinaan dan pelatihan dari pelatih.”

    Who the heck is Ferry and Fuad anyway....and why Pak Djoko trusted them so much?
    Ferry supplied things to Joko when he was a army General so Ferry hires Li Mao as a courtesy to Joko...Fuad's father used to help Joko in his career..here go you...McDonald's Happy meal combo!....you cant separate any of them...If Joko stays then these 2 will stay as WAKETUM!! that would be a REAL nightmare!!!I do hope that they have shameness!!if not!! Bye Bye INA badminton, I can guarantee you that!if tha happens..all club owner should be united and pull out their players from PBSI...
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    I agree. I hope Pak Djoko can accept the responsibility and resigns. That will enable PBSI to get rid of Ferry and Fuad. Or at least some ppl can talk sense to Pak Djoko of all the negative consequences that these 2 guys have brought into PBSI.

    There needs to be a radical reform as what cobalt mentioned in the other thread on BAM. Without a radical reform, we are guaranteed that PBSI will continue to regress.

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    "Saya akan selesaikan sesuai jadwal," tegasnya seperti dilaporkan wartawan Media Indonesia Denny P Sinaga dari Wuhan, China, Kamis (24/5).

    Kegagalan ini membuat manajer M Feriansyah mesti meminta maaf. "Anda sudah lihat sendiri kita sudah maksimal. Persaingan di sini, seperti sudah diperkirakan akan sangat ketat. Apalagi jelang Olimpiade. Kami minta maaf kalau kali ini gagal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by fathonezic View Post
    ina got 1 spot in WS... and PBSI will choose who will represent INA in Olympic....
    rumor said that firda will fill this spot... but only rumor...
    Owh I see, thanks for that explanation

    Yes, prefer Firda than Febe. Impressed Firda performs in TUC last week..

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    Legends urge PBSI to be more responsible over the failure



    Twenty Indonesian shuttler heroes and heroines expressed their sadness on Monday over the team’s worst ever failure in the recent Thomas and Uber Cup, demanding that the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) act to save badminton in Indonesia.

    “The failure was really shocking and obviously disappointed most Indonesians, including former shuttlers like ourselves. It is hard to admit that Indonesia, which used to be a superior country [in badminton], has fallen this low,” said former shuttler Joko Supriyanto at a media gathering in the Hotel Atlet Century in Central Jakarta on Monday.

    The Indonesian Thomas Cup team failed to reach the event’s semifinals for the first time ever in the team’s history last week, after losing 3-0 to Japan in the Thomas and Uber Cup 2012 in Wuhan, China. Unfortunately, the Uber Cup team also experienced the same shocking defeat.

    “Amid such a situation, we urge the PBSI to be more responsible by conducting a serious evaluation of the failure and announce the results of the evaluation to the public.

    “We believe that poor preparation mostly played a part in the Indonesian team’s loss. Therefore, we request the PBSI fix its unfavorable system used to manage Indonesian badminton … PBSI has produced improper policies because of not having ‘the right man in the right place’,” added Joko, who has helped the nation win three consecutive Thomas Cup titles in 1994, 1996 and 1998.

    Joko further added that the former Indonesian shuttlers’ community also urged the PBSI to evaluate the overall performance of foreign coach Li Mao of China following his unfruitful touch to the nation’s singles shuttlers.

    “Indonesian badminton will face tougher challenges in the future. Therefore, we are suggesting that all Indonesian badminton officials appoint a better leader, who can creatively answer those challenges, in November’s chief election,” he said.

    Legend Rudy Hartono said that the gathering, organized spontaneously by the former shuttlers, was “part of our efforts to help fix the broken Indonesian badminton team”.

    “I really hope that [Indonesian badminton] can still survive … but by having this kind of situation, I truly think that the end is near,” said Rudy, who led the nation in winning four consecutive Thomas Cup titles in 1970, 1973, 1976 and 1979.

    Former shuttler Ivana Lie said that she would immediately deliver the results of Monday’s gathering
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    “Afterward, we plan to take the issue to the House of Representatives’ Commission X on youth affairs and sports, as well as to the Youth and Sports Ministry,” said the 1982’s Asian Games gold medalist, who is currently a member of ministerial staff.

    Besides the three heroes and heroines, other former shuttlers who attended Monday’s meeting included three-time All England champion in men’s singles Lim Swie King and Barcelona Olympians Susi Susanti in women’s singles and Alan Budikusuma in men’s singles.


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    omg... bad future for us

    what is pak joko's response on our fail at thomas/uber ??
    and what is his response on many protest out there ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by miksss View Post
    "Saya akan selesaikan sesuai jadwal," tegasnya seperti dilaporkan wartawan Media Indonesia Denny P Sinaga dari Wuhan, China, Kamis (24/5).

    Kegagalan ini membuat manajer M Feriansyah mesti meminta maaf. "Anda sudah lihat sendiri kita sudah maksimal. Persaingan di sini, seperti sudah diperkirakan akan sangat ketat. Apalagi jelang Olimpiade. Kami minta maaf kalau kali ini gagal."

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    only asking for forgiveness ????
    omg, what kind of people are they ??
    stone heart !!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Mantan-Mantan Pemain Nasional Serukan 7 Tuntutan pada PBSI

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    - Hasil buruk tim Indonesia di Thomas-Uber di Wuhan, China, memaksa sejumlah mantan dan pemain bulutangkis berkumpul. Mereka mengeluarkan tujuh tuntutan kepada PB. PBSI.

    Bertempat di Hotel Century, Jakarta, Senin (28/5/2012) para mantan atlet dan atlet lintas generasi itu melakukan pertemuan yang dihadiri oleh Rudi Hartono, Liem Swe King, Icuk Sugiarto, Alan Budikusuma, Susi Susanti, Ivana Lie, Joko Supriyanto, Christian Hadinata, Richard Mainaky, Trikus Harjanto, Marvel Mainaky, Luluk Hadianto, Bambang Supriyanto, Sarwendah Kusumawardani, Imelda Wiguna, Retno Kustia, Elizabeth Latief, Ratih Kumaladani, Lani Teo, Haryanto Arbi dan Taufik Hidayat.


    Tujuh butir untutan mereka yang ditunjukan kepada PB. PBSI adalah sebagai berikut:

    1. Menuntut PB. PBSI bertanggung jawab dengan mengevaluasi secara serius dan menyeluruh penyebab kegagalan tersebut. Disertai dengan langkah-langkah kongkret dan disampaikan ke publik.

    2. Berbagai evaluasi para pengamat atas kegagalan tim Thomas/Uber kita seperti ketidakkompakan tim, tidak ada motivasi, kalah fisik dan sebagainya, adalah akibat buruknya persiapan. Hal ini terjadi karena adanya masalah besar di tubuh kepengurusan PB. PBSI, yaitu terjadinya tumpang tindih (
    overlapping
    ) kewenangan yang telah lama terjadi dan dibiarkan terus terjadi. Sehingga banyak kebijakan PB. PBSI yang tidak tepat karena dilakukan oleh orang yang bukan berada dalam kewenangannya.

    3. Dalam masa waktu kepengurusan yang tersisa, kami mendesak PB. PBSI untuk mengembalikan kewenangan setiap bidang sesuai tugas pokok, dan fungsinya dan fokus mempersiapkan atlet untuk Olimpiade London dengan sebaik-baiknya.

    4. Meminta kepada PB. PBSI untuk meninjau ulang keberadaan pelatih asing di pelatnas. Sudah hampir dua tahun keberadaannya tetapi tidak terlihat adanya perkembangan prestasi sesuai yang diharapkan. Bahkan keberadaannya cenderung merusak sistem yang ada.

    5. Dengan semakin terpuruknya prestasi bulutangkis kita, tantangan perbulutangkisan ke depan semakin berat. Karena itu kami menghimbau kepada pengurus PBSI provinsi sebagai pemilik suara dalam musyawarah nasional November mendatang, mencari figur ketua umum yang dapat menjawab tantangan dan melakukan terobosan-terobosan yang kreatif.

    6. Kami menghimbau Dewan Pengawas lebih aktif menjalankan tugasnya dan berperan aktif mengkritisi kinerja PBSI pusat dan daerah demi kemajuan prestasi bulutangkis Indonesia.

    7. Dalam kesempatan ini kami juga menghimbau kepada Bapak Presiden, Pemerintah dan Komisi X DPR untuk lebih memperhatikan olahraga bulutangkis. Agar prestasi bulutangkis Indonesia bisa kembali berjaya dan menjadi parfum bangsa Indonesia yang semerbak wangi ke seantero dunia.

    Tim Indonesia tersingkir di babak perempatfinal baik di Piala Thomas dan Uber 2012. Khusus buat tim putra, baru kali ini sepanjang sejarah keikutsertaannya, pasukan "Merah Putih" tak mampu menembus babak empat besar.

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    the google translate is:

    Ex National Players call for 7 Claim on PBSI


    Jakarta - The worst team in the Thomas-Uber Indonesia in Wuhan, China, forcing a number of former and badminton players gathered. They issued seven demands to the PB. PBSI.


    Located at the Century Hotel, Jakarta, Monday (5/28/2012) The ex-athletes and athletes across the generations was a meeting attended by Rudi Hartono, Liem Swe King, Icuk Sugiarto, Alan Budikusuma, Susi Susanti, Ivana Lie, Joko Supriyanto, Christian Hadinata, Richard Mainaky, Trikus Harjanto, Marvel Mainaky, Luluk Hadianto, Bambang Supriyanto, Sarwendah Kusumawadini, Imelda Wiguna, Retno Kustia, Elizabeth Latif, Ratih Kumaladani, Lani Teo, Haryanto Arbi and Taufik Hidayat.


    Seven items addressed to their untutan PB. PBSI is as follows:


    A. PB demanding. PBSI liable to be seriously and thoroughly evaluate the cause of the failure. Accompanied by concrete steps and delivered to the public.


    2. Various observers for failure evaluation team Thomas / Uber Cup team ketidakkompakan we like, no motivation, less physical and so on, is due to poor preparation. This occurs because of the big problems in the management body of PB. PBSI, the occurrence of overlapping (overlapping) authority that has long occurred and allowed to continue. So many PB policy. PBSI is not appropriate because it is done by people who are not within its authority.


    3. In the remaining period of stewardship, we urge the PB. PBSI to restore the authority of each field according to the main tasks, and functions and focus on preparing athletes for the London Olympics as well as possible.


    4. Asked the PB. PBSI to review the presence of foreign coaches in the national training. It has been almost two years of its existence but not seen any progress as expected achievement. Even its existence tends to undermine the existing system.


    5. With the decline of our badminton achievements, challenges ahead perbulutangkisan heavier. We therefore urge the board PBSI voters in the province as a national consultation in November, look for the chairman of the figures that can address challenges and make the creative breakthroughs.


    6. We urge the Board of Trustees more actively carry out their duties and play an active role to criticize the performance of central and local PBSI achievement for the advancement of Indonesian badminton.


    7. On this occasion we also appeal to the President, Government and the Commission of the House for more attention to the sport of badminton. In order for Indonesia badminton achievement can be returned victorious and became the nation of Indonesia perfume scented fragrance all over the world.


    Indonesia team was eliminated in the quarterfinals in both the Thomas and Uber Cup 2012. Specifically for men's team, only this time in the history of its participation, the troops "Red and White" was unable to penetrate the last four
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    Jika Tuntutannya Tak Ditanggapi, Mantan-mantan Pebulutangkis Akan Mengadu ke DPR



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    - Mantan-mantan pebulutangkis Indonesia serius mengkritisi kepengurusan PB. PBSI. Jika tuntutan kepada PBSI tak digubris, mereka akan membawa masalah ini ke Komisi X DPR.
    Sejumlah mantan pemain nasional melakukan urun rembuk di Hotel Atlet Century, Jakarta, Senin (28/5/2012). Mereka kemudian menelurkan
    tujuh
    tuntutannya kepada PB. PBSI.

    Menurut Ivana Lie, tuntutan tersebut sebagai bentuk gerakan untuk memperbaiki bulutangkis di Indonesia. Ini mengingat hasil buruk yang didapat tim Indonesia di Piala Thomas-Uber 2012.

    ''Ini adalah bentuk gerakan kami demi bulutangkis. Kami akan rangkum hasil pertemuan ini. Ke PBSI dan Kemenpora,'' ujarnya.

    Ivana menambahkan, dia dan rekan-rekannya lainnya memberi waktu kepada pengurus PB. PBSI untuk menanggapi tuntutan tersebut. Jika tidak, mereka akan mengandukan masalah ini ke DPR.

    ''Kami minta PBSI menanggapi tuntutan kami. Secepat mungkin. Kalau tidak ada tanggapan, kami seterusnya akan ke DPR Komisi X yang di mana bertanggung jawab juga di olahraga. Bulutangkis sudah menjadi milik bangsa Indonesia. Ini jadi sebuah keprihatinan semua. Kami juga menghimbau, agar pemerintah lebih memperharikan bulutangkis,'' ungkap dia.

    ''Saya berharap berharap PBSI untuk mau mendengarkan dan lakukan perbaikan. Ini bukan kemauan pribadi saya. Ini lebih kepada spontan karena keprihatinan kami,'' tambahnya.

    ''Kami semua akan segera bertemu dengan pihak Komisi X DPR untuk meminta jalan keluar. Serta menuntut ketua umum PBSI untuk bertanggung jawab,'' timpal Rosiana Tendean.

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    the google translate is :

    Jakarta - Indonesia ex shuttlers seriously critize on PBSI. If the demands of the PBSI was ignored, they will bring this issue to the Commission X DPR.


    A number of former national players to con consultation at Hotel Atlet Century, Jakarta, Monday (05/28/2012). They then spawn seven demands to the PB. PBSI.


    According to Ivana Lie, these demands as a form of movement to improve badminton in Indonesia. Is considering the poor results obtained Indonesia in Thomas Cup team-Uber 2012.


    '' This is a form of our movement for the sake of badminton. We will summarize the results of this meeting. To the PBSI and Kemenpora,'' he said.


    Ivana adds, he and other colleagues to give time to the PB board. PBSI to respond to these demands. If not, they will mengandukan the matter to Parliament.


    '' We ask PBSI respond to our demands. As soon as possible. If no response, so we are going to the Committee X DPR in which is also responsible for the sport. Badminton has become the property of Indonesia. It's become a concern of all. We also urge, that the government is more memperharikan badminton,'' he said.


    '' I hope hope PBSI to listen and do the repairs. This is not my own volition. This is more spontaneous because of our concerns,'' he added.


    '' We all will soon meet with the Commission X DPR to ask for a way out. And demanded the chairman of the PBSI to be responsible,'' said Rosiana Tendean

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